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OrangeBlossomBaby 07-26-2019 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1667616)
:1rotfl: Thank God that First Responders know that is NOT the case! If a Fire Dept. rig get dispatched on a 2nd. or 3rd. alarm etc. they know they are still First Responders. If an ambulance crew calls for an ALS unit it will show up with 1st. responders on it. If an evidence tech shows up at a crime 15 minutes after it happens he/she is still a first responder.

:ohdear: Let's NOT over think this! ..... And " it's shorter and fits better on a sign" is NO reason to name anything! IMHO

From Wikipedia:
" It has been reported that over 1,400 9/11 rescue workers who responded to the scene in the days and months after the attacks have since died."

They deserve a nod. First responders are the ones who show up first. They're not always the ones that do the rescuing, they're not always the ones that put the fire out, they're not always the ones who catch the bad guy. They are the ones who show up first. ALL rescue workers, from the first to the last, deserve to be honored.

Marathon Man 07-26-2019 07:24 PM

I don't get it. I just don't get it. Someone decided to honor a group of people that risk their lives everyday so that our lives are better and safer. And there are those that find a way to find fault with it. Un-feaking-believable.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-26-2019 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brucernelson (Post 1667236)
Any comments on the proposed new recreation center? They had the first meeting yesterday to go over the preliminary proposal and to get residents input. It will probably be 6 months before they arrive at the final design and costs and then another year and a half to two years to build. They. Included a putt and play course in the proposal but I’m hoping they change it to pitch and putt. Not quite sure why they included a corn hole area. The preliminary proposal calls for a resort pool similar to Fenney and platform tennis. There was even someone there from a fire department offering to display their antique fire engine at the center. It should be an interesting process.

The reason there are people commenting about it is because the OP asked, in the very first sentence, if there were any comments. The OP went on to explain that resident input is being requested.

If anyone objects to people discussing topics of interest, in a thread that is very expressly about the *discussion* of the topic, and requesting input and opinions about the topic, then why would you read past the very first post in the thread where you discover that is exactly what the thread is about?

Or maybe some people just prefer criticizing the posters, instead of discussing topics.

JoMar 07-26-2019 10:31 PM

If you read the posts there were multiple explanations that repeatedly clarified the rec center.....yet, people asked the same questions multiple times. I guess that means those posting don't read, don't comprehend, have a retention issue or just want to stir the pot.

Bogie Shooter 07-27-2019 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1667790)
The reason there are people commenting about it is because the OP asked, in the very first sentence, if there were any comments. The OP went on to explain that resident input is being requested.

If anyone objects to people discussing topics of interest, in a thread that is very expressly about the *discussion* of the topic, and requesting input and opinions about the topic, then why would you read past the very first post in the thread where you discover that is exactly what the thread is about?

Or maybe some people just prefer criticizing the posters, instead of discussing topics.

Resident input in a formal setting......not on social media.

Taltarzac725 07-27-2019 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1667815)
Resident input in a formal setting......not on social media.

Which would probably get the same question about the First Responders Recreation Center. This sounds like it is for their use which is a very good idea if really showing that you care for these people. Rather than than just putting some words on a building.

And there are a lot of first responders in the Villages' area.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-27-2019 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucernelson (Post 1667236)
Any comments on the proposed new recreation center? They had the first meeting yesterday to go over the preliminary proposal and to get residents input. It will probably be 6 months before they arrive at the final design and costs and then another year and a half to two years to build. They. Included a putt and play course in the proposal but I’m hoping they change it to pitch and putt. Not quite sure why they included a corn hole area. The preliminary proposal calls for a resort pool similar to Fenney and platform tennis. There was even someone there from a fire department offering to display their antique fire engine at the center. It should be an interesting process.

Not sure why that first sentence is being missed. But there it is again, for those who are actually interested in discussing the topic, rather than criticizing people who are discussing the topic (or cherry-picking partial sentences to take posts out of context in an attempt to criticize the people who are discussing the topic).

Lottoguy 07-27-2019 09:15 AM

It was estimated at the meeting it would be at least two years before this recreation center will be open.

THE VILLAGES - First Responders Rec Center Introduced - YouTube

Velvet 07-27-2019 09:16 AM

I read the OP the same way too. Why ask for comments if you don’t want any?

