Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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Second, I think it was always clear that the issue with Relay for Life was about where the contributions were going. At least that's how I understood it. I just feel (and, from what I can tell, so do Whalen and F16) that the Relay should have been held on TV grounds regardless of the fact the money would go to ACS. Where are opinions totally diverge is whether it is a greater financial advantage to Villagers. I think it is a greater financial advantage to the developer (not Moffitt, not Villagers). It's not like we will be getting free medical services -- we or our insurance companies will pay through the nose to be treated at Moffitt. The only true benefit is getting Moffitt onto TV grounds and, to my way of thinking, that is a distinct advantage for advertising for the developer but not much of one for Villagers given that Moffitt is going to be built in Leesburg.
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I am so very thankful that today's "letter-editorials" appeared.
I am so very tired of being so inundated with bashing messages, blaming everyone from Mr. Obama all the way down to Ms. Ritchie for everything. My reasonably substantial contribution to Moffitt was made several months ago in Good Faith that there really was a viable reason for it. Today's entries validate my original faith and give me comfort. Indeed, there may possibly be more money forthcoming! SWR
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That's Creely a choice. Good suggestion?
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Well stated thread cabo35, thanks!
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Thank you Cabo for your thoughtful and respectful comments. I have long thought to respond to some of the posts on other threads pertaining to this Moffitt debate. Being a cancer victim myself and having lost my sister, my father and now have a daughter fighting breast cancer, from an emotional standpoint I decided not to. Your post is so on the money, that I felt the need to thank you. I wish that I had the ability to articulate my feelings the way that you do.
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I owe Morse and his family nothing - I just bought a house from him. He means nothing to me and I mean nothing to him, and that's just fine. I am under no false pretenses that he cares one way or the other about my welfare, nor I him. Somehow, I picture The Wizard of Oz with a little man behind the curtain, controlling the newspaper, the radio, the bank and even a TV station (shall we discuss how bad that one is?), trying desperately to control all that is seen and heard in his land. Alas and alack, someone pulls the curtain back but some don't want to look. No one should have the amount of power he has over this community. Cabo, I don't want happy news - I want the truth. You say we are not getting the truth from Lauren Ritchie because she dislikes Morse and because it was on the Opinion page, it has no basis in fact because she's not a real reporter. Well, where were the two "articles" today in the Sun? Oh yeah, on the Opinion page and written by two people who owe either a) their livelihood, or b) their position to Morse. Let's see, who has more credibility...hmmmm.
Bottom line is it's your money and if it makes you "happy" to give it away, go ahead. Personally, I ain't buying what they are selling. They are using stories of people's tragedies with cancer to their advantage, and it makes me sick to see facts twisted and blurred to their advantage. |
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WOW!!! Articulate...I couldn't have said this better!!! In reading some of the other threads...one would get the opinion there's a master conspiracy going againest us. I haven't lived here long and if I wasn't an independent thinker...I'd have wondered what we'd gotten ourselves into by moving here. People, this is a free country that has grown with the Free Enterprise System...and kudos to the Morse family for having an idea and a dream and we all get to benefit from it. I say I'm happy that I have options here if the need would arise. Enough said...let's stop and smell the roses and not be looking under every leaf for something bad to pop out at us!! |
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Tabloid opinion writing
Lauren Ritchie ought to be working for National Enquirer or one of the other checkout line tabloids.....maybe write about Elvis appearing amongst alien space creatures on the White House lawn or something "newsworthy" like that.
