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JMintzer 12-13-2022 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodneysblue (Post 2166038)
So sorry you had a bad experience. Our Villages agent went above and beyond our expectation.

As did ours...

SusanStCatherine 12-13-2022 10:16 PM

Denbal82 thank you for speaking out. I know someone who had great difficulty with her as well. Sometimes it's not just you.

Pairadocs 12-13-2022 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2165305)
I have not listed a house with The Villages. However, when I have listed a house, the maximum listing contract I would agree to was 90 days. And, the contract would include a clause that said, if I lose confidence in the agent or broker, I can fire them at any time. The Villages has some good, experienced agents. Your listing contract is with The Villages, not the individual agent. Also, when listing a house for sale, I always wanted to know the names of the top selling agents in the brokerage. Why not use the best?

Came to all the conclusions you mentioned, but AFTER some really upsetting experiences (in other states). Finally learned, "the hard way" as my dad used to say ! Took two experiences at selling (cigarette butts on the garage floor because the "agent" did not want to "offend" a possible buyer, but didn't mind offending us who did not appreciate smoking in a CLOSED garage in winter with gasoline can present... the mos important factor was POSSIBLE COMMISSION FOR AGENT, not our wishes. Had signed contract with another agent that CLEARLY states no showings with less than 24 notice. Completely ignored that clause, even came by with client wanting in when husband had just arrived home from surgery. Had she made the call 24 hours before, we could have let her know he would be coming home that day. Many lessons to learn, 90 max on a contract, and you have to spell out each and every point with NO "wiggle room". If they break one of the contract's terms... the listing is automatically null and void. It's the only way to NOT be walked all over by a disrespectful agent. There are MANY who do respect their client's rights, homes, and privacy. Some.... definitely do not !

newgirl 12-14-2022 07:17 AM

The broker needs to know this. Sadly, they are not Realtors, they work only for the developer so they do not have to abide by the code of ethics or most other buyer/seller type relationship rules.

newgirl 12-14-2022 07:27 AM

This may work here( although newer agents can be amazing, they have a passion and want to succeed so usually will go the extra mile to make a name for themselves. ) but I sold Real Estate for 20 yrs in Traverse City, Michigan, and would never take a listing for 90 days unless the market was a seller's market. Village sales people do not have the expenses an MLS Realtor has, I put a lot of money and time into my listings ( in 2000 it cost $25 just to put an ad in the paper, add all the other marketing and I spent over $50.000 a yr just on pictures, etc). Today is different because the internet takes away 50% or more of the time, and now it is about websites but there still, MLS agents do not get paid until they close a deal.

Hardlyworking 12-14-2022 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by newgirl (Post 2166196)
This may work here( although newer agents can be amazing, they have a passion and want to succeed so usually will go the extra mile to make a name for themselves. ) but I sold Real Estate for 20 yrs in Traverse City, Michigan, and would never take a listing for 90 days unless the market was a seller's market. Village sales people do not have the expenses an MLS Realtor has, I put a lot of money and time into my listings ( in 2000 it cost $25 just to put an ad in the paper, add all the other marketing and I spent over $50.000 a yr just on pictures, etc). Today is different because the internet takes away 50% or more of the time, and now it is about websites but there still, MLS agents do not get paid until they close a deal.

Working on commission is a very motivating factor. If you don’t work hard you won’t succeed.

newgirl 12-14-2022 07:38 AM

Oh yes, it does! Who a Realtor is working for makes a huge difference, and being a sales person for a developer and a Realtor, are different in so many ways...

Croan 12-14-2022 06:29 PM

Clarification
 
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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 2165335)
My understanding is that Villages "realtors" do not necessarily have to have a real estate license. They do not use MLS and they are contractors contracted to TV.

The people who sell for TV, are Florida licensed sales agents not REALTORS. Developer LICENSEES obtain their license through the State of Florida, just like MLS Realtors. The Developer has their own sale system (go online to the Villages app to find Developer listed resale properties ). The Developer has chosen NOT to affiliate with the Realtor community. The Developer does not share their listings with the MLS community. The Developer does NOT share new construction listings with the MLS community.

If you are a REALTOR, you are a member of the local multiple listing service MLS (sharing your listings to other MLS member offices and Realtors) and the local Realtor Association. You are a member of the Florida State Association of Realtors and the National Association of Realtors. You have a Code of Ethics to adhere to. You have MLS rules in which to abide. You do NOT have access to ANY of the Developer listings, new construction or resale properties. And you do not share your MLS listings with the Developer community sales team.

As a Developer's licensee, you are NOT a Realtor, yet you ARE a Florida licensed sales agent. While there are good licensees in both organizations, please don't confuse the difference between a licensee and a Realtor. The standards are much higher for a Realtor as prescribed by their rules and regulations (ie: Code of Ethics).

I know the difference. I am a REALTOR, still licensed in my former state and have been for many, many years.

retiredguy123 12-14-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Croan (Post 2166458)
The people who sell for TV, are Florida licensed sales agents not REALTORS. Developer LICENSEES obtain their license through the State of Florida, just like MLS Realtors. The Developer has their own sale system (go online to the Villages app to find Developer listed resale properties ). The Developer has chosen NOT to affiliate with the Realtor community. The Developer does not share their listings with the MLS community. The Developer does NOT share new construction listings with the MLS community.

