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These are best positioned, near activity zones, such as club houses major physical activity complexes such as tennis courts or pools. You can get one and start it in two minutes or less
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We never count the amount of lives saved, although our stats can be looked up, we never need the cowboy feeling that most volunteers get, or the volunteer who announces I am here to save your life, which in reality may or may not happen. What we rarely speak of and always hidden in our thoughts, those we couldn’t save, the newborn, infants, drowning children, abused, and the 23 yo in horrific car accident. What I have experienced in TV for close to 20 years, unless the neighbor know the specific address among the 200-400 houses, sleeps in their clothes, even getting 4 doors down takes more than 3 minutes, and that was from a retired EMS. Active event in front of people, different event. 2 am very different outcome |
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Talk with Bob Sjogren at our fire department to get direction before you act. He is the best resource.
robert.sjogren@districtgov.org |
Does anyone have any statistics on the following?
How many times were the AED used in the last five years (broken down by each year)? Of those, how many times did AED arrive before EMS? Where AED arrived first, what were the statistics? Did the patient survive? |
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The survival rate for sudden cardiac arrest in The Villages Fl last year was 44% – about 7 times the national average of only 6%. Contributing to this high survival rate are the many Villagers taking CPR training – over 7,000 in the last five years; and neighborhood CPR/AED programs.” |
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Second neighborhood, new ( younger residents less over 70) 9 years no AEDs in immediate area of 161 houses. 2 deaths non conversion due to length of time. FD on site under 4minutes. Third neighborhood preowned 10-11yo homes, age between 77-98. In our 11 years FD was on property at 2 minutes 51 seconds to our house 3 separate occasions. Neighborhood AED pads were replaced because of expiration. In 11 years the unit arrived after FD, but you have to take into account the volunteers are also in their late 70s-90s. Your question on survival will range differently depending on how far the FD station is. Your last answer shouldn’t be how many survived, but broken down to how many conversions with recovery of 80-100% How many conversions but lack of immediate CPR prior to AED cause irreversible brain damage. Which person linger for days or months before expiration. Last is conversion on site, but expires in the bus or shortly after ED arrival. Your questions at any Medical Facility have accurate stats. From the first second an event starts, to second of CPR start, to length of CPR with AED shock. After each event an in-depth meeting review. In TV, your answers are acquired by Volunteers, which can vary. Each event I have been involved I can accurately give, exact account from my first evaluation to hand off of a responder. I never used “we saved them” because those who return in any older population rarely comeback at 100%. Not because of lack of AED or improper use, but lack of immediate CPR from surviving spouses. It’s important that a unit can arrive, But without immediate CPR on the callers part, end results will always vary. I believe CPR training for all who have a loved one in their home, for those who live alone a medical device to alert responders. The problem in TV is you will hear a good percentage of conversion for survival. But never what percentage actually can function, or how many hours the person expires after the conversion. For some it’s all about I saved them, but no statement , but they died 5 hours later |
Buy New & Refurbished AED Defibrillator At Special Discounted Prices - CalMed
They sell refurnished AEDs at a decent price. When we move in we purchased one and just rolled it into the cost of the home. My wife (and two neighbors) are nurses and none of us are getting any younger. I hope the unit is a waste of our money and we never have to use but I feel the same way about a generator and the air bags in our cars. LOL It was worth the peace of mind... |
How difficult is it to learn CPR?
