Free speech.

So? One incident doesn’t make it a daily problem

wear light/bright colored clothes when it is dark

Carts have a 20 mph speed limit which is rarely adhered to.

I understand this problem every time i use that path and its busy. Some jerky old drunk will be driving 40 mph and screaming at me to get out of his way how do I dare etc.

I stay on bike paths now.

One direct hit and you might not get a chance to have another “daily” problem.

We made it! Reports of carts doing 40mph now! I wonder how long before we hear about carts going 45mph.

I keep looking up for satellites falling out of orbit or blue ice falling from airplanes. I know it's not a daily problem but one direct hit and.....

I wish the probabilities were the same….

I used to ride a regular bike (not electric) on the MMPs. I would average about 18.5 mph on my rides of 1.5 hours. I had multiple lights on front and back. I did occasionally pass a slow cart. I had mirrors to see if who was coming behind me. Unfortunately it just got too scary out there with cart drivers not paying attention or on their phones. I had several close calls over a few months and decided it wasn’t worth the risk as shown by bikers being hit and seriously injured. I was out there trying to have a healthy lifestyle and to be hit and disabled for life didn’t seem like a good trade off.

So now I am on my Peloton in my house where I am warm or cool depending on the season. Patience is the key for cart drivers, but do bikers and walkers really want to depend on cart drivers who maybe can’t see really well and have slow reactions? I just wouldn’t bet my life on it.

In the 18 yrs we lived in TV this was the most contentious issue and it’s all because people seem to feel entitled and angry. When we first moved there everyone would wave when meeting them and when we left folks would rather give you the middle finger than wave or speak. The attitudes became harsh as so many folks seem to think that nobody should have rules and now this attitude is prevalent across our country. So sad, neighbors don’t even know each other in most cases.

You're right, it can be sketchy on the mm on a bike, once in a while. It doesn't seem too bad in our area. I run the mm more than I bike. I'd rather ride in the dirt at Santos, much safer.

But as I said in a previous post, the vast majority of cart drivers I see are courteous.

We've been avid Peloton riders for about 3 years. We're snowbirds, so we have one here and in Indiana. lol. Great way to workout!

There seems to be much debate and inconsistency regarding the local laws as to who has rights of way in various situations. I prefer to use common sense and follow a much less ambiguous law, the law of physics. I get out of the way of anything bigger and/or going faster. I don’t want to be the person lying in a hospital bed saying, “but I had the right of way”.

Biker Immunity! Self determination of when a stop is needed or not. We may have to take this one to the Supreme Court. Then again,
it may take some time and the biker may have some people beholding to them on it.

Why such mean comments?

And where would that be ???? On a sidewalk…

Look up walking rules in Florida.

Basically walk facing traffic on left edge of road. Only have right way in marked crosswalks unless vehicle can not stop in time before you step in path. when crossing street 90 degree path. Walking two abreast on any street or path where other vehicles preside hogging the path road not sharing it. Even walking on walking trail two or more abreast when walkers or bikers coming hogging the path. Common sense, Safety, and curiosity works both ways.

Seems golf cart out or control posts are as popular as dog poop threads. Pops up every few weeks.

And my case is the polar opposite. We moved in 3 years ago, know almost all of our neighbors, and everyone gives the "Villages Wave" when we pass by...

In newer Southern areas they have walking biking paths only.

Use to do that now rarely get wave back. So I’m protesting and only wave if get wave. Waving matters….:sigh:

My wife and I walked miles on MMP's for many years without problem, as we looked out for our own safety.
What others did or didn't do was their problem.
Nowhere is 100% safe, but using just a bit of common sense, keeps the survival odds in your favor.
Look after No.1 and admire the carnage as you stroll by!

Things always get snarky on TOTV when it rains.

Maybe cause when somebody not watching where they’re going and almost gets hit they have to post golf carts out of control on MMP. It’s two way street and always will be:throwtomatoes:

Mean????? The OP threw that garbage out against the wall, it is pretty much mandatory that someone call him on it.

Something mental happened to people after Covid. They started driving faster and often going through stop signs. I am NOT surprised that pedestrians are in danger on the multi-use paths. During Covid, the roads had less traffic so drivers got used to speeding and reckless driving. They are STILL doing that. Police need to take charge and take back both roads and the multi-use paths.

