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johndamelio 11-20-2010 02:08 PM

Why is it that they need donations ??
Other medical facilities purchase them on their own. Why is Moffitt different ?

Number 6 11-20-2010 02:26 PM

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Why is it that they need donations ??
Other medical facilities purchase them on their own. Why is Moffitt different ?
You got it!! Here is the answer. The project would never have been done without The Villages stepping up to buy the equipment. CFHA would only have done the Leesburg center except they got an offer that they couldn't refuse. Only thing is the residents of The Villages were never told of that. Without the equipment, this business venture makes no sense. Two PET/CTs, for instance, is way overkill. I will bet anything that the financial feasibility study does not support two centers.

Anyway, answer this one simple question. Where is the money coming from to equip the Leesburg center? The answer should telll you what is happening.

Russ_Boston 11-20-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 6 (Post 310094)
Anyway, answer this one simple question. Where is the money coming from to equip the Leesburg center? The answer should telll you what is happening.

Don't just ask the question - please answer it if you have some info.

Still fail to see why a not for profit medical center asking for donations is any point of discussion for us. There are literally hundreds of medical centers in the USA that survive based on community support. Don't contribute if you don't want to, it is that simple.

Now, if you can show how this will negatively impact those of us that don't contribute I'd be willing to lend an ear.

For those of you that are somehow against the idea of a multi-faceted cancer center coming to TV please explain why you are against it and how you (assuming you don't contribute) are harmed in any way when/if they do.

This is a really bad debate.

same 11-21-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 310114)
Don't just ask the question - please answer it if you have some info.

Still fail to see why a not for profit medical center asking for donations is any point of discussion for us. There are literally hundreds of medical centers in the USA that survive based on community support. Don't contribute if you don't want to, it is that simple.

Now, if you can show how this will negatively impact those of us that don't contribute I'd be willing to lend an ear.

For those of you that are somehow against the idea of a multi-faceted cancer center coming to TV please explain why you are against it and how you (assuming you don't contribute) are harmed in any way when/if they do.

This is a really bad debate.

What is a "multi-faceted cancer center"? How is different from what is here now?

Russ_Boston 11-21-2010 11:12 AM

All I can say is: http://www.moffitt.org/

It is different since it was ranked #19 in the country in the treatment of cancer and the best in Florida. And who cares it if is different?

Did you say the same when WalMart came in with Target already here?

Did you say the same when Red Lobster came in with Bonefish already here?

Who cares if there is competition? Unless of course you have a vested interest in the other centers.

I still ask the question that nobody has answered: What's the problem with Moffitt coming to TV?

Avista 11-21-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by same (Post 310298)
What is a "multi-faceted cancer center"? How is different from what is here now?

Moffitt uses a interdisciplinary approach. This means you are treated by a team of doctors of varied disciplines. As I said, I was treated 7 years ago at Moffitt. My team consisted of my surgeon, radiation oncologist, oncologist, and pathologist. I can't begin to say how important your pathologist is. Also, I did not need reconstruction, but if reconstruction is needed, you will have plastic surgeon on your team.

Does this help anyone. Your team is in one place and they can meet and discuss your condition.

Chi-Town 11-21-2010 12:23 PM

Basic facts
 
The following two links are from the Moffitt web site:

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/...6/daily47.html

http://www.dailycommercial.com/local...073010Moffitt-

Moffitt is not building the cancer care centers. Two developers are, The Villages developer for here and an unnamed developer for the one at the Leesburg Regional Medical Center. The cancer centers will be leased to Central Florida Health Alliance which includes the Villages Health System Hospital and LRMC.

Larry Wilson 11-21-2010 01:05 PM

The Sad Part
 
The sad part is taking away Relay for Life in the Villages so they can get more donations for Moffitt.

Russ_Boston 11-21-2010 02:23 PM

I still see it scheduled for April 29 at the High School.

What did TV take away?

Just looking for info.

Number 6 11-21-2010 02:48 PM

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Don't just ask the question - please answer it if you have some info.

