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MikeN 02-05-2025 07:24 AM

Another reason to consider a resale. Some of the new homes don’t have garbage disposal, window screens, fans.

pokeefe45@aol.com 02-05-2025 08:06 AM

The new style of home called 'garden villas' is intended to bring the outside in and the inside out-if I buy one I'll be able to walk directly out my double French doors into my garden area and enjoy true outdoor living-not for everyone but understand-it is a design intent not a cost-cutting measure

Goldwingnut 02-05-2025 08:18 AM

None of the homes had screened rear lanais, not screening the front lanai is normal, many of the homes were complete. Usually the screens are put in a 3-4 weeks before completion, which from watching everyday, would have been a few weeks ago.

Let's take a short trip down reality road, or at least the the building materials rows at Lowes and Home Depot. Compared to 5 years ago (pre-covid) prices are 2, 3, or 4 times what they were for wood, drywall, etc., even the cost of paint has nearly doubled. All these prices increases to are passed down to the buyer in the form of higher prices for the home. They (the builder) has 2 choices, charge higher prices for the homes or cut less needed/used items. It is obvious that the latter is the path chosen.

ByebyeMichigan 02-05-2025 08:39 AM

“Garden” homes. They’re not cottage homes. Totally different.

ByebyeMichigan 02-05-2025 08:40 AM

Across the street. OP not taking about the cottage homes there …

Bwanajim 02-05-2025 08:48 AM

Screening
 
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2406970)
Would anyone seriously consider buying a home without Lanai screening? I watched the latest Goldwingnut video and it appears they are building homes without Lanai screens on smaller lots! Hopefully they can figure out the mosquitoes in such an unlivable spot of the home.
Can they really cost that much to put in?

if you're not glassing in your lanai, which I don't understand why people do, you definitely need screening!!!

Driller703 02-05-2025 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HIgolfers (Post 2407018)
When we built our home 7 years ago we told them to leave screens off because we were going to enclose our lanai, which we did right away. Saw no reason to rip screens out.

Why would anyone rip the screens out? There are many days and evenings that are great to enjoy the breezes with the glass sliders open.

rsmurano 02-05-2025 09:28 AM

It’s way north of $20k for windows for your lanai unless it’s a very small lanai or you want to go cheap and put in plexiglass or single pane windows

lawgolfer 02-05-2025 10:00 AM

To Each His Own
 
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2406970)
Would anyone seriously consider buying a home without Lanai screening? I watched the latest Goldwingnut video and it appears they are building homes without Lanai screens on smaller lots! Hopefully they can figure out the mosquitoes in such an unlivable spot of the home.

Can they really cost that much to put in?

I golf a minimum of 4X/wk on the championship courses and have seen thousands of lanais close up. The number of times I have seen a homeowner using his/her lanai is minimal. I have probably seen 10 homeowners or contractors cleaning the lanai, pool, or spa for every homeowner actually using the lanai. They look nice, but just aren't used.

With that thought in mind, when we did an extensive remodel of our home, we converted the lanai to another room of the house. We removed the sliding glass door between the house and the lanai; framed the opening; removed the screening etc; poured concrete to raise the floor of the lanai to match the floor of the house; added a knee wall that was under the area covered by the house's roof; framed above the knee wall; added regular windows in the new wall; laid flooring matching the rest of the house; added a mini-split heat/air; and, added a door in the new exterior wall leading to a small patio for access to our gas grill.

We now have a new large, "family" room in our house and a TV theater which is the most used room in the house, compared to a lanai which was seldom used.

As lanais are not included in the square footage of the house for purposes of the county's property tax, while our new room is, there was a minor increase in our taxes.

DrMack 02-05-2025 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2407221)
It’s way north of $20k for windows for your lanai unless it’s a very small lanai or you want to go cheap and put in plexiglass or single pane windows

Our neighbors paid 27K to glass in their lanai. There are a few expenses I would think of before even considering glassing in a garden area lanai. Our musts were home water filters, a softener, blinds, and the garage floor when we moved in. Those costs were about 12 thousand. We had to wait on a couple of these because of contractors so there is some timing inconvenience. I don’t think I would consider a home move-in ready without screening here in Florida.

dougawhite 02-05-2025 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lawgolfer (Post 2407234)
I golf a minimum of 4X/wk on the championship courses and have seen thousands of lanais close up. The number of times I have seen a homeowner using his/her lanai is minimal. I have probably seen 10 homeowners or contractors cleaning the lanai, pool, or spa for every homeowner actually using the lanai. They look nice, but just aren't used.

With that thought in mind, when we did an extensive remodel of our home, we converted the lanai to another room of the house. We removed the sliding glass door between the house and the lanai; framed the opening; removed the screening etc; poured concrete to raise the floor of the lanai to match the floor of the house; added a knee wall that was under the area covered by the house's roof; framed above the knee wall; added regular windows in the new wall; laid flooring matching the rest of the house; added a mini-split heat/air; and, added a door in the new exterior wall leading to a small patio for access to our gas grill.

We now have a new large, "family" room in our house and a TV theater which is the most used room in the house, compared to a lanai which was seldom used.

As lanais are not included in the square footage of the house for purposes of the county's property tax, while our new room is, there was a minor increase in our taxes.

We did the exact same thing to our screened lanai. We absolutely love the added square footage of home and that room looks over a golf course and pond, so it's beautiful. We didn't put in a mini-split; instead we added extensions to our 18 year old regular A/C system and changed out the whole unit for one that is 1/2 ton more capacity.
We do pay close to $1,000 more in taxes per year, but it's worth it.

J1ceasar 02-05-2025 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2407221)
It’s way north of $20k for windows for your lanai unless it’s a very small lanai or you want to go cheap and put in plexiglass or single pane windows

I have single pane and I would save maybe $20 a month in electricity or gas so the extra $10,000 doesn't really matter to me or make any sense. It's perfectly comfortable with single pain,
Not everyone is a millionaire in The villages or elsewhere here

TVTVTV 02-05-2025 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2407038)
In the last 10 minutes, we've had "no lights" in the tunnels and now, no screens on lanais and smaller lots.

Sounds like someone is pinching pennies down south. Personally, I'm shocked that costs saving are rampant!

Pinching pennies is right! Spec houses don't even come with blinds anymore. That is one thing I really appreciated. I know some changes them out, but it would be an additional burden to have to shop for all the window coverings.They are really cheapening homes - the same model names are quite different and much cheaply done in niceties from 5 years ago.

village dreamer 02-05-2025 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=BrianL99;2407038]In the last 10 minutes, we've had "no lights" in the tunnels and now, no screens on lanais and smaller lots.

Sounds like someone is pinching pennies down south. Personally, I'm shocked that costs saving are rampant![/QUOTE . years ago all homes came with fans, window shades, vertical blinds , washer and dryer. and no flowers in the round abouts. everything cost.


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