Garywt 07-27-2019 11:59 AM

I believe the post was a report of what was going in, the name was decided a while ago.

The mini golf is nice for all the people that do not play golf and anyone can do that. A pitch and putt would be for golfers mostly.

I am disappointed that I do not see a lazy river or hot tubs which were talked about a lot during the survey online.

I like the pool though.

Serenoa 07-27-2019 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1667677)
Have you ever tried to run on a Great Lakes beach? It's much harder on your body because it is not a flat surface and gives in different ways with each footfall.

Why would anyone want to run on a Great Lakes beach when we have real ocean beaches here in Florida? :):) I'm 66 yrs old and have been playing beach volleyball since I was a teenager, with absolutely no injuries or problems. Like I said before, shuffleboard & bocce ball don't interest me at all, but I've never complained on here about TV including them at every rec center. If a certain sport or activity doesn't appeal to someone, that's fine. But don't come on here & complain that TV shouldn't include them for those that do.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-27-2019 08:53 PM

I'll definitely look forward to the Putt & Play, since I'm not a golfer but get a kick out of miniature golf.

Taltarzac725 07-27-2019 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1668023)
I'll definitely look forward to the Putt & Play, since I'm not a golfer but get a kick out of miniature golf.

This Recreational Center will not be very far from my location --Lynnhaven-- so that is a plus. The Putt & Play also something I might use also not being a golfer. I did bowl a bit.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-27-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1668026)
This Recreational Center will not be very far from my location --Lynnhaven-- so that is a plus. The Putt & Play also something I might use also not being a golfer. I did bowl a bit.

Awesome! I'm a former bowler, some joint trouble in my hip and knees made it difficult so I had to give it up. I might return to it though, and just lighten to an 11 pound ball instead of 13.

CFrance 07-28-2019 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1667993)
Why would anyone want to run on a Great Lakes beach when we have real ocean beaches here in Florida? :):) I'm 66 yrs old and have been playing beach volleyball since I was a teenager, with absolutely no injuries or problems. Like I said before, shuffleboard & bocce ball don't interest me at all, but I've never complained on here about TV including them at every rec center. If a certain sport or activity doesn't appeal to someone, that's fine. But don't come on here & complain that TV shouldn't include them for those that do.

So you grew up in Florida? Perhaps with tide going out, sand is harder and easier on the back. We didn't all grow up here.


There's a sand volleyball court at Sea Breeze on Buena Vista.

thelegges 07-28-2019 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1667993)
Why would anyone want to run on a Great Lakes beach when we have real ocean beaches here in Florida? :):) I'm 66 yrs old and have been playing beach volleyball since I was a teenager, with absolutely no injuries or problems. Like I said before, shuffleboard & bocce ball don't interest me at all, but I've never complained on here about TV including them at every rec center. If a certain sport or activity doesn't appeal to someone, that's fine. But don't come on here & complain that TV shouldn't include them for those that do.

We run on Great Lakes beaches because that’s where some of us were raised. At least we had beaches to run on, with spectacular views. Since TV doesn’t have a beach to run on, I just stick with the pavement here. The sand court at Seabreeze is well maintained, and sometimes hard to get a slot. A new sand court will be much appreciated.

LuvtheVillages 07-28-2019 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1668026)
This Recreational Center will not be very far from my location --Lynnhaven-- so that is a plus. The Putt & Play also something I might use also not being a golfer. I did bowl a bit.


I think the Developer left himself open to an ADA lawsuit by not having accessible parking at the Fenney putt and play. They could make up for that by having this putt and play course.

Rich42 07-29-2019 06:27 AM

Why would anyone question the installation of corn hole at the new rec center? There are many in TV but not one single one north of Rt. 466! I have sent several emails to John Rohan (and his staff) about why they won't put a few "up north" and have yet to even get the courtesy of a reply! There are dozens of horse shoe pits that are very rarely used. A few of them could easily be converted to corn hole. Lets do it please!

csiebold 07-29-2019 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages (Post 1667282)
I won't dispute that first responders deserve a place for rest and relaxation. However, this is not it. This rec center is being named in their honor. It is for use by Villagers, not first responders.

