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jimjamuser 02-19-2024 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2301823)
I agree, but their frustration was very evident. Long line up of carts behind them, rush hour from the rec center?

Sounds like they need a passing lane.

jimjamuser 02-19-2024 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2302533)
Recent shooting in KC, 900+ police officers on duty. And at least 2 people who had, but shouldn’t have had guns, start shooting. My guess all capable officers….but they can’t be every six feet..
Does the local sheriff’s office have drones? I don’t know do you?
improve safety…..is it bad?

Your assumptions don’t make sense…..

I would NOT call them assumptions.They are the answers to the questions that I was asked about.

fdpaq0580 02-19-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2302831)
Sounds like they need a passing lane.

In my experience, impatient people won't wait for a passing lane. They want to go NOW!
But it is a nice thought. Kind of like locking your doors only keeps honest people honest.

Topspinmo 02-19-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2302029)
We made it! Reports of carts doing 40mph now! I wonder how long before we hear about carts going 45mph.

I clocked several LSVs par carts and star carts at around 38 mph. Going up B/V. I was doing my civic duty while also breaking the posted speed limit. Which re-enforces my theory nobody licenses golf cart to go extra 5 miles per hour. They do it so they can go 35 plus. :evil6:

fdpaq0580 02-19-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2302860)
I clocked several LSVs par carts and star carts at around 38 mph. Going up B/V. I was doing my civic duty while also breaking the posted speed limit. Which re-enforces my theory nobody licenses golf cart to go extra 5 miles per hour. They do it so they can go 35 plus. :evil6:

Can't say I'm all that surprised. Why cheat for dimes when it's so easy to cheat for dollars. Dishonesty! They deserve the worst that can happen to them, but only to them.

golfing eagles 02-19-2024 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2302793)
Well said! 2 thumbs up!

Thank you. Of course, it still is a frightening proposition when you agree with me :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

fdpaq0580 02-19-2024 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2302901)
Thank you. Of course, it still is a frightening proposition when you agree with me :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

We can't agree often. People will begin to talk. Wink wink, nudge nudge. 😏

golfing eagles 02-19-2024 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2302902)
We can't agree often. People will begin to talk. Wink wink, nudge nudge. 😏

True. But 2 agreements this year and it's only February. What is this world coming to?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Laker14 02-19-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2302906)
True. But 2 agreements this year and it's only February. What is this world coming to?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Get a room.

JMintzer 02-19-2024 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2302451)
What I mean by a real disaster is if the gun violence we see on TV every week came to The Village. Suppose 2 shooters killed 20 people at one of the squares. And if that did happen, it would prove that I was NOT wrong about the need for some kind of fast acting Police force. I don't care if they are called Sheriffs or Police force as long as they react quickly and keep people safe around The Villages.
..........There are also a lot of high tech Police equipment - like drones that could improve safety in The Villages.

Yes... We need a SWAT Response Team (and high tech drones) for 3+ (soon to be 4+) squares in an area that is, arguably, one of the safest in the country...

Vermilion Villager 02-19-2024 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2302029)
We made it! Reports of carts doing 40mph now! I wonder how long before we hear about carts going 45mph.

Just keep them under 88mph! You all know what happens then........:22yikes:

Vermilion Villager 02-19-2024 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2302860)
I clocked several LSVs par carts and star carts at around 38 mph. Going up B/V. I was doing my civic duty while also breaking the posted speed limit. Which re-enforces my theory nobody licenses golf cart to go extra 5 miles per hour. They do it so they can go 35 plus. :evil6:

You clocked them??? Please tell us how you did that? :shrug:

JMintzer 02-19-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2302966)
Just keep them under 88mph! You all know what happens then........:22yikes:

Yeah, but you'll need a cart with a REALL big battery!

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fdpaq0580 02-20-2024 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2302966)
Just keep them under 88mph! You all know what happens then........:22yikes:

I don't! Wha- What happens? (The suspense is killing me)

golfing eagles 02-21-2024 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2303291)
I don't! Wha- What happens? (The suspense is killing me)

You go back to 1955 when things were simpler.

JMintzer 02-21-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2303539)
You go back to 1955 when things were simpler.

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fdpaq0580 02-22-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2303722)

I know of the movie, but never saw it. Hence my ignorance of the reference to 88mph. Should I be very ashamed or just a little?

Dusty_Star 02-22-2024 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2304007)
I know of the movie, but never saw it. Hence my ignorance of the reference to 88mph. Should I be very ashamed or just a little?

It's a good movie.