Still fail to see why a not for profit medical center asking for donations is any point of discussion for us. There are literally hundreds of medical centers in the USA that survive based on community support. Don't contribute if you don't want to, it is that simple.
Perhaps I am not making myself clear. Let's try it from this direction. Why is it necessary to fund the equipment by donation for the Villages center and not for the Leesburg center?

It is becuase the Villages center would never be built without it. I have no objection to the center being built, but think the Devleoper has not been totaly forthcomming about the deal stuck to get the center done. He volunteered that the residents would buy the equipment. Nice. Now I am just repeating myself. Sorry.

Whalen 11-21-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 310359)
I still see it scheduled for April 29 at the High School.

What did TV take away?

Just looking for info.


Russ,

Where have you been?
Actually I was suprised when you didn't weigh in on the matter.

http://https://www.talkofthevillages...ad.php?t=33642

Can't seem to get the link to work.
Please see F16's thread :Relay for Life @TVHS

Whalen

Whalen 11-21-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 310321)
The following two links are from the Moffitt web site:

http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/...6/daily47.html

http://www.dailycommercial.com/local...073010Moffitt-

Moffitt is not building the cancer care centers. Two developers are, The Villages developer for here and an unnamed developer for the one at the Leesburg Regional Medical Center. The cancer centers will be leased to Central Florida Health Alliance which includes the Villages Health System Hospital and LRMC.

Thank you,
Very informative.

Russ_Boston 11-21-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Whalen (Post 310377)
Russ,

Where have you been?
Actually I was suprised when you didn't weigh in on the matter.

http://https://www.talkofthevillages...ad.php?t=33642

Can't seem to get the link to work.
Please see F16's thread :Relay for Life @TVHS

Whalen

Thanks - just read the entire thread. I think there may be something more than just Moffitt going on. But Kathie had a great point about it being two side of the same coin in terms of cancer research and treatment.

I'll take a wait and see on this as to the real cause.

oldguy 11-21-2010 04:44 PM

follow the money!
 
Lets see why people might be doing this.
Developer will build the building
Developer will lease the building
1. Tennant Moffitt will get free donated equipment
2. Tennant Moffitt will pay rent to the Developer
3. Tennant Moffitt will have a business Advantage over Other Competition of
over $1400.00 per day($2,200,000@7%/5 year amortization)
Other providers will face unfair competion, and possibly Close because of the equipment debt they have to pay for.
4. Other doctors will relocate to this building and lease space.
5. Newspaper will donate space to the fund raising.
My question is...Was any space donated to the current providers?
6. Moffitt Cancer Center is a great item to mention to prospective buyers and serve to sell more houses.

What does this all mean....Less competition, fully leased new facility owned by the developer, more houses sold, and your ability to participate in a business plan that you pay into from the start of your retirement to your mortal illness to the grave....ie; buy a single family house $$$$, Village sells your house $$$$$, you move into assisted living $$$$, then use all the medical facilities $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, then die!
Just my take on it...

bike42 11-21-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oldguy (Post 310399)
Lets see why people might be doing this.
Developer will build the building
Developer will lease the building
1. Tennant Moffitt will get free donated equipment
2. Tennant Moffitt will pay rent to the Developer
3. Tennant Moffitt will have a business Advantage over Other Competition of
over $1400.00 per day($2,200,000@7%/5 year amortization)
Other providers will face unfair competion, and possibly Close because of the equipment debt they have to pay for.
4. Other doctors will relocate to this building and lease space.
5. Newspaper will donate space to the fund raising.
My question is...Was any space donated to the current providers?
6. Moffitt Cancer Center is a great item to mention to prospective buyers and serve to sell more houses.

What does this all mean....Less competition, fully leased new facility owned by the developer, more houses sold, and your ability to participate in a business plan that you pay into from the start of your retirement to your mortal illness to the grave....ie; buy a single family house $$$$, Village sells your house $$$$$, you move into assisted living $$$$, then use all the medical facilities $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, then die!
Just my take on it...

Then why on earth are you here?


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