It is so evident she has a personal axe to grind w. the Republican developers. If anyone could name some non-republican developers/city planners who could or have built a community as beautiful, clean and fiscally solvent as TV, then maybe we could be convinced of the "conspiracy" theories and the "atrocity" of wanting to bring a nationally recognized Comprehensive Cancer to TV. Especially in a time when healthcare OPTIONS are dwindling for many people w/o insurance or who are underinsured, it is appalling to see people here fighting against more OPTIONS close by for cancer victims. Until you've walked in those shoes, you have no idea as to why you ought to "be careful what you wish for" (no more cancer center options here....limit them to present providers/facilities). And meanwhile, cancer incidence will increase by leaps and bounds as baby boomers age: "To date, investing in cancer care has been a good bet. Cancer incidence has increased dramatically since 1975, and though it has leveled off recently, it is expected to rise an estimated 45% over the next 20 years and to nearly double by 2050. Experts point out that cancer risks increase with age and, with 76 million baby boomers entering their 60s and medical advances keeping people alive well into their 80s, demand is expected to skyrocket. By 2025, 3.2 million New Yorkers will be over age 65, a 40% increase over today's 2.3 million, according to U.S. Census projections. Cancer is already the top killer of Americans under the age of 85...." "Brooklyn's Maimonides Medical Center expects to record 50,000 cancer patient visits this year, up 66% in just two years. ..." And then consider how many New Yorkers retire here in TV, much less all who come from the other 49 states. http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...SUB/308229982# |
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[QUOTE=nitakk;329905]I owe Morse and his family nothing - I just bought a house from him. He means nothing to me and I mean nothing to him, and that's just fine. I am under no false pretenses that he cares one way or the other about my welfare, nor I him.
In past postings I have taken a similar position. The Villages is what it is, the Morses earn their money in a variety of ways, and we have a lovely home surrounded by many friends in a community that their creativity has made special. Having said that, I think all news sources need to be read/listened to objectively. The Sun is a mouthpiece for the Morse family. The Sentinel is a liberal paper, and Lauren Ritchie - as Cabo pointed out in detail - has a history of bashing The Villages, the Morse family, and occasionally Villagers such as ourselves. If you held a dance at a rec center the Wildwood Soup Kitchen, how would you feel if you were only allowed use of the center if you turned over 50% of your proceeds to a charity within TV? IMHO, that is the crux of the issue here. Red, I agree with much of your comments - but as we baby boomers age, we should be happy to have multiple top cancer centers in the area. I have been a proud supporter of Relay for the 2 years we have lived here and will continue to be. I will likely also contribute to Moffitt - but admit that I find their fund raising no to be my cup of tea.
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People, people, people!
Let's not make this an us against them thing. #1 I don't think most of the people uncomfortable with this thing are really against more choices in cancer care here. #2 I think most of us understand that everything one reads is colored by the bias of the writer, whether from Orlando or from the Sun. As usual, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.
I know, personally, my discomfort is due to the way this was presented at the beginning. I think we (Villages residents) deserved to know that the developer was not donating the building for the center, but was building it with the intent of leasing the spaces. I have no problem with that arrangement. If you recall, when the POA discovered a potential Moffitt/Leesburg association, they wondered out loud why it was not to be located in TV. The reason at that time was there was no spaces adequate for the center. Well, then the developer comes forward with plans to build a facility that can house the center. Why not tell it like it is? To me, they came to the rescue. Why publish the decision as a donation when it is not? If we were told the truth at the time, what would be negative? If we were told at the beginning that Moffitt and/or CFHA usually relied on donations for equipment needs, would there be as much concern? I don't understand the apparent decision to spin the story at the beginning. |
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Don't shoot the messenger
Once again, Lauren Ritchie is attacked for reporting news that that our alleged local newspaper, The Daily Sun, either does not report, distorts, or buries on a back page. One may disagree with Ms. Ritchie's tone and/or her interpretation of the facts, but where are the factual inaccuracies?
I find the allegations that the Orlando Sentinel is doing its reporting on The Villages to increase circulation to be particularly absurd. How many additional subscribers do you really think the Sentinel has gotten as a result of Ms. Ritchie's articles? In fact, what the Orlando Sentinel is doing with its articles on The Villages is is what real newspapers are supposed to do-- report the facts of stories that are of importance to their readers. |
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