Two Bills 02-22-2024 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2304007)
I know of the movie, but never saw it. Hence my ignorance of the reference to 88mph. Should I be very ashamed or just a little?

Very!

JMintzer 02-22-2024 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2304007)
I know of the movie, but never saw it. Hence my ignorance of the reference to 88mph. Should I be very ashamed or just a little?

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fdpaq0580 02-22-2024 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2304054)

So, what should my penance be? 🙏😔

JMintzer 02-23-2024 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2304085)
So, what should my penance be? 🙏😔

Obviously, you must watch all three of the movies, back to back to back...

Even the really crappy 3rd one...

fdpaq0580 02-23-2024 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2304353)
Obviously, you must watch all three of the movies, back to back to back...

Even the really crappy 3rd one...

On my honor as a sniveling little rat faced git, it shall be done!

Oh, can I take PP breaks? (Oh please, oh please, oh please!) 😟🙏

JMintzer 02-23-2024 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2304405)
On my honor as a sniveling little rat faced git, it shall be done!

Oh, can I take PP breaks? (Oh please, oh please, oh please!) 😟🙏

What do you think that bottle on your golf cart is for?

golfing eagles 02-23-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2304446)
What do you think that bottle on your golf cart is for?

Unfortunately, that's what 70% of championship course golfers and 90% of exec players think. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

fdpaq0580 02-23-2024 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2304446)
What do you think that bottle on your golf cart is for?

Well, yeah! But it will need emptying occasionally!
😟😟😟

mickey100 02-24-2024 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Triker (Post 2301749)
The Villages descriptions of a multi modal path includes sharing with pedestrians.

Can someone please explain to me why the majority of golf carts do not want to share the path with pedestrians or bicycles. It’s not that difficult.



From the villages website.

Share the Path

"Who is allowed to use the multi-modal paths throughout The Villages?” This is a question that the District receives on a regular basis. The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians and skaters. It is not legal…nor is it smart…to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multi-modal paths in The Villages. For additional information, please click on the header of this announcement to read a memo from District Counsel regarding the use of multi-modal paths.
Effective July 1, 2013, The Florida Legislature amended FS 319.14 to allow the conversion of a Low Speed Vehicle (LSV) to a golf cart. For additional information on the process of converting a LSV to a golf cart, please click on the following link: Low Speed Vehicles.

Because they are self-entitled jerks. Most people are pretty good about sharing the paths, but those few who don't cause problems for everyone else.

golfing eagles 02-24-2024 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304568)
Because they are self-entitled jerks. Most people are pretty good about sharing the paths, but those few who don't cause problems for everyone else.

Correct. But the OP claimed "the majority" of cart drivers do not want to share the path, a statement I called him out on.

charmed59 02-24-2024 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2301854)
Can someone explain to me why bikers don’t obey rules of road? Can someone explain to why walkers don’t follow Florida sunshine regulations?

Same reason cart owners don’t stay under the 20mph speed limit.

mickey100 02-24-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2304585)
Correct. But the OP claimed "the majority" of cart drivers do not want to share the path, a statement I called him out on.

The problem with the carts vs pedestrians and bikers is that even though the aggressive/thoughtless drivers may be in the "minority", this minority can cause incredible havoc. I ride a bike and also do a lot of walking, every day. I'd say almost every time I go out I encounter at least one aggressive golf cart rider. People don't seem to realize that if you are on a bike, you can't "stop on a dime" if someone turns in front of you. If you're walking and some golf cart zooms around a blind corner at a high rate of speed in the wrong lane, my reaction time might not be quick enough to jump out of the way. I deal with it my trying to do my exercise at quieter times of the day when there are less vehicles on the trails. It sounds like the OP is a biker, and I sympathize with him/her. This time of year, especially, with the huge increase in cart traffic, it's not easy being a biker on the multi modal paths. Speaking with my engineer's cap on, the trails were designed 20 years ago when golf carts were only going 12-13 mph. Now you have the fast carts going 20-25 mph, bikers averaging say 13 mph and walkers averaging say 3 mph, and of course anyone with a brain can see there are going to be safety issues.

jimbomaybe 02-24-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304711)
The problem with the carts vs pedestrians and bikers is that even though the aggressive/thoughtless drivers may be in the "minority", this minority can cause incredible havoc. I ride a bike and also do a lot of walking, every day. I'd say almost every time I go out I encounter at least one aggressive golf cart rider. People don't seem to realize that if you are on a bike, you can't "stop on a dime" if someone turns in front of you. If you're walking and some golf cart zooms around a blind corner at a high rate of speed in the wrong lane, my reaction time might not be quick enough to jump out of the way. I deal with it my trying to do my exercise at quieter times of the day when there are less vehicles on the trails. It sounds like the OP is a biker, and I sympathize with him/her. This time of year, especially, with the huge increase in cart traffic, it's not easy being a biker on the multi modal paths. Speaking with my engineer's cap on, the trails were designed 20 years ago when golf carts were only going 12-13 mph. Now you have the fast carts going 20-25 mph, bikers averaging say 13 mph and walkers averaging say 3 mph, and of course anyone with a brain can see there are going to be safety issues.

