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eyc234 04-10-2025 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2422596)
See # 148

And that proves what? Just cause you say it does not make it true.

eyc234 04-10-2025 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2422776)
TV could install a card reader at the gate that will unlock once the ID card is approved. The gate would need to be locked all the time.

You going to pay for all of them. Do not look to most people to pay for something that is not really needed.

Altavia 04-13-2025 05:46 PM

From the District Weekly Bulletin April 10, 2025

https://www.districtgov.org/wp-conte...ition-15-2.pdf

And the:

Community Amenities: Facts About, April 8, 2025

Recent discussions within our community have raised questions about the use and protection of the amenity system in The Villages. To ensure everyone has accurate information, we’d like to remind residents about our established access policies.

See:

Community Amenities: Facts About Access and Usage - The Villages Community Development Districts


Guest & Resident ID Info

https://www.districtgov.org/wp-conte...25-1619669.pdf

HappyTraveler 04-17-2025 10:25 AM

Rest assured...
 
For any who want the bottom line details about the recent info provided by District Gov, here it is:

From October 2024 through February 2025, 1,026,767 IDs were checked, and 159,374 guest passes were issued. Only 168 instances (less than 1%) of guest ID non-compliance were recorded, with 514 instances (less than 1%) of residents without IDs.

Bill14564 04-17-2025 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyTraveler (Post 2425186)
For any who want the bottom line details about the recent info provided by District Gov, here it is:

From October 2024 through February 2025, 1,026,767 IDs were checked, and 159,374 guest passes were issued. Only 168 instances (less than 1%) of guest ID non-compliance were recorded, with 514 instances (less than 1%) of residents without IDs.

Statistics.....

It would be nice to know how many of those ID checks were at the 100ish neighborhood and family pools where most of the concerns are coming from. If all of them were, then that amounts to about 65 checks at EVERY pool EVERY day. I doubt 65 people per day come to the two pools in my area COMBINED. Maybe there are neighborhood pools that had many more people use them in December and January.

If those checks include checks at events at the rec centers then I know I account for at least 14 of them but I didn't go to a pool at all during that time.

What is a "guest ID non-compliance"? Is that a bonafide guest who was not issued a pass, a guest who was issued a pass but was not carrying it, or a non-guest sneaking into the pool?

I believe there are non-residents sneaking into the pools
I don't believe the pools are being overrun with outsiders
I appreciate seeing numbers that speak to the issue
I don't appreciate feeling the numbers were carefully selected to look good

shut the front door 04-17-2025 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2425202)
Statistics.....

It would be nice to know how many of those ID checks were at the 100ish neighborhood and family pools where most of the concerns are coming from. If all of them then that amounts to about 65 checks at EVERY pool EVERY day. I doubt 65 people per day come to the two pools in my area COMBINED. Maybe there are neighborhood pools that had many more people use them in December and January.

If those checks include checks at events at the rec centers then I know I account for at least 14 of them but I didn't go to a pool at all during that time.

What is a "guest ID non-compliance"? Is that a bonafide guest who was not issued a pass, a guest who was issued a pass but was not carrying it, or a non-guest sneaking into the pool?

I believe there are non-residents sneaking into the pools
I don't believe the pools are being overrun with outsiders
I appreciate seeing numbers that speak to the issue
I don't appreciate feeling the numbers were carefully selected to look good

Well said. That whole "less than 1%" BS that they've been spouting for years means absolutely nothing. They are only taking into account people who WERE checked and didn't have ID. They like to skip over the thousands who NEVER get checked.

thelegges 04-17-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2425212)
Well said. That whole "less than 1%" BS that they've been spouting for years means absolutely nothing. They are only taking into account people who WERE checked and didn't have ID. They like to skip over the thousands who NEVER get checked.

At any time you can request someone to check a pool for the Thousands you are identifying. Complaining won’t get things under control. The family pools at Recreation Centers have an on site employee. Point out the 50 or so that are in violation and have them removed.

Then again it is always fun to tell the territorial older people between the 6’s at the neighborhood pool. “Ya I don’t live in TV, I just like to stop and use the pool”

It’s so fun to see their :rant-rave: face when CW tells them “They have IDs”

HappyTraveler 04-17-2025 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2425202)
Statistics.....

