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VApeople 07-19-2021 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1975241)
Grass is grass, just as the restrictions state.
No need for ARC at all.

If the neighbors complain, then ARC will get involved. That's how it works.

BlackhawksFan 07-19-2021 09:14 AM

So you're saying you bought a home where there are rules/regs for nearly everything and you never inquired about do's/don'ts, neighborhood restrictions?

jimkerr 07-19-2021 09:17 AM

I would contact the ARC to see if they can give you ideas that wouldn’t violate any restrictions.

Wyseguy 07-19-2021 09:20 AM

Hide the fence
 
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Originally Posted by Mistymom (Post 1974805)
We recently bought a Veranda home that we love. One of the reasons we bought a Veranda was because we thought we would have more privacy from our neighbors. This is true, however the six foot vinyl fence is 11 feet from our lanai. I first thought that we could create an island with plants to help hide the ugly fence. I just found out that there is a 7 foot variance that prohibits us from doing anything except plant grass. That leaves us with 4 feet of "our" property. The door of the lanai opens into that area also.
We moved from a house with a beautiful back yard and this situation is very disappointing!
We don't want large traditional shrubs crowding our screens. Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you!


I would propose placing half moon planters around the fence, different heights. Plant mandevilla vines (flowering) in them as well as in the ground. They grow quickly, flower throughout the year, and can be trained. Another choice could be Humming Bird trumpets. They are a bit bushier however. If the property is thin, I'd propose Mandevilla.

PaulinTV 07-19-2021 09:28 AM

Veranda ideas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistymom (Post 1974805)
We recently bought a Veranda home that we love. One of the reasons we bought a Veranda was because we thought we would have more privacy from our neighbors. This is true, however the six foot vinyl fence is 11 feet from our lanai. I first thought that we could create an island with plants to help hide the ugly fence. I just found out that there is a 7 foot variance that prohibits us from doing anything except plant grass. That leaves us with 4 feet of "our" property. The door of the lanai opens into that area also.
We moved from a house with a beautiful back yard and this situation is very disappointing!
We don't want large traditional shrubs crowding our screens. Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you!

Check out some of the Veranda homes for sale photos. I've seen some great sky view (drone) shots that you may be able to get some additional ideas to consider.

Two Bills 07-19-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1975263)
If the neighbors complain, then ARC will get involved. That's how it works.

I understand that.
But.
If OP plants grass, what is there to complain about, providing said grass is not invading neighbors property.
ARC would have nothing to rule on.

wisbad1 07-19-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1975070)
That is fine until a neighbor sees what you have done and complains to ARC and ARC comes by and orders you to remove it.

That is what happened with our neighbors across the street.

Neighbor A planted some shrubs in their yard. Neighbor B did not like it. Neighbor A refused to remove them. Neighbor B complained to ARC and they ordered Neighbor A to remove them.

Drive around and see all the bushes and trees hanging over walls and fences, don’t think it matters.

Velvet 07-19-2021 10:57 AM

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VApeople 07-19-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 1975332)
Drive around and see all the bushes and trees hanging over walls and fences, don’t think it matters.

Until someone complains and ARC gets involved.

trek8000 07-19-2021 12:03 PM

Although I am not yet a resident of the villages, I hope to be one day. I am looking at new construction. As you all know, the Courtyard Villas have the enclosed back yard. My realtor has suggested I can plant tall bushes such as Upright Bottle Brush plants along the fence line for added privacy and to soften the look. He did not say anything about planting a certain distance from the fence line. I am now wondering if there are planting restrictions for the newly built homes which are back to back (those without fences). He indicated I can remove the small bushes put there by the builder and replace with taller plants for added privacy. Sounds like I need to have another discussion with my villages realtor to get clarification. Thanks everyone.

Travelingal702 07-19-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1974948)
The house doesnt meet your requirements, and never will. Suck it up and move.

There is NO excuse for RUDENESS!!

VApeople 07-19-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by trek8000 (Post 1975355)
Sounds like I need to have another discussion with my villages realtor to get clarification.

Sounds like you should first determine if your realtor knows all of the exact rules or just wants to sell you a house.

rogerk 07-19-2021 01:28 PM

I live in a Veranda home and I believe the 7 foot easement relates to “permanent “ installation not plants. Have You personally talked to the folks at Deed Compliance or are you relying on second hand information?

Rose Ann Vinci Igoe 07-19-2021 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistymom (Post 1974805)
We recently bought a Veranda home that we love. One of the reasons we bought a Veranda was because we thought we would have more privacy from our neighbors. This is true, however the six foot vinyl fence is 11 feet from our lanai. I first thought that we could create an island with plants to help hide the ugly fence. I just found out that there is a 7 foot variance that prohibits us from doing anything except plant grass. That leaves us with 4 feet of "our" property. The door of the lanai opens into that area also.
We moved from a house with a beautiful back yard and this situation is very disappointing!
We don't want large traditional shrubs crowding our screens. Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you!

