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Fraugoofy 10-03-2017 07:50 PM

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xNYer 10-03-2017 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=Fraugoofy;1456969]Do you know anyone under the age of 70? I bet people who know how to use the internet, Alexa, Blue Apron, Google Express, and just about any big box store app order online...I don't know many people who shop in grocery stores!

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The vast majority of grocery shopping still takes place in traditional brick-and mortar stores. But according to industry experts, this pattern may change during the next decades. More and more tech-savvy retailers now offer grocery delivery options for their customers in the United States. Like the milk man used to do in the past, retailers bring food items right to your doorstep. As of 2016, some 5 percent of U.S. consumers preferred shopping for groceries online. In total, U.S. online grocery sales amounted to about 7 billion U.S. dollars in 2015 and are expected to rise to 18 billion U.S. dollars by 2020.

graciegirl 10-03-2017 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1456969)
Do you know anyone under the age of 70? I bet people who know how to use the internet, Alexa, Blue Apron, Google Express, and just about any big box store app order online...I don't know many people who shop in grocery stores!

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I know lots of people under 70. Interesting folks too, some very successful and busy and they all go to the grocery store. Now they may buy more pre prepared foods than they used to.

I am interested in the statistics between online grocery shoppers and cart pushers. I may be surprised.

Not exactly what I was searching for but interesting. Grocery shopping by income;

• Grocery shopping: U.S. households' frequency by income 2017 | Survey

I shop for many other items much more frequently online than going to brick and mortar stores.

Fraugoofy 10-03-2017 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1456991]I know lots of people under 70. Interesting folks too, some very successful and busy and they all go to the grocery store. Now they may buy more pre prepared foods than they used to.

I am interested in the statistics between online grocery shoppers and cart pushers. I may be surprised.

Not exactly what I was searching for but interesting. Grocery shopping by income;

• Grocery shopping: U.S. households' frequency by income 2017 | Survey

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justjim 10-03-2017 09:37 PM

Not 80%
 
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1456968)
Take a look at when you go to the grocery store 80% of what you pick up doesn’t take much thought process. It might just be the younger generation doesn’t want to waste time but reality is there a lot of people online grocery shopping you just don’t realize it

I will agree there are people shopping for groceries on-line but 80% is way out of line. We spend our summer in a city a bit larger than The Villages with a large number of young adults. I see many of them in the grocery shopping just like my wife and me. Many are shopping for bargains on a limited budget.

When you shop on line, have your food delivered or pick it up at the grocery you pay for that service. How many can afford it? How many visit the food pantries every week? How many have incomes low enough to still qualify for food stamps? Are they getting groceries delivered to them?

Bottom line 80% in my humble opinion isn't close to the correct number. Sorry we are off the Thread subject.

affald 10-03-2017 10:00 PM

Online grocery shopping is about 5%, U.S. consumers: Online Grocery Shopping - Statistics & Facts | Statista

Expected to be 20% by 2025

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/onli...t-by-2025.html

JoMar 10-03-2017 10:06 PM

I guess we think they put in online capability just because....I suggest there is a marketing department that does the market research on this stuff and they must believe there is a market here for that service. Not everyone that shops in the stores here live here.....most actually work here. Publix has an online service, though currently limited, but you can go online, order and pickup in the store. Deli stuff, party platters etc are available online. Then of course, as mentioned before Blue Apron serves a wide market, we have friends here that use that service and of course, the giant in the room, Amazon is building that side of their business. It may not suit us, we may not trust it, we may not have the capability.....but there is a market out there and it must be lucrative because there are a lot of heavy hitters entering.

perrjojo 10-04-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1456959)
I don't know one person that orders groceries online and no one I've talked to knows anyone that orders groceries online. Maybe someone saw a movie about someone ordering online and it's now etched in their mind that it's reality. 80%, I don't think so.

I just ordered from Publix yesterday. Free delivery in less than one hour. The produce was beautiful and the order was perfect.

HimandMe 10-04-2017 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1438686)
I think it will be a plus. I have learned since moving to The Villages that a lot of people haven't grown up with Walmart and some even have a prejudice against Walmart.

They have huge buying power and often you can find items much less expensive than anywhere. This draws people who have always watched their money and those who must watch their not much money.

