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SouthOfTheBorder 10-10-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by champion6 (Post 951124)
Stop the presses ... I just looked at the 2014 $5 map. What I saw under construction is probably the Rohan Regional Rec Center. Time will tell.


We have a bingo! Rohan RRC construction is well under way. :agree:

Oak Hammock Plaza is scheduled to be constructed east of Rohan RRC. IF it contains a grocery store, Publix could be the the tenant.

Don

Barefoot 10-10-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ditka41 (Post 950156)
I observed it twice just to be sure. NO vest (which could be phony anyway). She didn't even have a cart, so couldn't have been buying much. Do hope they tossed her and the dog out. I did not say anything to her personally because who knows what somebody that goofy is packing.

Would be good for the new management to become acquainted with oddities to be encountered here in The Villages and do the right thing for the organization. I will discuss it directly with the manager Thursday and contact HQ if the response is not correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 951056)
Oh good grief. When we finally move to TV I sure hope I have better ways than this to occupy my time. How exactly did a lady carrying a small dog through a store adversely affect you?

You are a breath of fresh air. :ho:

KeepingItReal 10-11-2014 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 950267)
Unfortunately, that would be illegal. Service dogs and so -called "comfort" dogs must be allowed by law, and you may NOT ask what service the critters provide. This is spelled out in the ADA.


Publix is a great store but there is a lot of incorrect information about them having to allow certain dogs inside being presented as law when it is not, this explains it very well..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...tuOsgcQB1kY0lg

Emotional Support Animals (ESA), Therapy Dogs & Rights
POSTED BY SPLINTERFL

Emotional Support Animals(ESA)


Are Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) the same as Service Dogs (SDs)?

No, Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) are not the same as Service Dogs (SDs).


ESAs are Therapeutic Pets, usually prescribed by a therapist or psychiatrist or doctor, that help the disabled with emotional difficulties or with loneliness. They may include cats and birds.



Under the US Federal Laws, Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) cannot go into no-pets-allowed places, BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED to live in “no-pet” housing and in the cabins of airplanes when accompanied by a note from their handler’s doctor.


ESA Info for Landlords
Although not trained to do work or tasks, ESAs can be greatly beneficial to their owners just by their comforting presence, company, companionship and love.
Dogs used for emotional support, that are not task-trained, are called
emotional support animals. They are not service dogs.
“The Department is proposing new regulatory text in § 35.104 to formalize its position on emotional support or comfort animals, which is that
‘‘[a]nimals whose sole function is to provide emotional support, comfort, therapy, companionship, therapeutic benefits, or promote emotional wellbeing are not service animals.’’
The Department wishes to underscore that the exclusion of emotional support animals from ADA coverage does not mean that persons with psychiatric, cognitive, or mental disabilities cannot use service animals. The Department proposes specific regulatory text in § 35.104 to make this clear: ‘‘[t]he term service animal includes individually trained animals that do work or perform tasks for the benefit of individuals with disabilities, including psychiatric, cognitive, and mental disabilities.’’ This language simply clarifies the Department’s longstanding position.”


Revised ADA Regulations Implementing Title II and Title III

Can an Emotional Support Animal go in public areas, restaurants, stores, etc?

Usually NO. It can go where pets are allowed to go. Most restaurants and businesses are off-limits to pets, so are also off-limits to ESA’s. Some hotels like, Motel 6 and La Quinta are pet friendly. The only special rights that the ESA handler has is that it can LIVE in “no-pet” housing and travel in the cabin of an aircraft.

Other than theses two extra rights, it is just a common pet.

Isn’t an ESA a Service Dog, and protected under the ADA, so it can go anywere a service dog can go?
NO. An ESA has no rights under the ADA and does NOT have public access rights in “no-pets” areas.

