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blueash 04-21-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 865942)
I know of some "close calls" on the round abouts but I wonder what the stastics are for actual accidents as opposed to any other intersection.

Roundabouts: A Safer Choice - FHWA Safety Program

Here you are:

Compared to other types of intersections, roundabouts have demonstrated safety and other benefits.

Roundabouts:
•Improve safety ◦More than 90% reduction in fatalities*
◦76% reduction in injuries**
◦35% reduction in all crashes**
◦Slower speeds are generally safer for pedestrians

Polar Bear 04-21-2014 09:27 PM

It's not a "rule", but to minimize conflict, just adjust your position/speed as you enter the roundabout so you don't drive right next to another vehicle. It takes little effort once you get used to it and it eliminates the conflicts.

CFrance 04-21-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Fumar (Post 865937)
Excuse me, what are directional signals.....

Something Detroit takes out of any car to be sold in Michigan.

Bogie Shooter 04-21-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 865816)
What are the rules of a roundabout and how do we get everyone on the same page? Every tine we are in the car, we either cut off someone or someone cuts us off. For example, when we are going South on Buena Vista and want to go into a Village on our left, if we are in the inside of the circle, we can't get out without crossing the people on the outside of the circle. If we are on the outside of the circle, the people on the inside go straight and cut us off. HELP!!!

The following threads are previous discussions/debates/arguments on roundabouts. If you want the answer to your question you must read all of the posts. This is best done while enjoying a bottle of scotch! You see, most of us who have been around TOTV for awhile, don't take any new roundabout thread seriously.:wine:
BTW the last thread has 129 posts if you want to start at the bottom and work your way up.

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MikeV 04-22-2014 12:43 AM

For crying out loud just read the signs. It is so easy.

Bonanza 04-22-2014 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 865977)
For crying out loud just read the signs. It is so easy.

Read the signs?
Only read the signs???
What about the road markings -- you know -- those dotted lines???

Sorry. It ain't easy!
The folks here just don't get it!

Mikeod 04-22-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 865987)
Read the signs?
Only read the signs???
What about the road markings -- you know -- those dotted lines???

Sorry. It ain't easy!
The folks here just don't get it!

Yes. Only follow the signs. The lane markings only confuse the situation. The guide published by the sheriff tells the story and the signs agree with the guide.

Mikeod 04-22-2014 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 865919)
Worst rotary is going east on Stillwater to Morse to do a 270 to go North on Morse. Shortly after getting onto Morse there is a right lane bypass. This road design encourages drivers to use the incorrect outside lane to do the 270 so they will be in the right lane for the bypass. My guess is that well over 1/2 the drivers from Stillwater are in the wrong lane in that rotary.

IMO, the number is more like 80%. It really makes it hard to exit the Caroline gate and sets up conflict when the inside vehicle wants to make a legal exit into Caroline. But the truth is that if you navigate it correctly in the inside lane there is sufficient time to merge right and take the bypass. If that move is blocked by someone ignoring the rules, you just don't use the bypass. Better that than causing a crash by also ignoring the rules.

Bogie Shooter 04-22-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 865987)
Read the signs?
Only read the signs???
What about the road markings -- you know -- those dotted lines???

Sorry. It ain't easy!
The folks here just don't get it!

Maybe it would be best to observe the other vehicles rather than the lane markings.
Read the signs upon entering a roundabout

CFrance 04-22-2014 08:00 AM

I always thought the dotted lines were there to allow people entering the roundabout from the street to migrate to the inside (left) lane if they're going 3/4 the way around, and to merge back into the right lane when exiting, to get to the residents' gate. Once inside the roundabout, there's no lane changing till you exit.

What they should have done was make the visitors' gate the residents' gate, and vice versa.

buzzy 04-22-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 865902)
That's why drivers should use the car's directional to signify the intent to exit! But that's another thread! ;)

100% correct. I signal both when entering and exiting.

However, the other day I was approaching a roundabout in the left lane, with my left signal flashing, and planning to go 3/4 of the way around. As I was paused at the entrance for traffic already in the roundabout, a car saw me there and stopped in the roundabout to see what I was going to do. Apparently he thought that I might make an immediate left into oncoming traffic. I waved him past, and then entered.

CFrance 04-22-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 866081)
100% correct. I signal both when entering and exiting.

However, the other day I was approaching a roundabout in the left lane, with my left signal flashing, and planning to go 3/4 of the way around. As I was paused at the entrance for traffic already in the roundabout, a car saw me there and stopped in the roundabout to see what I was going to do. Apparently he thought that I might make an immediate left into oncoming traffic. I waved him past, and then entered.

I can see where that would be confusing to somebody in the roundabout. I wouldn't signal left at all. Enter the roundabout in the lane you want, not signaling at all, go 3/4 the way around and signal right as you approach your exit. All exits are to the right in a roundabout.

The cars approaching the roundabout yield sign just need to know your intention to make a turn.

Barefoot 04-22-2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 866081)
I signal both when entering and exiting. However, the other day I was approaching a roundabout in the left lane, with my left signal flashing, and planning to go 3/4 of the way around. As I was paused at the entrance for traffic already in the roundabout, a car saw me there and stopped in the roundabout to see what I was going to do. Apparently he thought that I might make an immediate left into oncoming traffic. I waved him past, and then entered.

Buzzy, cars have been known to go the wrong way in a roundabout.
The next time you see Fireboy, ask him about the time he met a lady going the wrong way.
She shook her fist at him. :laugh:

Bonanza 04-22-2014 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 866053)

Maybe it would be best to observe the other vehicles rather than the lane markings.
Read the signs upon entering a roundabout

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 866065)
I always thought the dotted lines were there to allow people entering the roundabout from the street to migrate to the inside (left) lane if they're going 3/4 the way around, and to merge back into the right lane when exiting, to get to the residents' gate. Once inside the roundabout, there's no lane changing till you exit.

What they should have done was make the visitors' gate the residents' gate, and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by mikeod (Post 866016)
Yes. Only follow the signs. The lane markings only confuse the situation. The guide published by the sheriff tells the story and the signs agree with the guide.

The point is that the dotted lines are universal law in the entire country and they are prominent throughout every circle within the Villages.

Yes, the guide published by the Sheriff's Dept. may "tell the story," but everyone is not privvy to that publication. I, for one, have never seen it, nor do I know where you get one. It obviously doesn't matter because up to now, whatever is says hasn't worked.

It takes about half an hour to go from Brownwood to Spanish Springs because of the damn circles. That is ridiculous! I guess I'm going to get hammered because of that comment, too.

Oh, well . . .

Barefoot 04-22-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 866100)
It takes about half an hour to go from Brownwood to Spanish Springs because of the damn circles. That is ridiculous!

Actually, I think half an hour is reasonable from Brownwood to Spanish Springs.
If you wish to avoid roundabouts, why not take CR 301 North to CR 466.


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