I don't think one has to spend much time walking or biking on a MMP to have a close call with a cart, I have no reason to believe my experience would be any different from anyone else here , over a 2 1/2 year time frame two incidents stand out that would have certainly caused significant bodily harm were it not for the circumstance allowing others to take very abrupt action to prevent an accident , I walk but only very early in the AM, flash light ,reflective clothing, at one time I biked a lot, but not down here, not on a MMP or the street

golfing eagles 02-24-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304711)
The problem with the carts vs pedestrians and bikers is that even though the aggressive/thoughtless drivers may be in the "minority", this minority can cause incredible havoc. I ride a bike and also do a lot of walking, every day. I'd say almost every time I go out I encounter at least one aggressive golf cart rider. People don't seem to realize that if you are on a bike, you can't "stop on a dime" if someone turns in front of you. If you're walking and some golf cart zooms around a blind corner at a high rate of speed in the wrong lane, my reaction time might not be quick enough to jump out of the way. I deal with it my trying to do my exercise at quieter times of the day when there are less vehicles on the trails. It sounds like the OP is a biker, and I sympathize with him/her. This time of year, especially, with the huge increase in cart traffic, it's not easy being a biker on the multi modal paths. Speaking with my engineer's cap on, the trails were designed 20 years ago when golf carts were only going 12-13 mph. Now you have the fast carts going 20-25 mph, bikers averaging say 13 mph and walkers averaging say 3 mph, and of course anyone with a brain can see there are going to be safety issues.

I agree with what was just posted. What does that have to do with the claim that it is the majority of golf cart drivers?

mickey100 02-24-2024 08:29 PM

Majority is a vague term. Is it 51% vs 49%? 70% vs 30%? Does it really matter? and who cares? The important thing is, there are stupid golf cart drivers out there, we've all seen them, who drive unsafely, and put others at risk.

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2304891)
Majority is a vague term. Is it 51% vs 49%? 70% vs 30%? Does it really matter? and who cares? The important thing is, there are stupid golf cart drivers out there, we've all seen them, who drive unsafely, and put others at risk.

You can say same thing about walkers, runners, bikers, vehicle drivers. The world full entitled stopidos.

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2302967)
You clocked them??? Please tell us how you did that? :shrug:

By driving along side them and looking at my speedometer. :evil6:

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 2302654)
When i see these post I just cannot understand what the problem is. I have used those paths on my bicycle almost every day for over a year. Never had even the hint of a problem.

Probably someone wasn’t paying attention while on there phone and blundered out in front of someone.:welcome:

Topspinmo 02-24-2024 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2302157)
One problem is that many golf carts have a top speed of 20 MPH, but some drivers are NOT satisfied and jack up their governor to (say) 30 MPH. The end result is NO surprise.......there is a lot of passing. The Village Police should determine a top speed and then FORCE compliance Compliance with safety is WHAT Police do (ideally). Maybe the MMPs should have passing lanes in key spots like before a blind curve?

We need to fund the police portable dynamometers and have spot checks. Drive back wheels on Dyno mash gas and measure the speed of cart. If over recommended speed limit impound the cart issue citation go before judge to see if capable of following rules. With fines, impoundments, and court costs maybe judiciary system would be funded properly :beer3: Naa, overkill :pepper2:

golfing eagles 02-24-2024 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2304899)
We need to fund the police portable dynamometers and have spot checks. Drive back wheels on Dyno mash gas and measure the speed of cart. If over recommended speed limit impound the cart issue citation go before judge to see if capable of following rules. With fines, impoundments, and court costs maybe judiciary system would be funded properly :beer3: Naa, overkill :pepper2:

Not in Oceania :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Topspinmo 02-25-2024 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2304900)
Not in Oceania :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


So, you won’t make donation for good of law? :a20:

golfing eagles 02-26-2024 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2305180)
So, you won’t make donation for good of law? :a20:

Law, yes. Orwellian nightmare, no.


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