2010 The ADA now defines a service animal as:Service animal means any dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability, including a physical, sensory, psychiatric, intellectual, or other mental disability. Other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not service animals for the purposes of this definition.The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the handlerīs disability. Examples of work or tasks include, but are not limited to, assisting individuals who are blind or have low vision with navigation and other tasks, alerting individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing to the presence of people or sounds, providing non-violent protection or rescue work, pulling a wheelchair, assisting an individual during a seizure, alerting individuals to the presence of allergens, retrieving items such as medicine or the telephone, providing physical support and assistance with balance and stability to individuals with mobility disabilities, and helping persons with psychiatric and neurological disabilities by preventing or interrupting impulsive or destructive behaviors.
The crime deterrent effects of an animalīs presence and the provision of emotional support, well-being, comfort, or companionship do not constitute work or tasks for the purposes of this definition.


Service Dogs have thousands of hours of documented training, ESA’s however have little, if any, training and behave much like pets in public. It is a crime, felony fraud, to claim your pet, or ESA, as a Service Dog with ADA rights.
If you are interested in getting your ESA dog certified through SDFL, click here.




Therapy Dogs

Are Therapy Dogs (TDs) the same as Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) or ADA Service Dogs (SDs)?

No, Therapy Dogs (or therapy animals) are not Service Dogs nor are they Emotional Support Animals. TDs are anyone’s pets that have been trained to behave properly in a wide variety of environments and who are exceptionally gentle and well-mannered with a wide variety of human beings. Their “job” is to bring a higher level of social functioning to people in nursing homes, schools, hospitals, hospices, etc.

They cannot go into no-pets-allowed places unless they are invited.

A therapy dog is an individual’s pet which has been trained, tested, certified and insured to work in hospital, nursing home, school, and other institutional settings. The therapy dog and their handler visit to cheer patients, to educate the community, to counter grief and stress, and generally be good canine ambassadors within the community. Many therapy dog partners are volunteers. Therapy dogs are not service dogs.

Under U.S. law, persons with therapy dogs are NOT granted the right to enter businesses with their dogs which do not permit pets. They do not get to fly in the cabins of aircraft because they are therapy dogs, nor do they get to live in “no pets” housing because they are therapy dogs.

If you are interested in getting your dog certified, click here for Therapy Dog International.

For landlords and others who may still be confused about ESA’s and Therapy dogs.

Emotional Support Animals (ESA) and Therapy Dogs (TD) are different, be sure you use the proper title. Many confuse the two, they are two different animals, and different laws that apply to them. Neither of them are ADA Service Dogs (SD).

The Therapy Dog is a working animal, owned by a NON-DISABLED person. When working it VISITS hospitals, schools and nursing homes to brighten the spirits of the people it visits.

It has no ADA RIGHTS and the FHA rules do not apply to it.

An ESA (Emotional Support Animal) is an animal owned by a DISABLED person. An ESA is a therapeutic pet, but has special rights under the FHA to allow them to live in “no pet” housing, and rights under the Air Carriers Act so that it can go in the cabin of an aircraft. As it is a PET you will have to stay in a pet friendly hotel. It however does not have any ADA protections like Title I (Work place), Title II (Transport) or Title III (Public Access in businesses).

So your ESA can not go to work with you (unless invited) or go shopping in Walmart or other businesses that ban pets.

The requirement to have an ESA are: Be legally disabled under the FHA or State law and/or a letter from your doctor prescibing an ESA for your mental well being.
REF: Guide for Landlords about ESA’s
If you are disabled and have a pet that assists you in the home, do not call it a ‘Therapy Dog’.


Why is it so bad if pets pretend to be service dogs?

Simple, the rights of the disabled are being infringed. Just as pretending to be a Law Enforcement Officer infringes the rights of the police. Both are viewed the same way. It’s a Felony in many states to do either. There are laws in place to punish such people with fines, prison terms, and/or loss of future benefits (such as Medicare, Social Security Benefits, Food Stamps, etc.). Do you really want to risk your Social Security later, so you can bring a pet with you in public?


karostay 10-11-2014 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 948547)
Regardless of what Public would build, posters on TOTV will find fault. They wanted another store now they got one.....................but

:bowdown: Exactly

dotti105 10-11-2014 09:13 AM

We love the new Publix! Clean, close by, good selection and good customer service! Happy to never go through the "Crazy Colony Congestion" again.