If all of them then that amounts to about 65 checks at EVERY pool EVERY day. I doubt 65 people per day come to the two pools in my area COMBINED.

What is a "guest ID non-compliance"? Is that a bonafide guest who was not issued a pass, a guest who was issued a pass but was not carrying it, or a non-guest sneaking into the pool?

First paragraph makes no sense. Of course, they didn't only check pools.

Second paragraph - Why ask here? Call District Gov if the answer to that interests you.

FloridaGuy66 04-17-2025 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HappyTraveler (Post 2425186)
For any who want the bottom line details about the recent info provided by District Gov, here it is:

From October 2024 through February 2025, 1,026,767 IDs were checked, and 159,374 guest passes were issued. Only 168 instances (less than 1%) of guest ID non-compliance were recorded, with 514 instances (less than 1%) of residents without IDs.

Way less than 1% so that immediately goes into "I don't care" territory for me.

I wish people would focus more on things that actually matter like actual TV residents doing things that they shouldn't be doing, or the developer doing things they shouldn't be doing.

AMB444 04-18-2025 12:27 AM

Good for you if you think the pool use is unimportant to YOUR CDD bill

Well, for some of us that live here our number one priority is the use of the adult pools for keeping our health as many of us can't walk, pickle ball or golf for health.

I think many of you dismiss how important the pools are for those of that can't join in golf and other amenities. We wish we could.

But it's still important to US that the pools maintain villagers only, like you think it's important for golf courses, pickle ball, etc for members only. And we still pay the same CDD as YOU do. Be respectful for those of us that can't enjoy the mainstream amenities. We still pay the $200 like you do.

Full-timer 04-18-2025 04:50 AM

Willing to bet a lot of these people are "friends" of villagers and then you have villager family.
The amount we all pay for the upkeep is high and it will get much worse than this going forward.


Do you notice the higher amount of trash spewed around on the modal paths certain times of the year? That is from family, friends, and snow birds. We pay for that too.

In the end, there isn't much you can do unless you want to pay a lot more and have much more stricter rules placed on residents.

Our answer to these issues is to sell and move out. Then we can be one of "those " people!!

TPO442 04-18-2025 06:05 AM

Everglades
 
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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2420758)
We pay for pickle ball, rec center and pools, etc.


But TV is not checking all that often to make sure they are residents.

What should be done to make sure the $$ we pay each month doesn't pay for these people coming in to free load.


Checking ID's this week

golfing eagles 04-18-2025 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 2425220)
At any time you can request someone to check a pool for the Thousands you are identifying. Complaining won’t get things under control. The family pools at Recreation Centers have an on site employee. Point out the 50 or so that are in violation and have them removed.

Then again it is always fun to tell the territorial older people between the 6’s at the neighborhood pool. “Ya I don’t live in TV, I just like to stop and use the pool”

It’s so fun to see their :rant-rave: face when CW tells them “They have IDs”

So, in other words, it is "fun" to waste the time of the community watch????? While they're checking the ID of a legitimate resident having "fun", how many non-residents are sneaking in and getting away with it?????

golfing eagles 04-18-2025 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AMB444 (Post 2425332)
Good for you if you think the pool use is unimportant to YOUR CDD bill

Well, for some of us that live here our number one priority is the use of the adult pools for keeping our health as many of us can't walk, pickle ball or golf for health.

I think many of you dismiss how important the pools are for those of that can't join in golf and other amenities. We wish we could.

But it's still important to US that the pools maintain villagers only, like you think it's important for golf courses, pickle ball, etc for members only. And we still pay the same CDD as YOU do. Be respectful for those of us that can't enjoy the mainstream amenities. We still pay the $200 like you do.

Below is a sign that I would like to see adapted to all our pools, courts and golf courses, clearly stating the trespassing statute. The statistics cited above are ambiguous, but if they CAUGHT 168 freeloaders in 5 months, we can assume there are many more, and even one is too many. Yes, it would cost a lot to stop them, but I would offer another solution---prosecute those caught to the fullest extent of the law and publicize it area wide. If these trespassers realize that the consequences of taking a dip in our pools significantly outweighs the benefit, the word will get around that we do not tolerate this type of behavior. If they are a minor, prosecute the responsible parents.

Altavia 04-18-2025 10:37 AM

Has anyone brought up the possibility of using wrist bands similar to what the resorts use?


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