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jimbomaybe 02-24-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304711)
The problem with the carts vs pedestrians and bikers is that even though the aggressive/thoughtless drivers may be in the "minority", this minority can cause incredible havoc. I ride a bike and also do a lot of walking, every day. I'd say almost every time I go out I encounter at least one aggressive golf cart rider. People don't seem to realize that if you are on a bike, you can't "stop on a dime" if someone turns in front of you. If you're walking and some golf cart zooms around a blind corner at a high rate of speed in the wrong lane, my reaction time might not be quick enough to jump out of the way. I deal with it my trying to do my exercise at quieter times of the day when there are less vehicles on the trails. It sounds like the OP is a biker, and I sympathize with him/her. This time of year, especially, with the huge increase in cart traffic, it's not easy being a biker on the multi modal paths. Speaking with my engineer's cap on, the trails were designed 20 years ago when golf carts were only going 12-13 mph. Now you have the fast carts going 20-25 mph, bikers averaging say 13 mph and walkers averaging say 3 mph, and of course anyone with a brain can see there are going to be safety issues.

I don't think one has to spend much time walking or biking on a MMP to have a close call with a cart, I have no reason to believe my experience would be any different from anyone else here , over a 2 1/2 year time frame two incidents stand out that would have certainly caused significant bodily harm were it not for the circumstance allowing others to take very abrupt action to prevent an accident , I walk but only very early in the AM, flash light ,reflective clothing, at one time I biked a lot, but not down here, not on a MMP or the street

golfing eagles 02-24-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304711)
The problem with the carts vs pedestrians and bikers is that even though the aggressive/thoughtless drivers may be in the "minority", this minority can cause incredible havoc. I ride a bike and also do a lot of walking, every day. I'd say almost every time I go out I encounter at least one aggressive golf cart rider. People don't seem to realize that if you are on a bike, you can't "stop on a dime" if someone turns in front of you. If you're walking and some golf cart zooms around a blind corner at a high rate of speed in the wrong lane, my reaction time might not be quick enough to jump out of the way. I deal with it my trying to do my exercise at quieter times of the day when there are less vehicles on the trails. It sounds like the OP is a biker, and I sympathize with him/her. This time of year, especially, with the huge increase in cart traffic, it's not easy being a biker on the multi modal paths. Speaking with my engineer's cap on, the trails were designed 20 years ago when golf carts were only going 12-13 mph. Now you have the fast carts going 20-25 mph, bikers averaging say 13 mph and walkers averaging say 3 mph, and of course anyone with a brain can see there are going to be safety issues.

I agree with what was just posted. What does that have to do with the claim that it is the majority of golf cart drivers?

mickey100 02-24-2024 08:29 PM

Majority is a vague term. Is it 51% vs 49%? 70% vs 30%? Does it really matter? and who cares? The important thing is, there are stupid golf cart drivers out there, we've all seen them, who drive unsafely, and put others at risk.

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304891)
Majority is a vague term. Is it 51% vs 49%? 70% vs 30%? Does it really matter? and who cares? The important thing is, there are stupid golf cart drivers out there, we've all seen them, who drive unsafely, and put others at risk.

You can say same thing about walkers, runners, bikers, vehicle drivers. The world full entitled stopidos.

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2302967)
You clocked them??? Please tell us how you did that? :shrug:

By driving along side them and looking at my speedometer. :evil6:

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2302654)
When i see these post I just cannot understand what the problem is. I have used those paths on my bicycle almost every day for over a year. Never had even the hint of a problem.

Probably someone wasn’t paying attention while on there phone and blundered out in front of someone.:welcome:

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2302157)
One problem is that many golf carts have a top speed of 20 MPH, but some drivers are NOT satisfied and jack up their governor to (say) 30 MPH. The end result is NO surprise.......there is a lot of passing. The Village Police should determine a top speed and then FORCE compliance Compliance with safety is WHAT Police do (ideally). Maybe the MMPs should have passing lanes in key spots like before a blind curve?

We need to fund the police portable dynamometers and have spot checks. Drive back wheels on Dyno mash gas and measure the speed of cart. If over recommended speed limit impound the cart issue citation go before judge to see if capable of following rules. With fines, impoundments, and court costs maybe judiciary system would be funded properly :beer3: Naa, overkill :pepper2:

golfing eagles 02-24-2024 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2304899)
We need to fund the police portable dynamometers and have spot checks. Drive back wheels on Dyno mash gas and measure the speed of cart. If over recommended speed limit impound the cart issue citation go before judge to see if capable of following rules. With fines, impoundments, and court costs maybe judiciary system would be funded properly :beer3: Naa, overkill :pepper2:

Not in Oceania :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Topspinmo 02-25-2024 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2304900)
Not in Oceania :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


So, you won’t make donation for good of law? :a20:

golfing eagles 02-26-2024 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2305180)
So, you won’t make donation for good of law? :a20:

Law, yes. Orwellian nightmare, no.

golfing eagles 02-26-2024 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304891)
Majority is a vague term. Is it 51% vs 49%? 70% vs 30%? Does it really matter? and who cares? The important thing is, there are stupid golf cart drivers out there, we've all seen them, who drive unsafely, and put others at risk.

OK, maybe I should have phrased it differently. How about this: The OP claimed "a majority" of cart drivers won't share the road. Having driven over 25,000 miles in TV, I maintain it is more like 2-3%. Hardly "a majority" by any definition.

MX rider 02-26-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2305201)
OK, maybe I should have phrased it differently. How about this: The OP claimed "a majority" of cart drivers won't share the road. Having driven over 25,000 miles in TV, I maintain it is more like 2-3%. Hardly "a majority" by any definition.

I run on the mm path and would agree with your numbers


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