[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I heard a rumor yesterday to this effect. Supposedly he wants to put a huge medical complex of some kind over here. I can't imagine needing this much land for a medical complex.
Has anyone else ever heard this rumor?

[graciegirl]

I thought you were going to say that he was buying the older and lower priced homes in order to rebuild newer homes on the lots..I have heard THAT rumor. But your rumor and my rumor might just be..............


wait for it....................


Rumors.

[Bogie Shooter]

What a stretch. Did this rumor start near the busted gate?

[dalecrenshaw]

I think it is a rumor. There is plenty of land elsewhere to put a medical complex and he would never be able to get every homeowner to agree to sell. Some people are just too old to make a move

[redwitch]

I was told he's tried to disenfranchise the historic side for a long time. From rumors I've heard, it doesn't seem to matter what is done to it so long as it isn't considered part of The Villages. Sad if true.

[graciegirl]

I can't think why that would be so. The Historical part is part of The Villages and always will be. There are still some original manufactured homes that are endangered when we have high winds. They could be easily just pulled away and the site cleared to build a more sturdy home. There wasn't a single home available a week or two ago that was less than a hundred thousand dollars which may be the reason for the rumor. Did someone buy the less expensive homes. If so why? (I just checked and there are two that are less than 100k today, but in the 90's.)

The entire place is a legacy that the Morse family will leave to this part of Florida. It is also a first historically in the world. I don't see it as much of a stretch that they would like to leave it completely beautiful and sound. They have changed as they grew and they have remedied many of their mistakes as they have gone along, building cart paths not ON busy streets, building homes better and better. Why shouldn't they want to be sure that their earliest efforts aren't saved and safe?


Please understand that all of my suppositions above are my own RUMOR.

[Buffalo Jim]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I can't think why that would be so. The Historical part is part of The Villages and always will be. There are still some original manufactured homes that are endangered when we have high winds. They could be easily just pulled away and the site cleared to build a more sturdy home. There wasn't a single home available a week or two ago that was less than a hundred thousand dollars which may be the reason for the rumor. Did someone buy the less expensive homes. If so why? (I just checked and there are two that are less than 100k today, but in the 90's.)

The entire place is a legacy that the Morse family will leave to this part of Florida. It is also a first historically in the world. I don't see it as much of a stretch that they would like to leave it completely beautiful and sound. They have changed as they grew and they have remedied many of their mistakes as they have gone along, building cart paths not ON busy streets, building homes better and better. Why shouldn't they want to be sure that their earliest efforts aren't saved and safe?


Please understand that all of my suppositions above are my own RUMOR.

Great post !!!!!!

[Indy-Guy]

There are between 600 and 700 homes in the historical side of The Villages. That would be 600 to 700 separate negations which would be a nightmare.

A couple of years ago there was a mobile home park on the east coast that had a hundred or so plots that a developer wanted to buy. The developer was offering a million dollars or more for each plot but it was all or nothing. There was a lot of people that wanted to sell and there were many that said they didn't care about the money and wouldn't sell for any amount. The deal fell through and as far as I know the mobile home park is still there and it was on the coast.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by Indy-Guy

There are between 600 and 700 homes in the historical side of The Villages. That would be 600 to 700 separate negations which would be a nightmare.

A couple of years ago there was a mobile home park on the east coast that had a hundred or so plots that a developer wanted to buy. The developer was offering a million dollars or more for each plot but it was all or nothing. There was a lot of people that wanted to sell and there were many that said they didn't care about the money and wouldn't sell for any amount. The deal fell through and as far as I know the mobile home park is still there and it was on the coast.

Indy: I didn't go around and count the homes in the historical section but a salesperson told me about a year ago that the number was 4,000.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Indy-Guy

There are between 600 and 700 homes in the historical side of The Villages. That would be 600 to 700 separate negations which would be a nightmare.

A couple of years ago there was a mobile home park on the east coast that had a hundred or so plots that a developer wanted to buy. The developer was offering a million dollars or more for each plot but it was all or nothing. There was a lot of people that wanted to sell and there were many that said they didn't care about the money and wouldn't sell for any amount. The deal fell through and as far as I know the mobile home park is still there and it was on the coast.

The area you speak of has a very desirable water view and he would have tripled his investment easily

[TheVillageChicken]

All good rumors exploit the emotions and sentiments of a group, so lets fuel the fire with the hot button of eminent domain.




Article X, Section 6 of the Florida Constitution restricts the power of condemnation of private property only for a public purpose. A public purpose means that:
•The property must be available to the public in common
•The public interest must dominate the private gain
•The manner of enjoyment or use of the property acquired must be in control of the public

Examples include: parking facilities, recreation facilities, roadways, hospitals, power lines, drainage systems, government buildings, water and sewer projects.

What follows is mischievous fictional musing intended only for entertainment or, OK, I'll admit it...provocation.

How about a scenario where a community, let's call it "Stonecrest," has no "access" to medical facilities and are pleading for relief. A benevolent developer with a big bankroll, unlimited legal resources, and friends in high places, uses "Stonecrest's" dire predicament and the law of eminent domain to buy up a large block of properties which he then repurposes into a behemoth medical cash cow which makes the monies he paid to acquire the properties look like a drop in the bucket.

[justjim]

Morse buying up the Historical District is the "craziest" rumor I've heard on TOTV. Just ain't happening IMSO.

[RErmer]

I so love Graciegirl's take on this! Rumors are just that! I think as retires some of us have a bit too much time on our hands!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

All good rumors exploit the emotions and sentiments of a group, so lets fuel the fire with the hot button of eminent domain.




Article X, Section 6 of the Florida Constitution restricts the power of condemnation of private property only for a public purpose. A public purpose means that:
�The property must be available to the public in common
�The public interest must dominate the private gain
�The manner of enjoyment or use of the property acquired must be in control of the public

Examples include: parking facilities, recreation facilities, roadways, hospitals, power lines, drainage systems, government buildings, water and sewer projects.

What follows is mischievous fictional musing intended only for entertainment or, OK, I'll admit it...provocation.

How about a scenario where a community, let's call it "Stonecrest," has no "access" to medical facilities and are pleading for relief. A benevolent developer with a big bankroll, unlimited legal resources, and friends in high places, uses "Stonecrest's" dire predicament and the law of eminent domain to buy up a large block of properties which he then repurposes into a behemoth medical cash cow which makes the monies he paid to acquire the properties look like a drop in the bucket.

Hmm, is that provocation, or prevarication?

[Bizdoc]

Well, a "medical facility" large enough to require the historic district would be on the order of 20 billion plus. More importantly, it would require a certificate of need. You know how it took so long to get a cert of need for the hospital addition? Try proposing something that large and watch all of the hospitals in Tampa, Orlando, Ocala, Jacksonville, and Gainesville line up to oppose it. Would likely be approved in the 22nd or 23rd centuries.

Everyone thinks that at 130,000 (or whatever number you like), The Villages can support all manner of medical facilities and specialties. The truth is that anything under a population of 10 million is too small for a mega hospital/clinic. No matter how much you wish, it won't happen.