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dzine 09-12-2020 06:19 PM

Latitude - Daytona
 
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Originally Posted by under55 (Post 1831330)
Have been in The Villages over 13 years. Built 2 new homes here. But some things you just can't put a finger on just a feeling it's time for a change. Went last weekend to check out Latitudes Margaritiville Daytona Beach. Nice small development everything is new. There is now a range of preowned homes to buy so you don't have to wait to build. We purchased a preowned and moving next month. On to our next adventure. We also thought about OTW and Trilogy but the monthly fees seemed high. Our villa fees will be about 270 per month but that includes all outside landscaping upkeep and irrigation and any new exterior painting and roof replacement as needed. They will go up another $20 when the Beach Club opens up. But no Bond and no yearly maintenance fee.
Here is a great article on the place. Latitude Margaritaville Daytona Beach Retirement Guide

I looked there too and very interested. Not only is it going back near the beaches I so miss (8-10 miles good to be safer from FL storms as area not so prone), but back to the real world of convenience, lots of restaurant choices, and places to explore up and down the coast.
3000 max homes they say. Beach Club. One square with dancing/ music. Perfect. After a while the big numbers trying to get a seat at our squares, in a rec center, etc wears thin. 9 years here and so much has changed. 80,000 to 140,000 and growing beyond what feels like fun.

vintageogauge 09-12-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1832000)
Last I heard, there is a Latitude Margaritaville that is newly under construction outside of Panama City. I have not seen a great deal of information about it but, given that we are a couple of years out from making a move anyway, this is definitely an area worth checking out to us. Both the PC location and the Daytona location would be prone to hurricane damage just like any other coastal neighborhood is.

TV is high on the list simply because of the wide variety of activities and the fact that it is more inland but also within a reasonable drive of some nice coastal vacation areas. I have not looked into OTOW, yet, but I've heard it's nice. I just think that you get a lot of bang for the buck at TV.

I will admit that I don't quite get the reasoning behind the apartments that they are putting up in TV. I'm going to be keeping an eye on that.

There must be a demand for high priced apartments living as it is so much lower to rent a 2 bedroom 1200 sq. ft. villa with a 2 car garage compared to a 2 bedroom apartment, same with a 3 bedroom designer, much lower than a 3 bedroom apartment

patfla06 09-12-2020 06:58 PM

One of the things to consider is the crime rate of anywhere you’re considering.

Daytona Beach is not what I would consider safe.

Just my opinion.

Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1832081)
There must be a demand for high priced apartments living as it is so much lower to rent a 2 bedroom 1200 sq. ft. villa with a 2 car garage compared to a 2 bedroom apartment, same with a 3 bedroom designer, much lower than a 3 bedroom apartment

I'm going to have to visit TV to understand the reasoning behind that but one reason might be that the apartments tend to be centrally located (within a town square) while a good many of the rental homes are not. It boils down to a convenience/location thing.

Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1832090)
One of the things to consider is the crime rate of anywhere you’re considering.

Daytona Beach is not what I would consider safe.

Just my opinion.

This is a good point and one of the reasons that the Watersound location (outside Panama City) sounds good to us.

But, again, TV is established with amenities already in place which is definitely a plus.

spk7951 09-13-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1831776)
Here is a link to homes now available. The amenity fee seems to be in the high 300's and is it based on cost of living or can it be raised? Also, I see some mighty bright colors of homes there. Do they have community standards?

9249 Sw 97th Circle, Ocala, 34481

Also. What does "private sewer" mean?

Not sure where that amenity fee is but on our new home we start at $282 month. That includes the internet & trash. All told our monthly expenses for utilities & amenity fees will be around $30 more TV.
Contrary to what some have said here we will own the land our house is on. Yes there are community standards which from my read seems a bit stronger than TV. Example, no overnight parking of rv's in your driveway or street, OTOW provides a lot for that (unsure if cost to use it).
I suspect private sewer may be similar to the TV setup.

davem4616 09-13-2020 11:00 AM

right now my wife and I are very happy and content living in TV...we're really not interested in exploring other places to live

why...because we know what'll happen. It'll be just like stopping into an automobile show room 'just to see the new cars' and then ending up driving away in a new car

doodles 09-13-2020 11:09 PM

If you play golf it’s expensive in OTOW.The activities here outdo just by the number Of things available . Unless your living next door to the apartments there is no reason for your home value to go down.

