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Normal 06-27-2025 04:34 AM

Traffic Circles
 
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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2441594)
When roundabouts were added to Central Parkway and Marshbend Trail, the 55 mph speed limit was reduced to 35 mph.

The traffic circles added to Central Parkway? There was no Central Parkway! It was created so the developer could slow down traffic and make the area residential. 470 was slight handedly converted over to residential. I guess there was a parallel for a short time. It used to be the throughway to 75. I guess you could say 470 and Central Parkway are one in the same? The county gained a big expense of several traffic circles? The developer got to ease rezoning in for profit?

Worldseries27 06-27-2025 04:44 AM

The squeaky wheel gets squeaked
 
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I thought my idea should have won out

rsmurano 06-27-2025 04:55 AM

I would never want to turn right, stop at the 44 light, then go around the roundabout to head south, stop at the 44 light again, then 15 mins after I turned right on Morse, I’m back to where I was in front of chitty chatty going south, and that would be on a good day without traffic. I’d move before I do this on a daily basis.
Put a light there, smart 1 with vehicle detection so you aren’t at a timed light like all other intersections here. 1 car waiting to turn left, the light would stay red on Morse for 20-30 seconds max.

Normal 06-27-2025 05:05 AM

Route 54 just 10 years ago?
 
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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2441604)
I would never want to turn right, stop at the 44 light, then go around the roundabout to head south, stop at the 44 light again, then 15 mins after I turned right on Morse, I’m back to where I was in front of chitty chatty going south, and that would be on a good day without traffic. I’d move before I do this on a daily basis.
Put a light there, smart 1 with vehicle detection so you aren’t at a timed light like all other intersections here. 1 car waiting to turn left, the light would stay red on Morse for 20-30 seconds max.

I like the idea, but look how the myriad of traffic lights have screwed up highway 54 from route 75 in Wesley Chapel westward. Most take the Newport Richie highway now and have to go down to the Suncoast Highway to get to northern Tampa.

Route 54 is a good lesson in traffic light stops for any highway/civil engineer.

jimkerr 06-27-2025 05:23 AM

This sounds like a good solution. I know residents in Chitty Chatty were concerned with traffic accidents for people making a left turn out of there.

Diane M 06-27-2025 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2441558)
So the consulting firm came up with three options, do nothing, a roundabout, or a directional median opening. Have they ever heard of something called a traffic light?

I agree. Can’t they explore using a traffic light that signals a stop with a sensor?

VillagesDude 06-27-2025 06:56 AM

I wonder if they’ll prohibit u-turns at the fire station so that intersection remains open. That will force persons trying to go southbound up to the circle past 44.

Andyb 06-27-2025 07:07 AM

Traffic
 
They need a back door exit onto Hwy 44 east of Deaton Plaza from the Chitty Chatty/Sawgrass areas.

CybrSage 06-27-2025 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by VillagesDude (Post 2441648)
I wonder if they’ll prohibit u-turns at the fire station so that intersection remains open. That will force persons trying to go southbound up to the circle past 44.

Probably not. More likely they will put a flashing light that turns on when there is a fire emergency.
They have those in PA at least.
The most likely thing is they do nothing. People will probably stop for a fire truck with its light and siren on.

JRcorvette 06-27-2025 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2441502)
I saw an article about upcoming traffic changes to Morse and Chitty Chatty. Apparently they are going to put in a directional median opening.

Does anyone have any details as to what that will be?? How will that impact people entering or leaving Chitty Chatty?

Morse blvd is already a nightmare both North and especially South in the Winter months. They are doing nothing to remedy it. When Wallyworld opens it will be one intersection to avoid.

kingofbeer 06-27-2025 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2441672)
Morse blvd is already a nightmare both North and especially South in the Winter months. They are doing nothing to remedy it. When Wallyworld opens it will be one intersection to avoid.

I rented in Chitty Chatty for 3 months. Would not buy a house there. The exit from Chitty Chatty is horrible.Seems like no one cares about the Sandalwood Condos. Why don't they install a traffic light? Seems like the directional median opening will work as long as you can make a u-turn at the fire station.

Ashley from UK 06-27-2025 08:38 AM

And to put this into perspective. It’s currently quicker to get to/from Rohan from my house in Chitty Chatty by golf cart than it is by car.

These changes will also ensure that getting to Sawgrass and Eastport by car will become VERY time consuming options with U-Turns.

Fortunately though I don’t own a car in the US so this doesn’t impact me - although Groome may have something to say about it when they try to make airport runs.

What I most interested in though is the Walmarts that I can’t access because there’s no plans to get to it by golf cart… unless a route is determined through the marshes and a golf cart tunnel is put under Warm Springs - which again I expect is highly unlikely.

golfing eagles 06-27-2025 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley from UK (Post 2441683)
And to put this into perspective. It’s currently quicker to get to/from Rohan from my house in Chitty Chatty by golf cart than it is by car.

These changes will also ensure that getting to Sawgrass and Eastport by car will become VERY time consuming options with U-Turns.

Fortunately though I don’t own a car in the US so this doesn’t impact me - although Groome may have something to say about it when they try to make airport runs.

What I most interested in though is the Walmarts that I can’t access because there’s no plans to get to it by golf cart… unless a route is determined through the marshes and a golf cart tunnel is put under Warm Springs - which again I expect is highly unlikely.

If history is any indication, the developer has never built golf cart access to businesses that don't rent from then, with the exception of the Lowe's/BJs adjacent to the historical side

gobuck827 06-27-2025 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VillagesDude (Post 2441648)
I wonder if they’ll prohibit u-turns at the fire station so that intersection remains open. That will force persons trying to go southbound up to the circle past 44.

If they prohibit U-turns @ the fire station why wouldn't you just make one @ the new entrance to the Walmart or at the 44 intersection instead of going all the way to the round about?

MplsPete 06-27-2025 10:16 AM

Drivers who try to make a U turn at the fire station, and have a collision there, will have help very close.
(I suppose a No U Turn sign could mitigate that, but then people would simply drive into the fire station building area and make a turn around there.)


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