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perrjojo 05-31-2017 08:13 PM

My first reaction was surprise but I then read the article and found it informative.

graciegirl 05-31-2017 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1405492)
My first reaction was surprise but I then read the article and found it informative.

The very best thing always is to learn as much as you possibly can about any subject. And even then, the vagaries of human nature are never what anyone can pin down.

There is a little bit of good in the worst of us and a little bit of bad in the best of us and it is always the atheists who think they know the most about religion.

EnglishJW 05-31-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1405496)
... it is always the atheists who think they know the most about religion.

Really? I would think they would be indifferent at best. Do you have a source for this?

graciegirl 05-31-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EnglishJW (Post 1405500)
Really? I would think they would be indifferent at best. Do you have a source for this?

That is how it looks to me. It used to be that the folks who didn't believe in God or practice any faith just kind of chilled. Now it appear they are all excited about anything that isn't Christian.

I would like to say that four days out of seven I question the existence of a supreme being. AND like most people who are reading this now, I don't understand or can read Arabic. We are at the mercy of those who tell us what to think.

I am skeptical about all this peace stuff. WHAT IF THAT IS WRONG?

ColdNoMore 05-31-2017 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1405492)
My first reaction was surprise but I then read the article and found it informative.

:thumbup:

graciegirl 05-31-2017 08:41 PM

For the past 20 years before moving here we had lived near a mosque in a Cincinnati suburb. Actually the mosque opened in 1995.

Islamic Center of Greater Cincinnati (ICGC)

graciegirl 05-31-2017 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1405509)
Got it. Racism is OK because it's just someone's view.

Your view is not accepted by half this country and they aren't all racists.

There is nothing that cannot be questioned. It is just as wrong to dismiss people who are afraid of radical Islam.

If God is he gave us common sense and a desire to protect our families.

circletrack 05-31-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1405513)
Your view is not accepted by half this country and they aren't all racists.

There is nothing that cannot be questioned. It is just as wrong to dismiss people who are afraid of radical Islam.

If God is he gave us common sense and a desire to protect our families.

We are a nation built on religious freedom. But apparently that does not apply to all religions. Obviously it's too late in life to change anyone's mind here.

As a Christian myself I find this all very sad. They definitely don't teach people to be like this in our church.

ColdNoMore 05-31-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1405517)
We are a nation built on religious freedom. But apparently that does not apply to all religions. Obviously it's too late in life to change anyone's mind here.

As a Christian myself I find this all very sad. They definitely don't teach people to be like this in our church.

Your church sounds admirable. :thumbup:

So sad that there aren't more like it. :ohdear:

Fraugoofy 05-31-2017 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1405464)
According to Sperling's Best Places, 35.56% of Villagers are religious. Of this amount, 0.9% are Muslim. So, I would an article about Ramadan is relevant to many Villagers, including those just curious about the holiday. To say that a newspaper should ignore a high holy holiday because it is not your religion of choice is, at best, narrow minded. The Sun has done an excellent of printing articles about Christianity and Judaism. Nice to see one about Islam. Hoping they do a few more and also articles about Buddhist festivals, Shinto practices, Confucism, Wiccan rites, etc.

Amen, sista!

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dnobles 05-31-2017 09:34 PM

And most Muslim do not condone killing.

Bowtorc 05-31-2017 10:30 PM

One day it will happen close to us . How would you feel today if one of your children was among the dead or injured?

Mrs. Robinson 05-31-2017 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1405478)
I don't know that we can consider Isla a major religion in the United States.

70% of the people in this country identify as Christians, 23% are unaffiliated, 7% are either agnostic or atheists, 1.9% are Jewish and less than 1% are Muslim. There are almost as many Buddhist and Hindus as there are Muslims.

I consider the Muslim religion a major religion because of a few things. Unfortunately, the Jihadists and their ilk are part of this. Islam is heard and seen in the news and read in the papers every day. It is the fastest growing religion in the world today and is the second largest religion in the world. I would venture to say that in 50 years, it will surpass Christianity. No, we won't be around to see this, but I believe this will happen.


So tell me again why there should be a major article in a newspaper about a religious holiday in a country where less then 1% of the population follow that religion. It makes even less sense if we take into consideration the percentage of Muslims in The Villages where less than one half of one percent of us are Muslims.

The percentage of any population has nothing to do with the news, be it political, religious or anything else. Unless a person wants to go through life with blinders on, fine. Don't read anything. But most intelligent people want to know about things of interest, things where they might want a better understanding, things they might not be aware of, etc. I could give you many reasons why someone would like to read about something with which they don't have much familiarity.

I our almost 250 year history, Islam was hardly noticed and hardly spoken about. Now that we are at war with Muslim based organizations, we suddenly need to learn all about the faith and we need to maker sure that they are welcome.


Exactly! And without learning about something, you are at a disadvantage; you are ignorant. You can't discuss it, you don't and won't understand it and if there is a problem with it, you will never be able to do anything positive or anything about it. Because of the world situation, yes -- it is absolutely necessary that we, as Americans, need to learn about the Muslim people and the Islam religion.

I do realize that there are many peaceful Muslims that mean us no harm. Perhaps the vast majority of them fall into that category. But they have been here in the country for over 200 years and there was hardy a mention of them. Since 9/11 it seems that they have become more important for some reason.

"For some reason." Are you serious??? When al-Qaeda hijacked our planes and did those suicide attacks that wasn't reason enough? What happened on September 11th, was the stimulus for what is going on now and why it is the one of the most important things happening in the world today.

I honestly don't have any problem with a newspaper that wants to run a story about Islam or Ramadan. My question is why? There are simply not very people interested. It might make sense in some areas of the country where there is a large Muslim population, but why would they do it here?

If you have to ask why, then you absolutely do have a problem with a paper running a feature about Islam or Ramadan! I don't know you or the people with whom you associate, but I can tell you that 95% of my friends and acquaintances find this kind of article interesting. This is how we all learn and become better informed. This kind of thing is how we become better educated.

Again -- a Muslim population has nothing to do with this kind of article appearing in any newspaper. Perhaps you want to go back to the "Fun with Dick and Jane" era or the Alfred E. Newman comic books. That way you won't have to keep up with the news or live with your ears and eyes open regarding what is going on in this ever-changing dangerous world.

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Mrs. Robinson 05-31-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dnobles (Post 1405529)
And most Muslim do not condone killing.


The religion, Islam, does not condone murder of any kind.

I've wondered how al-Qaeda, the Jihadists, etc., justify what they do under the guise of religion.
:shrug:

Buffalo Jim 05-31-2017 10:55 PM

" I honestly don't have any problem with a newspaper that wants to run a story about Islam or Ramadan. My question is why? There are simply not very people interested. It might make sense in some areas of the country where there is a large Muslim population, but why would they do it here? "

The above is a quote taken from Post 32 above .

The writer raises a very good question when they say " my question is why ".

Actually , if you have had any experience behind the scenes in media you would get a sense of the unending pressure on the Editors of each section to get out their " product " each and every day . So they have a standing meeting every few days and ask for suggestions from the paper's writers as to major topics to write about .
The writers / journalists want to build their resume and of course keep their jobs so they come up with new topics . I can envision such a " blue-sky " session when one sharp young ambitious writer says " hey it`s the most Holy Month for Islam . How about a major article ".
The Editor says " OK great ! Make it long enough and I will use it for Sunday`s paper " . It`s no more than that frankly .
There is space to fill 7 days a week and what are we going to make a feature article next ? I have a 9PM deadline each and every day . I doubt many of us would want those jobs . I have seen what goes into putting out a large metro daily paper from inside and it is a high pressure operation .


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