One problem is that many golf carts have a top speed of 20 MPH, but some drivers are NOT satisfied and jack up their governor to (say) 30 MPH. The end result is NO surprise.......there is a lot of passing. The Village Police should determine a top speed and then FORCE compliance Compliance with safety is WHAT Police do (ideally). Maybe the MMPs should have passing lanes in key spots like before a blind curve?

I do it that way. Big deal if I have to walk on the grass sometimes as the carts pass. The grass does NOT bite.

Very true, but there is also the factor that some carts have set their top speed higher than 20 MPH.

My car can go well over 100 mph... Yet, I rarely go over 75-80... Something must be wrong with my car...

Florida law - cars and carts must stay at least 3 feet from a bicycle or pedestrian
 

Walkers/joggers/runners should walk facing traffic. If you can't pass them (safely) without giving 3 or more feet clearance, then you should WAIT. Sorry hot cart Joe.

Bicycles have the right to the entire lane - Florida LAW - same applies for in the streets.
Many (including me) move to the right to aid passing carts and faster vehicles.
*If I don't move to the right, you should not be passing because there is another vehicle or limited visibility ahead.*
When passing, you should completely move to the left lane giving the bike or pedestrian maximum safety while passing - just like you'd do on HIGHWAY 42 when passing another car.

Be courteous and cautious (safe). Give others as much room as possible.

When the lanes split (single file around vegetation and such), you should not pass.
Reason: there is not 3-feet of clearance as required by FLORIDA LAW.
Sure, the pedestrian can courteously step off the pavement. A bicycle usually cannot for safety and stability reasons.

Please Share Courteously

I bet Tiger Woods doesn't drive like a p-off maniac when going to golf.
I laugh as I think how it screws-up your game.

This subject has gone for 5 pages. So, that shows reasonable interest. Some subjects end up only 1 or 2 pages long. Plus this subject involves SAFETY. New residents might want the opinions of veteran residents on the safety of the MMPs. Many people responding thought that it was a SINCERE question.

I have 20k miles on my 4y/o cart so I’m on the MMP’s a lot; I don’t have a problem with pedestrians or cyclists; what I do have an issue with is the idiot pedestrians who cannot grasp the concept of walking against oncoming carts or bikes and also those who decide to walk at zero dark thirty with dark clothing on with no lights or reflectors.

I might have considered it a serious question as well, until it ended with "it's not that difficult", implying the OP already had some knowledge of the subject.

Uh, there is no VILLAGE POLICE. You won't see the Sheriff enforcing anything on the MMP's and while many years ago you'd hear about people getting caught with a golf cart that could exceed 20mph, I haven't heard anything in years.

I can't say for sure. I try to take people as sincere until proven otherwise. The last part could be meaningful. It might not be sincere?

Please walk facing traffic and ride your bike with the traffic. Thank you

I did hear about ONE (only one in a long time) fine for an altered governor in a Golf Cart. Technically, I'm sure you are correct about no actual Villages Police. I remember years ago seeing Police officers at the Squares, so I guess that I assumed that The Villages NEEDED a quick reacting Police Force because of the combination of older, easily manipulated residents that have money or jewelry on them. Plus the alcohol consumption would make them vulnerable to pick-pockets and car thieves and etc. That was just logical to me.
........I still don't see the point of changing pretty flowers every few months on the round-abouts. I often see pot-holes stay unfixed for many weeks. To me, there seems to be more concern with looking nice and impressive. Yet, maybe, the Police are completely lacking. I can't even see how that could be possible. My home town in Pa. had 60,000 residents when I grew up and on Saturday and Thursday when the town businesses stayed open until 9 pm. Beat Policemen were walking the streets and checking parking meters and just maintaining order and a presence. And there was almost zero crime back then, yet the Police seemed ready to handle any emergency. The US steel mill there may have provided a lot of tax money for Police.
........The Villages has smarter residents and better homes on average than my home town. Maybe I am wrong, but just on face value, it seems to me that Village residents are not as safe because of the Police as I would expect. The fire department and ambulance capability seems pretty impressive. I just don't see many Police vehicles.
......... Call them Village Police or county Sheriffs or whatever? I hope that I am wrong if a real disaster ever happens.

To paraphrase a gun related line. Carts don't cause problems, idiots in carts cause problems! Cart safety is only as safe as the driver. Nice folks share the MMPs. Jerks think they own it. Everyone stops for the Sandhill cranes. Can we be that nice for other humans?

Maybe. On the other hand, 6 pages and no sign of the OP returning to the thread.