Yep. I like Walmart.

I digress from the OP but to reply to this...

I enjoyed as a young person all the individual mom and pop shops for their variety. Now wherever you go it's the same old Walmart or same stores in strip mall with whatever the few buyers chose by comparison. Some prices were higher and it was surprising how some shops bought style goods in for reasonable prices. I liked the choices. With more individuals in small businesses, the little guy had mores chances to make a decent living rather than a few at the top and the majority near minimum wage. IMHO, we were better off even with perhaps paying a little more. Yes there were pros AND cons but I truly believe this.

Villager Joyce 10-04-2017 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1457108)
I just ordered from Publix yesterday. Free delivery in less than one hour. The produce was beautiful and the order was perfect.

What type of items did you order? Which Publix?

Madelaine Amee 10-04-2017 09:08 AM

Aging in Place
 
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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1457108)
I just ordered from Publix yesterday. Free delivery in less than one hour. The produce was beautiful and the order was perfect.

This is really interesting and I would like to see you expand what you know about doing this, i.e. what website, how do you order, how do you know sizes to order etc. etc. My interest in this is due to the burgeoning interest in people "Aging in Place" which is a fast growing network of people living right here in TV., as well as across the country. The more we know about online living and ordering, the more it will help people who have no intention of leaving their homes until they have to do so.

Your input and information could be invaluable to people who cannot get to the store, but that still remain in their home!

Madelaine Amee 10-04-2017 09:17 AM

I order International foods on line, but for me it is to get foods that I cannot get locally. It is also expensive. The shipping is a killer and the only way to get around shipping is to order a large amount of items. I shop with two places that will give you free shipping over $100 in purchases. For the items I buy in bulk and freeze, I am prepared to pay, but for average grocery items I still shop my stores.

I think income, time and lifestyle would have an impact on ordering on line from a normal local market.

SouthOfTheBorder 10-04-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1457157)
This is really interesting and I would like to see you expand what you know about doing this, i.e. what website, how do you order, how do you know sizes to order etc. etc. My interest in this is due to the burgeoning interest in people "Aging in Place" which is a fast growing network of people living right here in TV., as well as across the country. The more we know about online living and ordering, the more it will help people who have no intention of leaving their homes until they have to do so.

Your input and information could be invaluable to people who cannot get to the store, but that still remain in their home!

Sign up here:


Publix Super Markets Grocery Delivery

:icon_hungry:

Don

Madelaine Amee 10-04-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HimandMe (Post 1457122)
I digress from the OP but to reply to this...

I enjoyed as a young person all the individual mom and pop shops for their variety. Now wherever you go it's the same old Walmart or same stores in strip mall with whatever the few buyers chose by comparison. Some prices were higher and it was surprising how some shops bought style goods in for reasonable prices. I liked the choices. With more individuals in small businesses, the little guy had mores chances to make a decent living rather than a few at the top and the majority near minimum wage. IMHO, we were better off even with perhaps paying a little more. Yes there were pros AND cons but I truly believe this.

I agree with you on small businesses and I miss them. From living and working overseas I miss the butcher, having a baker and a vegetable store. You got to know the owner and they got to know you, but how many of the little business owners can afford the rents nowadays?

Madelaine Amee 10-04-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthOfTheBorder (Post 1457168)
Sign up here:


Publix Super Markets Grocery Delivery

:icon_hungry:

Don

Thank you for this website and information. I am attending a meeting for my immediate area this month to discuss how we can Age in Place and this is great.

jnieman 10-04-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1457108)
I just ordered from Publix yesterday. Free delivery in less than one hour. The produce was beautiful and the order was perfect.

Is it free all the time or just the first order free? Cost?

perrjojo 10-04-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1457128)
What type of items did you order? Which Publix?

I ordered bread, orange juice, broccoli, cilantro, jalapeño, egss and several household cleaning items. The items came to me from the Southren Trace store. There is a one year free delivery on orders over 35.00. There is a small service charge. It’s through
Instacart: Groceries Delivered From Local Stores
I basically tried it for fun but it worked so well that I may continue to use the service. It would be great for someone who no longer drives. You can pick your delivery date and time. Give the Webb site a look. If you want a $10.00 first time order credit PM me. As I said, I really did it for fun but I think it may be useful. I have a homebound friend in Georgia who uses it at Publix there.
Oh, I signed up through an email I got from Publix but they also partner with other businesses

graciegirl 10-04-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HimandMe (Post 1457122)
I digress from the OP but to reply to this...