Some beautiful growing flowering vines, just place some sm hooks and let them grow. Never heard o 7' variance , unless its part of a "right of way" ... in that case.. that vinyl fence .. had to do a 7' rule too... so depends on where YOUR PROPERTY LINE REALLY IS. i'm thinking, before the vinyl fence was placed, it was placed 3.5' back from Their property line.. then "YOU" would do 3.5' from your property line to get the 7' rule. its not all on you. You really need to clarify this. But I do like the vine idea and its beautiful. win win...thinking too maybe a thin netting you can place on the vinyl that vines can crawl all over the place.

nick demis 07-19-2021 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistymom (Post 1974805)
We recently bought a Veranda home that we love. One of the reasons we bought a Veranda was because we thought we would have more privacy from our neighbors. This is true, however the six foot vinyl fence is 11 feet from our lanai. I first thought that we could create an island with plants to help hide the ugly fence. I just found out that there is a 7 foot variance that prohibits us from doing anything except plant grass. That leaves us with 4 feet of "our" property. The door of the lanai opens into that area also.
We moved from a house with a beautiful back yard and this situation is very disappointing!
We don't want large traditional shrubs crowding our screens. Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you!

On rt 301 just south of Ocala there is a nice yard ornament and art store (don't judge them by the things closest to the road) that you might be able to dress up the fencing on your side.

VApeople 07-19-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose Ann Vinci Igoe (Post 1975388)
Never heard o 7' variance , unless its part of a "right of way"

In our neighborhood of Osceola Hills, we are not allowed to plant anything within ten feet from the back of our property or within five feet from the side of our property.

I had heard that was changed to 7 and 3.5 feet in the areas south of Route 44.

VApeople 07-19-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1975299)
If OP plants grass, what is there to complain about, providing said grass is not invading neighbors property.

People always find something to complain about.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1975299)
ARC would have nothing to rule on.

That is the decision of ARC whether or not they need to rule on something.

vinnyfla 07-19-2021 05:47 PM

Are you sure that includes small plants,
I know there is a variance for birdcage etc.
Why would plants matter in your rear yard that no one can see?

HoosierPa 07-19-2021 06:46 PM

I really don’t know why you would buy a house with almost no back yard if you really want a yard with a big back yard

villagetinker 07-19-2021 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trek8000 (Post 1975355)
Although I am not yet a resident of the villages, I hope to be one day. I am looking at new construction. As you all know, the Courtyard Villas have the enclosed back yard. My realtor has suggested I can plant tall bushes such as Upright Bottle Brush plants along the fence line for added privacy and to soften the look. He did not say anything about planting a certain distance from the fence line. I am now wondering if there are planting restrictions for the newly built homes which are back to back (those without fences). He indicated I can remove the small bushes put there by the builder and replace with taller plants for added privacy. Sounds like I need to have another discussion with my villages realtor to get clarification. Thanks everyone.

IMHO, get it in writing, then do your due diligence by researching the plot (plat) drawing as it will show the lot lines, the build lines, and any right of way lines. The village agents are just that agents FOR THE BUILDER, they do not represent you in any manner.

DaleDivine 07-19-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1975241)
Grass is grass, just as the restrictions state.
No need for ARC at all.

NOT TRUE... I have Zoysia grass and would like St. Augustine, but it is not allowed below 466A in certain areas.

Garywt 07-19-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackhawksFan (Post 1975271)
So you're saying you bought a home where there are rules/regs for nearly everything and you never inquired about do's/don'ts, neighborhood restrictions?

No different than the majority homes.

VApeople 07-19-2021 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1975499)
I have Zoysia grass and would like St. Augustine, but it is not allowed below 466A in certain areas.

In Osceola Hills, we were given Empire Zoysia grass, but two of our neighbors replaced it with St. Augustine.

Two Bills 07-20-2021 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1975499)
NOT TRUE... I have Zoysia grass and would like St. Augustine, but it is not allowed below 466A in certain areas.

So you wouldn't plant that grass, or anything else that is a known restriction.
Unless there is a list of forbidden grasses, and knowing TV there probably is, you plant what is not on the list.
Simple.

Papa_lecki 07-20-2021 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trek8000 (Post 1975355)
Although I am not yet a resident of the villages, I hope to be one day. I am looking at new construction. As you all know, the Courtyard Villas have the enclosed back yard. My realtor has suggested I can plant tall bushes such as Upright Bottle Brush plants along the fence line for added privacy and to soften the look. He did not say anything about planting a certain distance from the fence line. I am now wondering if there are planting restrictions for the newly built homes which are back to back (those without fences). He indicated I can remove the small bushes put there by the builder and replace with taller plants for added privacy. Sounds like I need to have another discussion with my villages realtor to get clarification. Thanks everyone.