Nucky 09-13-2020 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 1831768)
My two pennies worth. We have been coming to Central Florida/Ocala since 1994 when my wife's parents moved to Oak Run off SR200 Ocala, a year later an aunt and uncle moved to OTOW. We are a small family so eventually when all the family passed we inherited a home in Oak Run and one in OTOW. We lived in both homes at different times but for a number reasons we sold both. In 2018 we rented in TV drank the kook aid then bought a CYV and enjoyed it. We are now selling the CYV and this week moved to OTOW. We are not golfers so that did not play into any decision, nor were we involved in a lot of clubs or outside activities. If we were golfers may have stayed at TV because golfing here in OTOW is more money. From the years we were coming to Ocala both my wife and I made a number of friends in Ocala so that played into a decision to move to OTOW. Our dollar for dollar purchase of a home went further in OTOW. Lease hold? It's a 100 year lease from the time the home was built in our case 2017 so at our age that would make us 165 years old. We have no children so leaving it to them isn't a factor.

For our monthly HOA we get 30 Mbs internet, lawn maintenance/bush trimming, exterior home painting every 5 years, repairs to roof damage and the exterior of the home being insured ( we have HO6 insurance for our interior ) . We purchased a home the same size as our CYV ( 2 bed/2 bath 2 car garage vs 1.5 on the CYV) on a corner lot with plenty of windows and a view of the 17th tee of one of the golf courses. The same house at TV would have cost many thousands more.

For us it will work. We will miss the long golf cart rides we've taken from the north end of TV near Rt42 to Brownwood or to other town squares and Culvers. We can however still go to Publix, WalMart Food Store, Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts, Taco Bell, Italian, Chinese and an ice cream shop all on our golf cart. As far as SR200 being extremely busy we found that going to stores/restaurants on 27/441 was just a busy. I would still give and edge to TV but for our tastes and lifestyle OTOW will work for us.

I hope you stay in touch and let us know how it works out. I have enjoyed your posts on TOTV'S and wish you luck.

Topspinmo 09-14-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 1831299)
I LOVE the Villages. Honestly I do. The convenience of everything. The variety offered. A lot of friendly people. HOWEVER. I've noticed a change in the 5 years we have lived here. I see that the priority is focused on "south of Brownwood". I also see that our home values will decrease as each "multi family/apartments" is built. Hacienda Hills & Katie Belle's have been identified as apartments. 468 new apartments including section 8 are being built behind the Haciendas of Mission Hills. TooJay's and Demshar's have closed in Spanish Springs and are they next to become apartments?
I consider a move to On Top of the World in Ocala. Husband said he would never move anywhere that you didn't own the land (leasehold). I have recently found out that there are 3 communities in OTOW (Candler Hills, Indigo East & Weybourne Landing) that is fee simple and you DO own the land.
I would like your thoughts please on why or why not you would consider OTOW? Thank you.


The apartment on other side is cherry lake not part of villages and not connected other than going down 466 to Morse Blvd. IMO has no impact on villages. But, I am septic that developers apartments complexes might be be popping up everywhere now that they’ve weaseled amenities passes for districts developers sold control over.

Topspinmo 09-14-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by doodles (Post 1832526)
If you play golf it’s expensive in OTOW.The activities here outdo just by the number Of things available . Unless your living next door to the apartments there is no reason for your home value to go down.


IMO I question even these will loose money unless they recently brought beside them. And then it’s still debatable, wait and see. IMO the more problem is over crowding in already crowed area?

Topspinmo 09-14-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1831318)
should I take your word for it? Unfortunately there are many "opinion" posts here that are not based on fact, but word of mouth.

Or you’ll find out for yourself?

Timothyimitchell 09-14-2020 09:05 AM

I do not believe apartments will be popping up all over TV. If done right they will be an addition to what is already offered. If you don't like the apartment buildings move away from them. Move south young man!

Topspinmo 09-14-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mamamia54 (Post 1831377)
Section 8? I doubt that. If true, everyone in the Villages should be concerned whether it’s in their backyard or not.


It’s not in villages back yard. Can’t stop other developers developing private land, well maybe? it you’re next to Morse Private compound?

Topspinmo 09-14-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 1832740)
I do not believe apartments will be popping up all over TV. If done right they will be an addition to what is already offered. If you don't like the apartment buildings move away from them. Move south young man!

Who says they won’t be popping up down there?

Topspinmo 09-14-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristine B (Post 1831894)
I believe TOTW is fairly large with a wide range of housing prices and styles to choose from. It is kind of a golf cart community but if you need to go to the doctor, grocery shopping, church or need anything, you must go by car. They have no stores of any kind, nor medical, nor restaurants nor places of worship in the community. I find myself being more and more grateful to be able to drive the golf cart practically wherever I need to go. My eye sight isn’t what it used to be and I don’t think it will improve with age.