Rumor has it that a new Publix is also planned for the corner of Morse and 44. Smart. Very smart!!

Oh, and we realize that crazy, entitled pet owners are likely to show up anywhere. That's a given in TV. Goes with the territory. Just ignore them.

shelljoe7169 10-11-2014 10:57 AM

Some ppl will love it and some will be negative about it. Same as your opinion about the villages. Change your zip code. We appreciate being in this one'

shcisamax 10-11-2014 11:19 AM

Although it is further from our home than the Colony Publix, we went yesterday and what a difference! Oh my gosh...We could actually get through the aisles without bumping into people. The lines for check out were....well there were no lines! There were open checkout counters. What a complete joy. It definitely took less time to shop and get home than it would have at the Colony Publix.

ditka41 10-11-2014 02:59 PM

Publix is a great store but there is a lot of incorrect information about them having to allow certain dogs inside being presented as law when it is not, this explains it very well..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...tuOsgcQB1kY0lg

Emotional Support Animals (ESA), Therapy Dogs & Rights
POSTED BY SPLINTERFL

Emotional Support Animals(ESA)


Are Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) the same as Service Dogs (SDs)?

No, Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) are not the same as Service Dogs (SDs).


ESAs are Therapeutic Pets, usually prescribed by a therapist or psychiatrist or doctor, that help the disabled with emotional difficulties or with loneliness. They may include cats and birds.



Under the US Federal Laws, Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) cannot go into no-pets-allowed places, BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED to live in “no-pet” housing and in the cabins of airplanes when accompanied by a note from their handler’s doctor.


ESA Info for Landlords
Although not trained to do work or tasks, ESAs can be greatly beneficial to their owners just by their comforting presence, company, companionship and love.
Dogs used for emotional support, that are not task-trained, are called
emotional support animals. They are not service dogs.
“The Department is proposing new regulatory text in § 35.104 to formalize its position on emotional support or comfort animals, which is that
‘‘[a]nimals whose sole function is to provide emotional support, comfort, therapy, companionship, therapeutic benefits, or promote emotional wellbeing are not service animals.’’
The Department wishes to underscore that the exclusion of emotional support animals from ADA coverage does not mean that persons with psychiatric, cognitive, or mental disabilities cannot use service animals. The Department proposes specific regulatory text in § 35.104 to make this clear: ‘‘[t]he term service animal includes individually trained animals that do work or perform tasks for the benefit of individuals with disabilities, including psychiatric, cognitive, and mental disabilities.’’ This language simply clarifies the Department’s longstanding position.”


Revised ADA Regulations Implementing Title II and Title III

Can an Emotional Support Animal go in public areas, restaurants, stores, etc?

Usually NO. It can go where pets are allowed to go. Most restaurants and businesses are off-limits to pets, so are also off-limits to ESA’s. Some hotels like, Motel 6 and La Quinta are pet friendly. The only special rights that the ESA handler has is that it can LIVE in “no-pet” housing and travel in the cabin of an aircraft.

Other than theses two extra rights, it is just a common pet.

Isn’t an ESA a Service Dog, and protected under the ADA, so it can go anywere a service dog can go?
NO. An ESA has no rights under the ADA and does NOT have public access rights in “no-pets” areas.

2010 The ADA now defines a service animal as:Service animal means any dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability, including a physical, sensory, psychiatric, intellectual, or other mental disability. Other species of animals, whether wild or domestic, trained or untrained, are not service animals for the purposes of this definition.The work or tasks performed by a service animal must be directly related to the handlerīs disability. Examples of work or tasks include, but are not limited to, assisting individuals who are blind or have low vision with navigation and other tasks, alerting individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing to the presence of people or sounds, providing non-violent protection or rescue work, pulling a wheelchair, assisting an individual during a seizure, alerting individuals to the presence of allergens, retrieving items such as medicine or the telephone, providing physical support and assistance with balance and stability to individuals with mobility disabilities, and helping persons with psychiatric and neurological disabilities by preventing or interrupting impulsive or destructive behaviors.
The crime deterrent effects of an animalīs presence and the provision of emotional support, well-being, comfort, or companionship do not constitute work or tasks for the purposes of this definition.


