Originally Posted by butlerism (Post 2020005)

Speed Cameras and shut down the gates, resident access only.
Problem solved.

The larger daily problem is the non residents that cut through TV.

Contractor access by approval only, and a contractor badge.
If they get clocked speeding, they lose their badge.

I had Johnny Nascar tailgating/ Drafting me and then blow past me at the Hwy 441 / Morse gate.
I rode the center white line to the gate and then at the gate, I stopped hard before the sensor. That car hit the gate arm.
Nice $250 penalty ( Gate Arm repair) for being an idiot.

Mr Nascar assumed I would trip the sensor first.

NOT!!!!!!

Hee Hee

Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2019766)

Not defending anyone. We tend to expect demand perfect, it does not exist.

Front page news? Hiding this event? Where to put any story is of course the editors choice. Hiding the event, they could simply chose not to report it. Putting a speed sensor was a declaration if interest. I would expect it records the readings-collecting data.

One of the insurance companies offered a discount if you would put a monitor in your car to access your driving. It failed because few would agree to that. There are endless posts about speeding golf carts, speeding cars, bikes, stop signs, walkers, dogs, kids etc. It will not happen but all should review what they do, that is what you are most in control of.

For walkers, and bike riders, some do, too many don't- wear bright colors-it may save your life.

Originally Posted by talonip (Post 2020043)

I walk very day. I see dumb stuff every day it’s dangerous out there. It is the problem in this world that nobody is held accountable Anymore. It’s always the dead guys fault because of what he is wearing. Come on.

Originally Posted by ncic50 (Post 2019735)

At approximately 6:34 PM, Oct. 19th, a 69 yr old Villages Resident was struck and killed by a motor vehicle while walking on Piney Woods Path at Valleybrook Way in the Village of Dunedin. The victim died from his injuries. Even though not clearly posted, this area as per Section 17-5 has a 20 mph speed limit.

We recently moved back to The Village of Osceola Hills in TV. Our house is on Deskin Lane which has a designated (but NOT posted) 20 mph speed limit. While out walking on Deskin Lane, cars and trucks zoom past us going 30 mph and more. Like almost all of TV streets there are NO posted 20 mph speed signs here.

On Sept. 9th, I telephoned the Sumter County Public Works to inquire about having 20 mph speed signs posted on Deskin Lane. The County Commissioner stated that he would look into it. In a very short time I received a call from a Sumter County Sheriff's Supervisor. The SCSO Supervisor was receptive to my concerns, conducted himself in a highly professional manner and is a great ambassador for the SCSO. SCSO placed a Mobile Electronic Speed Monitor on Deskin Lane near St. Stephen Street. Most motorist slowed down when seeing the device but others just flew by repeatedly at 25-35 mph. After about 3 weeks the sign was relocated to another street in TV.

Unfortunately the SCSO is understaffed and under paid so the likelihood of the SCSO doing more traffic enforcement does not appear to be happening in the near future. We residents of The Villages collectively pay a lot of money in taxes and unfortunately more people will die in TV from motor vehicle vs motor vehicle and motor vehicle vs pedestrian accidents. SLOW DOWN people. We need more SCSO's on the streets.

Like most noteworthy news articles the 2 1/2" long article regarding Tuesday's fatal accident was buried in Section C, Page 4 of The Villages Daily Sun. Instead of hiding news worthy items like this, which is a disservice to Villages Residents; stories like the fatal accident should be on the front page of the paper. We deserve better!

Originally Posted by butlerism (Post 2020005)

Speed Cameras and shut down the gates, resident access only.
Problem solved.

The larger daily problem is the non residents that cut through TV.

Contractor access by approval only, and a contractor badge.
If they get clocked speeding, they lose their badge.

I had Johnny Nascar tailgating/ Drafting me and then blow past me at the Hwy 441 / Morse gate.
I rode the center white line to the gate and then at the gate, I stopped hard before the sensor. That car hit the gate arm.
Nice $250 penalty ( Gate Arm repair) for being an idiot.

Mr Nascar assumed I would trip the sensor first.

NOT!!!!!!

Hee Hee

Originally Posted by Lindaws (Post 2019987)

This is an all over problem. All our streets are 20 but few do it.

Originally Posted by Fenster (Post 2020108)

OP, there is never a shortage of ignorance here. Many people drive too fast. That’s a fact.
It’s foolhardy for people to try speculate about the pedestrian’s medical history, etc.
The issue here is not just this poor person, and his family. (It could be a factor.)
The issue is also not the weight of the car versus the weight of the person (clearly a factor).
The issue is that speedy motorists have less reaction time.
As a young person, I drove too fast. But over the years, I’ve seen too many unnecessary fatalities. And as we age, our reaction times are longer.
Please, everyone, just slow down.
Leave earlier.
Save yourself a costly lawsuit.
Most importantly, save a life.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2019787)

I understand the concern about speeding and 50 in a 30 is a bit much. Do you really think that if the car that struck the pedestrian had been traveling only 20mph then the person would have survived? When 4000 lbs of vehicle strikes 150 lbs of human the vehicle always wins.

Rather than determining how slow a vehicle needs to go in order to safely strike a human, perhaps it would be wise to look into why the collision occurred and work to prevent that. Was the driver not paying attention? Was there a blind curve (doubtful)? Was the pedestrian walking in the center of the street or crossing the street without looking?

I'm not proposing to blame the victim , I'm just suggesting not to jump to the conclusion that speed was the primary and only cause.

Originally Posted by Dorebea (Post 2020132)

I don’t think anyone is suggesting there is a ‘safe speed’ to hit pedestrians. A big benefit of going slower is that it provides more reaction time to avoid accidents.

Originally Posted by ncic50 (Post 2019735)

At approximately 6:34 PM, Oct. 19th, a 69 yr old Villages Resident was struck and killed by a motor vehicle while walking on Piney Woods Path at Valleybrook Way in the Village of Dunedin. The victim died from his injuries. Even though not clearly posted, this area as per Section 17-5 has a 20 mph speed limit.

We recently moved back to The Village of Osceola Hills in TV. Our house is on Deskin Lane which has a designated (but NOT posted) 20 mph speed limit. While out walking on Deskin Lane, cars and trucks zoom past us going 30 mph and more. Like almost all of TV streets there are NO posted 20 mph speed signs here.

On Sept. 9th, I telephoned the Sumter County Public Works to inquire about having 20 mph speed signs posted on Deskin Lane. The County Commissioner stated that he would look into it. In a very short time I received a call from a Sumter County Sheriff's Supervisor. The SCSO Supervisor was receptive to my concerns, conducted himself in a highly professional manner and is a great ambassador for the SCSO. SCSO placed a Mobile Electronic Speed Monitor on Deskin Lane near St. Stephen Street. Most motorist slowed down when seeing the device but others just flew by repeatedly at 25-35 mph. After about 3 weeks the sign was relocated to another street in TV.

Unfortunately the SCSO is understaffed and under paid so the likelihood of the SCSO doing more traffic enforcement does not appear to be happening in the near future. We residents of The Villages collectively pay a lot of money in taxes and unfortunately more people will die in TV from motor vehicle vs motor vehicle and motor vehicle vs pedestrian accidents. SLOW DOWN people. We need more SCSO's on the streets.

Like most noteworthy news articles the 2 1/2" long article regarding Tuesday's fatal accident was buried in Section C, Page 4 of The Villages Daily Sun. Instead of hiding news worthy items like this, which is a disservice to Villages Residents; stories like the fatal accident should be on the front page of the paper. We deserve better!