I enjoyed as a young person all the individual mom and pop shops for their variety. Now wherever you go it's the same old Walmart or same stores in strip mall with whatever the few buyers chose by comparison. Some prices were higher and it was surprising how some shops bought style goods in for reasonable prices. I liked the choices. With more individuals in small businesses, the little guy had mores chances to make a decent living rather than a few at the top and the majority near minimum wage. IMHO, we were better off even with perhaps paying a little more. Yes there were pros AND cons but I truly believe this.

My uncle owned just such a grocery store and I helped there from time to time as a kid. He worked long, long hours and carried many people on credit and didn't make himself rich for sure.

That said, I like to shop in large grocery stores. I love seeing the availability of foods unknown to me and I love trying new things. It gives me ideas and inspires me. I love satisfying my capricious hunger for foods not in season where I live, but I miss having meat and poultry cut for my needs with little fuss.

Henryk 10-04-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1457169)
I agree with you on small businesses and I miss them. From living and working overseas I miss the butcher, having a baker and a vegetable store. You got to know the owner and they got to know you, but how many of the little business owners can afford the rents nowadays?

When Robert and I were in Paris years ago, our hotel on Rue Monge had one of those tiny balconies overlooking the street. From our room I could look up and down the block and see the green grocer, the charcuterie shop, the baker, the fish monger, the meat man, the wine shop and the cheese shop.

I loved going to all of them. The cheese shop, in fact, would ask what kind of wine we were having and then recommend one or two excellent choices to be eaten today--and certainly no later than tomorrow. In Winthrop, outside Boston, three Greek brothers ran a butcher shop a block from our house. I would go in and say, "What am I having for dinner today?" I miss these things.

affald 10-04-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1457204)
When Robert and I were in Paris years ago, our hotel on Rue Monge had one of those tiny balconies overlooking the street. From our room I could look up and down the block and see the green grocer, the charcuterie shop, the baker, the fish monger, the meat man, the wine shop and the cheese shop.

I loved going to all of them. The cheese shop, in fact, would ask what kind of wine we were having and then recommend one or two excellent choices to be eaten today--and certainly no later than tomorrow. In Winthrop, outside Boston, three Greek brothers ran a butcher shop a block from our house. I would go in and say, "What am I having for dinner today?" I miss these things.

There is a remedy.

Henryk 10-04-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1457203)
My uncle owned just such a grocery store and I helped there from time to time as a kid. He worked long, long hours and carried many people on credit and didn't make himself rich for sure.

That said, I like to shop in large grocery stores. I love seeing the availability of foods unknown to me and I love trying new things. It gives me ideas and inspires me. I love satisfying my capricious hunger for foods not in season where I live, but I miss having meat and poultry cut for my needs with little fuss.

Gracie, dear, you just reminded of shopping with my Polish grandmother. The was a poultry shop on our street. She would go in, point at a chicken, and it was plucked and slaughtered on the spot. I was six or seven at the time and was horrified. :) Darn good chickens, though.

This is also the grandmother who would choose a roast at the A&P, then take it to the deli where she had the string removed, and the roast re-weighed.

Villager Joyce 10-04-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1457202)
I ordered bread, orange juice, broccoli, cilantro, jalapeño, egss and several household cleaning items. The items came to me from the Southren Trace store. There is a one year free delivery on orders over 35.00. There is a small service charge. It’s through
Instacart: Groceries Delivered From Local Stores
I basically tried it for fun but it worked so well that I may continue to use the service. It would be great for someone who no longer drives. You can pick your delivery date and time. Give the Webb site a look. If you want a $10.00 first time order credit PM me. As I said, I really did it for fun but I think it may be useful. I have a homebound friend in Georgia who uses it at Publix there.
Oh, I signed up through an email I got from Publix but they also partner with other businesses

I would expect to have a fee for delivery. This might be perfect for me. I’m always off budget because I see something I absolutely have to have or else!

perrjojo 10-04-2017 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1457128)
What type of items did you order? Which Publix?

