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larrycrilley@gmail.com 08-19-2021 06:48 AM
Unsafe Utility Cover
 
This is the wrong choice of cover for that underground facility. You need to find out which utility installed it and let them know it is a safety hazard.
I am certain a work permit was issued by local or county authorities. They can tell you who the owner is and force them to bring it up to code. The permit should state the completed work site is to be left in a safe condition.
Most of this type of work is contracted to a third party vendor. The utility might not even be aware this substandard unsafe work was completed in this manner.
The owner could be electric, gas, cable, or water. Once you can confirm the owner they can be notified.

La lamy 08-19-2021 07:21 AM
Agreed, that's a really dangerous tripping hazard.

DaleDivine 08-19-2021 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 1991140)
Belvedere, O’Dell, Bailey, St Charles, Moyer, Hillsborough just to name a few
Pinellas place from Morse to Pinellas Plaza...
:bigbow:

DaleDivine 08-19-2021 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1991121)
On O'Dell walkers VERY OFTEN just step out into the diamond lane (often while talking on their cell phone) ignoring golf cart traffic so they don't have to pass too close to another person walking in the opposite direction on the sidewalk. That started with the pandemic. Never experienced it before that. That's why I now keep my cell phone on a mount on my GC windshield most of the time running video when driving between my home and Mallory CC (about 1.5miles) because one idiot stepped out right in front of me and I had to swerve into the road to avoid killing him. Fortunately there wasn't a car on the roadway. I thought I was going to flip over I swerved so hard. That's why there are sidewalks for the walkers there. Most areas don't have sidewalks.
That's why I have a verrrry loud horn on my cart...
:popcorn::popcorn:

MandoMan 08-19-2021 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by acornhome (Post 1990806)
This grate was installed behind my home and is a very dangerous tripping hazard for all walkers. Anyone know whom I should contact to rectify the situation? Thx.
How do I politely and respectfully say that people should walk with their eyes open and pick up their feet when they are walking? We walk on streets that have little bumps and cracks and sometimes sewer grates. We dodge cars parked on the street now and then, and water sprinklers, and Sandhill cranes out for a stroll. In my neighborhood there are height differences bigger than that between sections of the cart path on the golf course. This is not a big deal. Have you ever walked over the giant grates in NYC? The margins between my carpet and my tile offer a better way to trip than those tiny hinges.

Aces4 08-19-2021 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 1991246)
How do I politely and respectfully say that people should walk with their eyes open and pick up their feet when they are walking? We walk on streets that have little bumps and cracks and sometimes sewer grates. We dodge cars parked on the street now and then, and water sprinklers, and Sandhill cranes out for a stroll. In my neighborhood there are height differences bigger than that between sections of the cart path on the golf course. This is not a big deal. Have you ever walked over the giant grates in NYC? The margins between my carpet and my tile offer a better way to trip than those tiny hinges.

This is a perfect example why this cover needs to be changed. They are not tiny little hinges, there is a locking machanism and a handle which weren’t even noticed by the poster. There is a law barring sidewalk encumbrances for a reason.

Ken D. 08-19-2021 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1990910)
What part of The Villages has sidewalks?? None in my area.
Every main road i.e. Canal, Odell, Pinellas, etc. have sidewalks

Bill14564 08-19-2021 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 1991246)
How do I politely and respectfully say that people should walk with their eyes open and pick up their feet when they are walking? We walk on streets that have little bumps and cracks and sometimes sewer grates. We dodge cars parked on the street now and then, and water sprinklers, and Sandhill cranes out for a stroll. In my neighborhood there are height differences bigger than that between sections of the cart path on the golf course. This is not a big deal. Have you ever walked over the giant grates in NYC? The margins between my carpet and my tile offer a better way to trip than those tiny hinges.
You are right about the hazards that exist and that walkers should be aware of their surroundings. However, that does not excuse intentionally introducing a tripping hazard where a smooth path should be expected.

The hinges are an issue for those walking but are even more of an issue for bicycles.

The locking mechanism is more of an obstruction than the hinges but the lock that should eventually be added will be even worse.

Simply not the right type of cover to be placed on a sidewalk. Thank you to the OP or whoever reports it and asks that it be replaced.

Carlsondm 08-19-2021 09:36 AM
I swerve for people and kids, but not always .. squirrels.

HORNET 08-19-2021 10:31 AM
There is a lot of sidewalks in The Villages

HORNET 08-19-2021 10:32 AM
Remember, the North won the war!

Chi-Town 08-19-2021 10:40 AM
You have 53 homes on a dead end street. Walk down Belvedere one day; you'll be on a sidelwalk.

I'm Popeye! 08-19-2021 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1990914)
Where is this sidewalk?

Quote from an article in the online news about sidewalks in The Villages, Fl.

"To the Editor:

We have just read the tragic story of a golf cart driver who died after swerving into traffic to avoid a pedestrian who was walking on the roadway. Why wasn’t that pedestrian walking on the sidewalk? Oh, that’s right – there are no sidewalks in most (any?) Villages! One can only wonder if the Developer decided against sidewalks because they would reduce the area available for cramming in more housing units.

This tragic result was inevitable and will probably be repeated in the future.

It may not be possible to retrofit existing properties with sidewalks (although that is a good idea), but there is no excuse for not putting them into new developments."
Adding sidewalk gets Dogs closer to your front door... :popcorn:

I'm Popeye! 08-19-2021 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 1990911)
That's what happens when you hire minimum wage with minimal training and limited supervisory / mgmt oversight
So then, Who's at fault:
A) The Villages
B) The Contractor, supervising and allowing this awful work as per The Villages building regulations.
C) The Worker who is going by contractor's order and materials.

EdFNJ 08-19-2021 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 1991152)
Concrete cost big money and can easily add one or $2,000 to the price of a house if you have a sidewalk. That's why many townships will repair the sidewalk and then add it to the tax bill over a number of years
Yes, that and the homeowner is responsible for any sidewalk repairs in front of their property. (Not sure about HERE but that is how it was in NJ).


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