There are set backs on all sides of the property with limits on what you can do -
the number of feet of the set back depends on front vs back vs side. It is different for structure vs a bush vs hard scraping.

It also can vary house to house.

For example, you could have the power lines running in your yard, so you can’t plant anything within 7 feet of the back of your property. I would guess, there are set backs along most of the fences.

The realtor will say anything to sell you a house, as said earlier, they work for the builder.

Ptmckiou 07-20-2021 06:42 AM

Variance
 
We have a veranda. The 7’ easement is a building easement for anything permanent like a pool cage. Most small plants are not considered permanent items. The reason for the easement is a French drain that runs the length of the back fence in the Veranda yards for drainage.

Put up trellises which obvious can be removed so not permanent and use big pots under the trellis with bougainvillea to vine up. The multiple trellis will create your false wall filled with flowering vines.

Carlsondm 07-20-2021 06:48 AM

Another option is a trellis that can be leaned against the fence. Then decorate with outdoor rated flowers and boxwood panels. Some cheap columnar plants could be planted to give some sway in the wind. Sway is relaxing. You may have to remove the plants some day, but maybe not.

Why not ask a good landscape company for a quote and proposal for your property. You may be pleasantly surprised.

merrymini 07-20-2021 07:14 AM

Do not ask your realtor. They do not know much about the rules. Go to the source and it may well be that the seven foot line is a builders line. Plants were allowed three feet from the property line but restrictions are different in every new area.

Don5154 07-20-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1974948)
The house doesnt meet your requirements, and never will. Suck it up and move.

Grow up and get a life :bigbow:

Don5154 07-20-2021 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 1975108)
One idea, sell.

Another person that has nothing to say other than to post crap:bigbow: Hope you feel better and have a nice day :ho:

Hackercraft 07-20-2021 08:00 AM

I think you’re misinformed
 
The birdcage around our pool in our veranda has to be 7.5 feet from the walls but the area between the cage and wall is going to be pavers and colored rocks with plantings. No mowing. Trees and shrubs and flowers.

Topspinmo 07-20-2021 08:50 AM

I like the big pots ideas, can be moved and variety of plants can be planted. If ever have to move them they can be moved (which odds are they won’t have to)

I like copper leafs, the easily maintained to what ever size you like, don’t have no thrones, and drops few leaves, and when the do easily picked up. Plus, they are easily started. They will freeze back but comes back bigger and better. Like I said you can easily adjust the height or how wide you want them.

stebooo 07-20-2021 01:12 PM

If it's your fence, I doubt irtslegal. If your neighbors, make a call

Topspinmo 07-20-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stebooo (Post 1975759)
If it's your fence, I doubt irtslegal. If your neighbors, make a call

If it’s between properties only one side his or her’s fence which usually has minimum 1 foot easement?

John41 07-20-2021 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistymom (Post 1974805)
We recently bought a Veranda home that we love. One of the reasons we bought a Veranda was because we thought we would have more privacy from our neighbors. This is true, however the six foot vinyl fence is 11 feet from our lanai. I first thought that we could create an island with plants to help hide the ugly fence. I just found out that there is a 7 foot variance that prohibits us from doing anything except plant grass. That leaves us with 4 feet of "our" property. The door of the lanai opens into that area also.
We moved from a house with a beautiful back yard and this situation is very disappointing!
We don't want large traditional shrubs crowding our screens. Does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you!

Your yard is fenced in from view. Don’t worry about the seven foot easement. One in a million chance TV will need access and then you just have to replant.

JayK! 07-20-2021 03:26 PM

There is expandable fence with artificial greenery on it. Check GardenersSupply.com

Elmartin3 07-20-2021 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1974948)
The house doesnt meet your requirements, and never will. Suck it up and move.

. Another suggestion put up white lattice across the fence and decorate. This is from someone else

pauld315 07-20-2021 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistymom (Post 1975096)
Thank you for all of your great suggestions.

I'm positive about the 7 foot rear easement. I checked with the ARC about putting in shrubs, hardscape and possibly a waterfall before contacting landscapers. I was informed in writing that I would not be allowed to place anything there because the area along the rear fences have a 7 foot property set-back and nothing permanent can be placed or planted there except grass.

Last I checked plants are not permanent. The easement is normally restricted so that you don't build a structure etc and doesn't pertain to things that are easily removed. They probably wouldn't allow a waterfall, but plants ?


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