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1457208)
I would expect to have a fee for delivery. This might be perfect for me. I’m always off budget because I see something I absolutely have to have or else!

So true. It might save money in the long run :laugh:

Opmoochler 10-04-2017 01:55 PM

Not a space to be had for three spins around the parking lots! Finally snagged one and set out to get turkey thighs, lamb steaks, and baby tomatoes. No lamb at all and no turkey thighs, though they had other turkey parts (including feet!!!). The tomatoes were the same price as at Publix. Oh well.

PaulDenise 10-04-2017 01:58 PM

Up early and went over about 8am.

Actually a very nice store. Produce and beer are right at the entry.

It is also small enough that you don't get that 'I will never get out of here' feel that you get at the big Walmarts.

Feels really 'modern' and pleasant.

NYGUY 10-04-2017 02:19 PM

We stopped in today just to see what it was like. It was mobbed. The store was bigger than I expected with mostly the same categories as any grocery store, just less selection. I was expecting more specialty items (although I did find a tiny pie for one person that I had to have....about a quarter of one of the small pies at Publix). I might stop in to pick up something quick.

Henryk 10-04-2017 02:44 PM

Went at about 3:00. I knew the lot would be mobbed, so I took a space that opened as I drove in--farthest from the store.

MUCH smaller than I expected. Fewer selections. Produce looked quite good and did seem less expensive. Four cashiers only(!), but about ten self check-outs. Some stuff cheaper than Publix, some about the same. English muffins cheaper, but not as cheap as Publix BOGO.

Next time, I'll take a pad and pen. I can only keep two prices at a time in my head.

Chatbrat 10-04-2017 03:12 PM

Not bad save $8:00 on groceries to be offset with $300.00 damage to be offset, to your car in the less than adequate parking lot

CFrance 10-04-2017 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulDenise (Post 1457254)
Up early and went over about 8am.

Actually a very nice store. Produce and beer are right at the entry.

It is also small enough that you don't get that 'I will never get out of here' feel that you get at the big Walmarts.

Feels really 'modern' and pleasant.

Beer and Broccoli--one stop shopping! I'm in.

Villager Joyce 10-04-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1457279)
Not bad save $8:00 on groceries to be offset with $300.00 damage to be offset, to your car in the less than adequate parking lot

Did you actually have damage to your car or you just talking trash?

golf2140 10-04-2017 05:44 PM

Anyone check the price of gas.

vinricci 10-04-2017 06:00 PM

$2.53 regular

NotGolfer 10-04-2017 07:09 PM

With a Walmart card...$2.48.

stewswain 10-04-2017 07:56 PM

What are store hours?

NYGUY 10-04-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vinricci (Post 1457335)
$2.53 regular

Cheaper than the $2.55 CASH price at Shell.

tv2016 10-04-2017 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stewswain (Post 1457386)
what are store hours?

6-12

skip0358 10-05-2017 05:13 AM

Shell with the gas card is $2.50. That's my 2 cents. I'll stick with shell period.

TimeForChange 10-05-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1438686)
I think it will be a plus. I have learned since moving to The Villages that a lot of people haven't grown up with Walmart and some even have a prejudice against Walmart.

They have huge buying power and often you can find items much less expensive than anywhere. This draws people who have always watched their money and those who must watch their not much money.

Yep. I like Walmart.


80% of their products are imported. They literally ruined small town America. They pay their employees minimum wage. They are a last resort for me. I hate the smell of Walmart inside.

joldnol 10-05-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1457426)
Shell with the gas card is $2.50. That's my 2 cents. I'll stick with shell period.

if you buy the card from publix when they have the sale of 50 dollar cards for forty dollars you save an additional 20%. The gas card sale is going on now

CFrance 10-05-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeForChange (Post 1457523)
80% of their products are imported. They literally ruined small town America. They pay their employees minimum wage. They are a last resort for me. I hate the smell of Walmart inside.

Aside from hating the smell of Walmart inside (never noticed), I agree with you. They were even taken to court because they sold at a loss when going into a new neighborhood in order to drive the competition out. They ran so many mom 'n pops out of business and changed small-town America's landscape for the worse. It's a part of corporate greed that really gets my goat.

Corporate greed is why unions got started. But that's off topic...


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