For a retired first responder I think a ref center in honor of them would be great. I also know there are several other police and fire residents that live here.

Taltarzac725 07-29-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by csiebold (Post 1668293)
For a retired first responder I think a ref center in honor of them would be great. I also know there are several other police and fire residents that live here.

A lot more than several retired law enforcement, paramedics and fire fighting personnel. Some are on here quite frequently.

Topspinmo 07-29-2019 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucernelson (Post 1667636)
Never thought my post would go in this direction.

They usually do.

Topspinmo 07-29-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1668038)
So you grew up in Florida? Perhaps with tide going out, sand is harder and easier on the back. We didn't all grow up here.


There's a sand volleyball court at Sea Breeze on Buena Vista.

Chula Vista has sand volleyball, rarely used

Cranford61 07-29-2019 08:20 AM

Why not name it Hero’s? Is there a second responder? A third responder? Also First Responder doesn’t flow eloquently

windylou 07-29-2019 09:38 AM

Naming it First Responders will certainly be confusing ... but it can still be something to honor them
by the things inside....Maybe Freedom Rec Center ??? Or other suggestions ???
And how do we get these thoughts to the people who determine every thing ??

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-29-2019 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Cranford61 (Post 1668336)
Why not name it Hero’s? Is there a second responder? A third responder? Also First Responder doesn’t flow eloquently

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Originally Posted by windylou (Post 1668377)
Naming it First Responders will certainly be confusing ... but it can still be something to honor them
by the things inside....Maybe Freedom Rec Center ??? Or other suggestions ???
And how do we get these thoughts to the people who determine every thing ??

These are some very valid thoughts, I feel.

First Responder refers to a whole lot of people who are/would be the first people to show up at any emergency. It's basically a generic catch-all term for a category.

The people who fall into that category absolutely positively need to be recognized and appreciated. But "First Responders Rec Center" just sounds really weird and as the first few pages in this thread have proven, makes some people think the rec center is being built and set aside specifically for First Responders to use.

People who are new to the Villages after that rec center is up and running, who might drive past the building and see "First Responders Recreation Center" on the sign, might think "oh - well I'm not one of those, so I'll have to find a different rec center to visit." and might not check any further than that. The sign tells them all they think they need to know.

There are many people even on this forum, who will accept what they read as fact, simply because they read it. Why would anyone expect any different, with regards to a sign on building?

Using the word "Memorial" in the title would clarify for anyone reading the sign, that it's not for the exclusive use of that category of people. But First Responders Memorial Recreation Center is, as I said before, pretty long-winded (sort of like me).

You don't like seeing a lot of words in a post when you're sitting down reading posts...imagine how annoyed you'd be reading all those words on a sign that exists just to let you know where you are.

ColdNoMore 07-29-2019 10:26 AM

Responders Appreciation Center. :ho:

Bogie Shooter 07-29-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by windylou (Post 1668377)
Naming it First Responders will certainly be confusing ... but it can still be something to honor them
by the things inside....Maybe Freedom Rec Center ??? Or other suggestions ???
And how do we get these thoughts to the people who determine every thing ??

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fw102807 07-29-2019 10:55 AM

First Responders identify as First Responders here and everywhere else. The day you risk your life running into a burning building or an active shooting scene or show up to clean up the carnage at an accident scene you can call yourself whatever you want. People will figure it out.

Velvet 07-29-2019 11:07 AM

‘Memorial’ sounds like they’re dead what about ‘In honor of’ - so what if the name is long, we can call it by an acronym or nick name.

hessej1095 07-29-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucernelson (Post 1667236)
Any comments on the proposed new recreation center? They had the first meeting yesterday to go over the preliminary proposal and to get residents input. It will probably be 6 months before they arrive at the final design and costs and then another year and a half to two years to build. They. Included a putt and play course in the proposal but I’m hoping they change it to pitch and putt. Not quite sure why they included a corn hole area. The preliminary proposal calls for a resort pool similar to Fenney and platform tennis. There was even someone there from a fire department offering to display their antique fire engine at the center. It should be an interesting process.