If you are a REALTOR, you are a member of the local multiple listing service MLS (sharing your listings to other MLS member offices and Realtors) and the local Realtor Association. You are a member of the Florida State Association of Realtors and the National Association of Realtors. You have a Code of Ethics to adhere to. You have MLS rules in which to abide. You do NOT have access to ANY of the Developer listings, new construction or resale properties. And you do not share your MLS listings with the Developer community sales team.

As a Developer's licensee, you are NOT a Realtor, yet you ARE a Florida licensed sales agent. While there are good licensees in both organizations, please don't confuse the difference between a licensee and a Realtor. The standards are much higher for a Realtor as prescribed by their rules and regulations (ie: Code of Ethics).

I know the difference. I am a REALTOR, still licensed in my former state and have been for many, many years.

Most of what you said is accurate, but I don't think that many non-Realtor licensed agents would agree that the standards are higher for a Realtor. The NAR is a lot about advertising, collecting money, and tooting their own horn.

MillerD 12-16-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Denbal82 (Post 2165337)
Thanks for the reply. I always heard the houses sell very fast here so I didn't think about the 90 day term and any stipulations to add. I now learned.

Not a resale. They can take a very long time as you're always up against the new homes that list lower than the used homes.

manaboutown 12-16-2022 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Croan (Post 2166458)
The people who sell for TV, are Florida licensed sales agents not REALTORS. Developer LICENSEES obtain their license through the State of Florida, just like MLS Realtors. The Developer has their own sale system (go online to the Villages app to find Developer listed resale properties ). The Developer has chosen NOT to affiliate with the Realtor community. The Developer does not share their listings with the MLS community. The Developer does NOT share new construction listings with the MLS community.

If you are a REALTOR, you are a member of the local multiple listing service MLS (sharing your listings to other MLS member offices and Realtors) and the local Realtor Association. You are a member of the Florida State Association of Realtors and the National Association of Realtors. You have a Code of Ethics to adhere to. You have MLS rules in which to abide. You do NOT have access to ANY of the Developer listings, new construction or resale properties. And you do not share your MLS listings with the Developer community sales team.

As a Developer's licensee, you are NOT a Realtor, yet you ARE a Florida licensed sales agent. While there are good licensees in both organizations, please don't confuse the difference between a licensee and a Realtor. The standards are much higher for a Realtor as prescribed by their rules and regulations (ie: Code of Ethics).

I know the difference. I am a REALTOR, still licensed in my former state and have been for many, many years.

Many VLS agents were successful Realtors in the past, including the subject agent referenced by the OP.

BTW friends of mine who have bought and sold numerous homes both for personal use and investment have experienced Realtors prioritizing listings by the commissions and bonuses they would receive. From the back seat of the car one friend looked over the shoulder of Daughter Realtor who had the listings on a sheet of paper instructing Mom Realtor, the driver, which house to visit next. They started with the highest commission/bonus house first and worked their way down toward the lowest. lol.

My experience with my first VLS agent was disappointing in that even after repeated requests he passively refused to show me even a single resale house. He aggressively steered me to buy a new house and only took me to new spec houses. My guess is VLS agents are incentivized to push new houses as selling new homes is the meat and potatoes of the development business; resales are gravy and icing on the cake - obviously a lot of gravy and icing in The Villages.

Stu from NYC 12-16-2022 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MillerD (Post 2167057)
Not a resale. They can take a very long time as you're always up against the new homes that list lower than the used homes.

As long as you price your resale to the market they typically will sell quickly.

KatieRN 12-16-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2165817)
Our first Villages agent when we arrived was horrendous and despicable and lazy.

The second agent is a Cracker Jack! Goes beyond the call of duty and doesn't wait for things to happen, she makes things happen. She has the energy of a military person from Sparta. When I'm about to drop she motivates me to keep looking. Even my wife, The Energizer Bunny is impressed and that in itself is not an easy trick to pull off!

They are not all bad. I'm so happy I gave this woman a chance. I'll reveal her identity after my deals are signed sealed and done, done, done. She's one in a million. She loves her job. I'm impressed.

I wonder if she's the same one I have. She's got so much energy she's exhausting sometimes;)

Bogie Shooter 12-16-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MillerD (Post 2167057)
Not a resale. They can take a very long time as you're always up against the new homes that list lower than the used homes.

Priced right and desirable this is not true……

Floridajimmie 12-17-2022 10:00 AM

Real estate Agents
 
All of the real estate agents who sell homes in the villages have the same licenses. The only difference is the villages does not belong to MLS. If they did any agent could buy or list any property in or out of the villages. The owners of the villages wants to have a say in marketing and make it more attractive to work for the villages. Who do you call from another state to buy. The villages office. Get it?

wvgal 12-17-2022 01:16 PM

I'm so glad that someone finally said it. In our opinion, she is horrible. A couple of years ago we were under contract for a house she had listed. A major issue was not disclosed and we had to get a lawyer to get our deposit back even though we had concrete proof that both she and the owners were well aware of the issue. After that, we refused to look at any house that she had listed.
You'd be wise to avoid. We recommend JaLaine Callaway. She's as honest as they come.


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