Service Dogs have thousands of hours of documented training, ESA’s however have little, if any, training and behave much like pets in public. It is a crime, felony fraud, to claim your pet, or ESA, as a Service Dog with ADA rights.
If you are interested in getting your ESA dog certified through SDFL, click here.




Therapy Dogs

Are Therapy Dogs (TDs) the same as Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) or ADA Service Dogs (SDs)?

No, Therapy Dogs (or therapy animals) are not Service Dogs nor are they Emotional Support Animals. TDs are anyone’s pets that have been trained to behave properly in a wide variety of environments and who are exceptionally gentle and well-mannered with a wide variety of human beings. Their “job” is to bring a higher level of social functioning to people in nursing homes, schools, hospitals, hospices, etc.

They cannot go into no-pets-allowed places unless they are invited.

A therapy dog is an individual’s pet which has been trained, tested, certified and insured to work in hospital, nursing home, school, and other institutional settings. The therapy dog and their handler visit to cheer patients, to educate the community, to counter grief and stress, and generally be good canine ambassadors within the community. Many therapy dog partners are volunteers. Therapy dogs are not service dogs.

Under U.S. law, persons with therapy dogs are NOT granted the right to enter businesses with their dogs which do not permit pets. They do not get to fly in the cabins of aircraft because they are therapy dogs, nor do they get to live in “no pets” housing because they are therapy dogs.

If you are interested in getting your dog certified, click here for Therapy Dog International.

For landlords and others who may still be confused about ESA’s and Therapy dogs.

Emotional Support Animals (ESA) and Therapy Dogs (TD) are different, be sure you use the proper title. Many confuse the two, they are two different animals, and different laws that apply to them. Neither of them are ADA Service Dogs (SD).

The Therapy Dog is a working animal, owned by a NON-DISABLED person. When working it VISITS hospitals, schools and nursing homes to brighten the spirits of the people it visits.

It has no ADA RIGHTS and the FHA rules do not apply to it.

An ESA (Emotional Support Animal) is an animal owned by a DISABLED person. An ESA is a therapeutic pet, but has special rights under the FHA to allow them to live in “no pet” housing, and rights under the Air Carriers Act so that it can go in the cabin of an aircraft. As it is a PET you will have to stay in a pet friendly hotel. It however does not have any ADA protections like Title I (Work place), Title II (Transport) or Title III (Public Access in businesses).

So your ESA can not go to work with you (unless invited) or go shopping in Walmart or other businesses that ban pets.

The requirement to have an ESA are: Be legally disabled under the FHA or State law and/or a letter from your doctor prescibing an ESA for your mental well being.
REF: Guide for Landlords about ESA’s
If you are disabled and have a pet that assists you in the home, do not call it a ‘Therapy Dog’.


Why is it so bad if pets pretend to be service dogs?

Simple, the rights of the disabled are being infringed. Just as pretending to be a Law Enforcement Officer infringes the rights of the police. Both are viewed the same way. It’s a Felony in many states to do either. There are laws in place to punish such people with fines, prison terms, and/or loss of future benefits (such as Medicare, Social Security Benefits, Food Stamps, etc.). Do you really want to risk your Social Security later, so you can bring a pet with you in public?



__________________
KeepingItReal correctly states the law on dogs and where they do and don't belong. Those who don't understand it, should review the post. It is really quite clear and exists for obvious reasons --(to most people).

cquick 10-11-2014 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotti105 (Post 951328)
We love the new Publix! Clean, close by, good selection and good customer service! Happy to never go through the "Crazy Colony Congestion" again.

Rumor has it that a new Publix is also planned for the corner of Morse and 44. Smart. Very smart!!

Oh, and we realize that crazy, entitled pet owners are likely to show up anywhere. That's a given in TV. Goes with the territory. Just ignore them.

never had any trouble at Colony myself. no Crazy Colony Congestion for me

CFrance 10-11-2014 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cquick (Post 951493)
never had any trouble at Colony myself. no Crazy Colony Congestion for me

We sure have! Won't go there during the winter season.

jblum315 10-11-2014 04:31 PM

This Publix will not relieve the crowding at Colony Publix. It's too far away and too small.

gomoho 10-11-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 951526)
This Publix will not relieve the crowding at Colony Publix. It's too far away and too small.