I do not think we need another dog park. Dog’s have enough now. We don’t need the smell etc

BostonRich 07-29-2019 11:24 AM

I think the plan is pretty good. I too do like the Putt & Play. My wife and I do not play golf but we will definitely play this. I like the walking trail although the exercise equipment is not mentioned. I think that would be good to add.

The one other addition I would like to see is a dog park. You know people will be bringing their dogs there and then there becomes the ad hoc unauthorized doggie area where the dogs will be pooping and peeing. Afterall people have been letting their dogs run free on the property for years. There certainly is room looking at the plan for a dog park and it would be appreciated by dog owners and non-owners alike.

There was a suggestion for a snack bar. If we don't get a food vendor of some kind in there at least a soft serve ice cream/beverage bar would be good.

And just an observation. The parking lot is way oversized and the expense to maintain it will be unnecessarily high. It seems like the platform tennis could be built on the southern end and that would allow more space for other sports activities, dog park or other.

And above all please put some shade trees all over the place to protect us from the sun. This is Florida ya know!

MzzJodi 07-29-2019 12:48 PM

First Responders proposed Rec center
 
Just wondering why no pickleball courts. Not sure but would guess golf in The Villages #1 activity. Pickleball #2?

Bigben007 07-29-2019 04:39 PM

Younger crowd
 
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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1667499)
How could soft sand be any harder on the knees than a pickleball or tennis court? Shuffleboard & bocce ball are "old person's sports" and don't appeal to me at all. Sand volleyball & sand tennis DO.

Sand volleyball may appear to a younger crowd and The Villages are on top of it. I know two couples moving to Marsh Bend, 53 and 48 years old.

playfair 07-29-2019 07:58 PM

We really need a FAMILY pool here every day of the week. There are not enough family pools north of 466 and there are plenty of adult pools.

golf2140 07-29-2019 08:15 PM

All I can say of some of the responses. WOW

Garywt 07-29-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by windylou (Post 1668377)
Naming it First Responders will certainly be confusing ... but it can still be something to honor them
by the things inside....Maybe Freedom Rec Center ??? Or other suggestions ???
And how do we get these thoughts to the people who determine every thing ??

What is confusing, trying to understand. Also I believe the name is already set and it is just the activities that are up for discussion.

Garywt 07-29-2019 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RAAndre (Post 1668402)
I think the plan is pretty good. I too do like the Putt & Play. My wife and I do not play golf but we will definitely play this. I like the walking trail although the exercise equipment is not mentioned. I think that would be good to add.

The one other addition I would like to see is a dog park. You know people will be bringing their dogs there and then there becomes the ad hoc unauthorized doggie area where the dogs will be pooping and peeing. Afterall people have been letting their dogs run free on the property for years. There certainly is room looking at the plan for a dog park and it would be appreciated by dog owners and non-owners alike.

There was a suggestion for a snack bar. If we don't get a food vendor of some kind in there at least a soft serve ice cream/beverage bar would be good.

And just an observation. The parking lot is way oversized and the expense to maintain it will be unnecessarily high. It seems like the platform tennis could be built on the southern end and that would allow more space for other sports activities, dog park or other.

And above all please put some shade trees all over the place to protect us from the sun. This is Florida ya know!

Not sure another dog park is needed. If people are going there to swim, play mini golf or tennis etc the dog should be left home in the AC.

Lottoguy 07-30-2019 08:49 AM

There are many pickleball courts in The Villages. The closest platform tennis is at Seabreeze and many of those people have been wanting more courts for them. I hope they get it. I would hate to be a house next to a pickleboard court. That sound all day would drive me nuts!

island05 07-30-2019 02:45 PM

Great - another facility that caters to kids -- just what we don't need. We are so short of pool facilities in the North end of The Villages, and now this new center will have only a family pool. Really frustrated that kids are priority in a senior community.

Garywt 07-31-2019 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by island05 (Post 1668716)
Great - another facility that caters to kids -- just what we don't need. We are so short of pool facilities in the North end of The Villages, and now this new center will have only a family pool. Really frustrated that kids are priority in a senior community.

There are 2 adult pools 1/4 to 1/2 mile away in either direction so putting in a family pool, especially a zero entry one will be good. Not sure where you live but we have at least 2, maybe more adult pools closer than the current closest family pool.


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