Where do you take the course? How long does it take? |
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One can have an Active CPR events on 50 occasions, but I can tell you not one is ever the same. I recert every 2 years, at conference, $250 to $400, that has a computerized hands on Annie(old names never go away) The computer gives your depth, and rhythm. It also tells you it’s wrong, to pick up the pace, or slow, increase depth or less. The your patient died is also telling. TV has a large population of retired medical, military, and Leo’s. How many have actual experience no idea, other than class training. As far as how easy, any class you get an experience the true test is actually the event. Because medical are professionals, are require ongoing education, doesn’t make you an expert. Medical personnel knows when someone is struggling, and will announce a takeover switch. Have witnessed switching with a resident, a physician, and even an instructor during an event. The switch is flawless, and not one person is offended in anyway. Sometimes it emotion, lack of hands on, or time limit. |
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On a humorous note, do they still recommend The Bee Gees "Stayin' Alive" as the proper rhythm for chest compressions? I always found that to be funny (in a dark way)... |
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Taught here in The Villages. They have a lot of instructors in each class to make sure you're performing CPR correctly. The manikins even have indicator lights to inform you if your cadence and depth are correct. |
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There are many perspectives on how the community should respond to someone experiencing sudden cardiac arrest. What I can tell you is the Neighbors Saving Neighbors program has broken ground over the last couple of decades in getting an AED brought to cardiac arrest victims in a rapid fashion. This is done by integrating the simultaneous notification of neighbor responders (through Pulse Point or Ready Alert) with the dispatch of emergency services. There are approximately 6000 responders with hundreds of AEDs in many (but not all) of The Villages neighborhoods. Each program is funded and operated by their respective group/neighbors- some as small as a couple dozen, or as many as 1500. Local fire-rescue units do respond quickly, sometimes they arrive before the NSN responders. That is great. Often the NSN responders arrive first. CPR and AED application is used as appropriate no matter who gets there first. There are times when the call isn't actually a cardiac arrest and other times death has occurred well before the 911 call was initiated. Response statistics are reported by TVPS monthly. If you desire more information on NSN Bob Sjogren is the contact. His number is listed above. There are opportunities for CPR/AED training and certification. Martha Mitchell is one of several contacts that provide this great training.
Sumter County is a leader in the country with citizen response to sudden cardiac arrest. They do this with using the Pulse Point app. Community notification of cardiac arrest is becoming available in a growing number of jurisdictions. Locally, Marion County uses Pulse Point. But I do not believe Lake County has it available. Many communities are deploying AEDs and locating them at places where people gather- sports fields, parks and recreational facilities, stadiums, etc. Secure enclosures are available to keep the unit secure and weather proof. Some counties are even assigning AEDs to individuals that agree to respond with them when notified. AEDs are becoming readily accessible for public use so be on the lookout for one. Its kind of like a fire extinguisher...you hope it's never used, but death is almost certain without it. Cost can range from $600-700 for a refurbished unit to near $2000 for a new unit. Want to know how anyone can save a life: https://savestation.ca/blog/save-in-sonoma-valley-ca/ Or, Six Minutes to Live: https://youtu.be/_4XVn8cLZ9M Training is great, but if you don't know what to do just turning on the AED and it will help you through the steps. Calling 911 will give you another opportunity for help as the dispatch personnel are well trained to support you in saving a life. There is still more to do in getting AEDs in public areas around the region. A newly formed group is working to improve education and access. We are Advocates for Early Defibrillation and have been working for about two years to become an effective voice in the importance of being prepared when sudden cardiac arrest strikes. We offer free education and orientation to proper response to sudden cardiac arrest. I encourage you to have your community group or faith organization reach out to us and we will help prepare you for when a friend, family member, or visitor experiences a cardiac arrest. Our Facebook page is: Log into Facebook And our email address is: advocates.4.aeds@gmail.com Kevin Knussman, President Advocates for Early Defibrillation |
It seems a scam to me. When we moved in, the guy down the street with the AED in his yard showed up immediately to collect his $100 and we never heard from him again.
Three years later, my wife had an apparent heart attack (which turned out to be a blood cot). Even though the fire department is less two blocks away and the AED guy half a block, it took 20 minutes for an ambulance to get there (and not the one from the nearby fire station). Nobody ever showed up with an AED. Thank God it wasn't a real heart attack! When the EMT's moved her to the Ambulance, the clot moved to her brain and caused a stroke. They recommended HCA Ocala as the best stroke center. It took them half an hour to get there. It took me 45 minutes. In the emergency room, I asked the receptionist to buzz me in the door. She glared at me and ordered me to sit down and wait my turn. A few minutes later, a face appeared in the window, saw me there and called my name. I found my wife somewhat more coherent than when last I'd seen her, but still stroking out. A guy came up to me and asked permission to administer a clot buster. I said "they didn't do that in the ambulance"? He said no, they were worried about a brain bleed. I asked if they'd scanned for a bleed. They said yes, no bleed , and they could see the clot. I asked them, "Then what the hell are you waiting for!". He said they needed my permission (to save my wife's life!). So I signed a paper and they gave her the clot buster. The effect was almost immediate. And amazingly, she somehow survived an hour or more with a clot in her brain, with no apparent damage today. I credit divine intervention. It certainly had nothing to do with Florida healthcare. WORST I HAVE EVER SEEN in all my 71 years! But I'm sure that guy with the AED in his yard, paid for by his neighbors, will have a much different story to report, on the day of his heart attack |
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