Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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I just deleted several comments I was making because I stopped to think about how my message was going to be taken. I we were taking on a phone or discussing this face to face you would see my level of agreement with your statements but at the same time be able to see I know, for me, it is just a simply a need to comply with the regulations.
In 1992 I was in a large ballroom at the refrigeration and air conditioning industry convention and show in Anaheim, California. I remember well some of the questions and answer given in that conference. How long before we will be able to see a reduction in the hole in the Ozone layer. The answer from the EPA was was "20 years"! The EPA spokeswomen responded to another question, If new refrigerants that were coming out do not have chlorine in them, would we still have to recover and dispose of them as R12 and R22 and the others? Her response was "yes". There was a followup question, "why". Her answer was: You have to understand, there is are a lot of of new businesses that that has have created for all of the equipment, tanks, transporting, recycling and incinerating contaminated refrigerant, we just can't shut those industries down. 2 years later I am reading a article in the Cincinnati Enquirer during my lunch break and saw a article titled, Hole in Ozone aver Antarctica Getting Smaller, in that article the comment from Deborah Ottinger, from the EPA, was that it was evidence that the Clean Air Act and regulations the EPA has introduced is making a difference. That was after she had said 2 years earlier it was going to take 20 years to see an effect. Michael Labanz The "Good Guy" Good Guys Air Conditioning Some points well taken, but in a larger context it's all beside the point, which is the quack-science bill-of-goods we've all been sold because of "ozone depletion". |
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Response to Back9
Love to watch Scotty!!
I agree! What a joke! Quote:
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Thank you for your honestly you are a gift to all of us. My hubby is also an heating/air conditioning person
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Thanks for the video
I watched the video and have a few comments
REMEMBER: HARDLY ANY CUSTOMERS ASK TO RETROFIT THERE SYSTEM WITH A DIFFERENT REFRIGERANT (MAYBE 1 IN 500) The term "drop in refrigerant" is not correct. There are no drop in refrigerants for R22 in the US. There was for R12 but not R22. The term means that you can just add what is needed to the existing refrigerant to get the system fully charged. 100 to 200 dollars for a pound of R22? I currently charge 79 per pound. He mentions 20-30 years ago we charge 10 per pound. That was when a tank of R22 was $50. Now that it is 500 or sometimes 800 per tank doesn't mean you charge 10 or 20 times as much. Most of the cost of what we charge is the labor to install it. He mentions of loss of efficiency. When I do a maintenace on the system I always use a computerized instuments that verifies the correct air flow, refrigerant charge and measures the exact BTU output. On alternative refrigerants I have tested the BTUS go from, as an example 36,000 BTU's to 35,400 BTU's. The standard is on a system is to be within 10% of the rated BTU's. the actual will fluctuate based on conditions inside and outside. He mentions you have to use a piston coil. He installs Goodman which is the keast espensive systems which do not have the depth of choices that Carrier branded (Carrier, Bryant, Payne, Heil) have. Mike Why I'm not going to use R22 (Freon) replacements - YouTube .[/QUOTE] |
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Back9 Back off,
Back 9,
Did you read the text? I AM AGREEING WITH YOU! Not arguing with you! Those comments were the excuses the EPA gave to the HVAC industry, It is not my words Please don't leave that comment up. Mike Quote:
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Thanks for taking the time to explain this.
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Ok.
Just needed clarification. |
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I removed.
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Thanks. I appreciate it.
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Yes, Scott Kilmer is single-handedly changing the auto industry, it looks.
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