I agree.

eweissenbach 09-14-2020 10:05 AM

The only other age-restricted community we seriously looked at was Stonecrest about 8 years ago. We looked at 5 or 6 houses With one of their salespeople and found them well done with bigger yards and lower price tags than TV. While we were there two things caused us to eliminate that option.

1. There was simply NO activity. It was a beautiful spring day, but when we toured the pools ( they have an indoor pool) there was virtually no one there. The golf course (which anyone can play) wasn’t busy, and we saw few people out and about walking, running, cycling, or carting. Just seemed dead, especially in contrast toTV. I understand there are people who would be attracted to that, but not us.

2. The salesperson must have told us half a dozen times how we could go by golf cart to the villages and enjoy the entertainment at Spanish Springs or any of the country clubs. He said that so often that we laughed after we left that he was seemingly trying to sell us on The Villages and not Stonecrest. We said to each other, “well if The Villages is the place to be, maybe that’s where we should buy”, and that’s what we did.

Malsua 09-14-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1831357)

The glass is not 1/2 empty, the glass is +90% full.


:ho:

The glass is never empty. It's just that you can't see the Nitrogen, Oxygen and trace gases in the glass that are essential to life.

vinricci 09-17-2020 03:38 PM

Wife and just toured Latitudes today. Not much going on. Most of the homes are 2 bed/2 bath. No golf cart garages, but they say it’s a golf cart community. Saw a few carts but frankly there’s no where to go. What worries us is that since first people moved in March 2018 they have only sold a little over 1,000 homes. The Developer originally planned on 6;000 homes but has decided that 3,500 may be enough.
Ultimately there will be a private area on the beach for residents and a shuttle there. However, it’s not finished as yet. They don’t have a golf course so if you want to play you have to visit LPGA nearby. For those of us who are used to playing here often for $142.00 a year, it will cost between $29-$59 per person to play 18 holes.
Only plus we could see was there’s a Tanger Mall and Sam's Club close by.

Bay Kid 09-18-2020 08:00 AM

I have never seen another development for the price to be anywhere as much fun as TVs!

John41 09-18-2020 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kmspla1952 (Post 1831299)
I LOVE the Villages. Honestly I do. The convenience of everything. The variety offered. A lot of friendly people. HOWEVER. I've noticed a change in the 5 years we have lived here. I see that the priority is focused on "south of Brownwood". I also see that our home values will decrease as each "multi family/apartments" is built. Hacienda Hills & Katie Belle's have been identified as apartments. 468 new apartments including section 8 are being built behind the Haciendas of Mission Hills. TooJay's and Demshar's have closed in Spanish Springs and are they next to become apartments?
I consider a move to On Top of the World in Ocala. Husband said he would never move anywhere that you didn't own the land (leasehold). I have recently found out that there are 3 communities in OTOW (Candler Hills, Indigo East & Weybourne Landing) that is fee simple and you DO own the land.
I would like your thoughts please on why or why not you would consider OTOW? Thank you.

We were living in an adult condo in Stuart, Florida and toured OTOTW. We liked the home we saw but didn’t like the Ocala area. Then we took The Villages Lifestyle week and left after three days Didn’t care for the homes being back to back. Had better view in our Stuart condo. They gave us $400 Villages Dollars and we bowled and went to a cat show, listened to some music at the square. But we went back to our Stuart condo. It had about 1000 residents, a community dock, boat and RV storage on site. Had a pool, wood shop meeting hall, library and office. Condos were concrete with tile roofs, two stories high. Beautiful landscaping and well maintained. Just seven miles from the beach, Some activities like cards, bingo, line dancing etc. It was so much more beautiful than the Villages or OTOTW. Decided to leave after the two years of hurricanes 140 + mph winds. Not much damage to us but many blue roof tarps for months everywhere Miami up to Melbourne. So we bought a Villages CYV in 2006 and a year later got hit by the tornado, extensive damage had to move out for five months. If we were to move it would be back to Stuart.

thelegges 09-18-2020 05:04 PM

We love the beach, but not a fan of the insurance. But if I had to stop playing golf we would be somewhere near the coast

graciegirl 09-19-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1832738)
Or you’ll find out for yourself?

If you find Spanish Springs on this map, you can follow Morse south to see up close the area where Hacienda Hills Country Club WAS and you can enlarge that area on the map to see up close. Across from where it was torn down is golf course and the Sharon Morse Nature Preserve. Behind it is golf course.

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