I think you may be correct about that - hope not. Time will tell.

KathieI 10-11-2014 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 951375)
Although it is further from our home than the Colony Publix, we went yesterday and what a difference! Oh my gosh...We could actually get through the aisles without bumping into people. The lines for check out were....well there were no lines! There were open checkout counters. What a complete joy. It definitely took less time to shop and get home than it would have at the Colony Publix.

I happened to be in Wildwood today and thought I'd pick up a few things in the new Publix. Thanks to the posters on here, I found the way to exit the parking lot and get onto Powell, which was great. I also found the store to be fantastic, aisles are very large, their shelves are completely stocked (unlike Colony because its so busy) and they have laid it out so well, things are easy to find. I complemented the cashier as I feel it was very well done by Publix management. Although its also further away from where I live, I will make it a point to go there if I find myself in that area. Great new store, very much needed, and I don't find it that much smaller than Colony.

I agree with Bogie, they wanted another store, they got it and still they are complaining. :shrug:

NYGUY 10-11-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 951526)
This Publix will not relieve the crowding at Colony Publix. It's too far away and too small.

Have been to the new Publix and today we went back to Colony. It was noticeably less crowded than before the new Publix opened!! As further evidence of that, I noted 6 open handicapped parking spaces is the same area. I have never seen that, ever, in, or out, of season. I asked one of the employees, and she indicated that they believed that the traffic at Colony had been reduced since the new store opened.

I am glad that so many people like the new Publix and hope they keep going there!!

tomwed 10-11-2014 10:09 PM

Is the new Publix still selling Boars Head Hot Dogs and a Soda for a dollar? or was that just a promo when they opened

beachx4me 10-13-2014 08:22 PM

Virginia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wandatime (Post 950679)
Hey, I live in Virginia and most of my South Carolina relatives consider me a Yankee. No matter how many times I tell them that Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy, they reply, nope, you are north of Charlotte. Yankee.

Anyway, back to Publix. I can't wait to go to the new, smaller one and check it out. But then, I enjoy grocery shopping. It is nice and cool in there and I am of a certain age. I am hoping to buy most of my produce at the farmer's markets, so I want to know if they are cheaper than the grocery stores? Even if not, it would still be buying local, right?

This is not about the grocery store!! I am from Virginia too, and we are truly a southern state. Remind your relatives where the Mason-Dixon Line is and yes, Richmond was the capital of the Confederacy. We drink sweet tea and say y'all just like they do!!!

teresadyer15@gmail.com 10-13-2014 08:36 PM

This new Publix is a home run!! Colony is always a zoo and customers and employees rude! Now all this place needs is a Home Goods!

sallystew 10-14-2014 08:04 AM

We have been to both. Will probably stick with Colony for the most part.

ROCKETMAN 10-14-2014 09:21 AM

That is one of the first posts i've read that employees at colony publix are rude. I work there and don't really see that. Anyway sales figures for the first week open for new store $395,000. First week publix open in colony was $298,000. Publix in colony sales for last week were $1,000,000 compared to 1.4 and 1.2 the previous weeks. It has made some difference as far as how crowded it seems.

jblum315 10-14-2014 09:30 AM

I cannot believe that any Publix employee has ever been rude to a customer. In my experience they go out of their way to be helpful even if you interrupt their work, and always with a smile.

tomwed 10-14-2014 10:27 AM

I shop at Aldi's on 441. I was there yesterday. It was busy and sometimes the carts are in others way and you have to wait. The thing is that the people who shop in Aldi's never seem to care. Shopping I think is less stressful when you only have 3,000 items in a store compared to 35,000 items. I heard many people complain about rude behavior in other stores many times before. Check-out is fast because there is no bagging. I like bagging my own so I can group like items for the frig, freezer or cabinet. I save more time unpacking then the extra time I take bagging.

I hope s new Aldi's comes to the Brownwood side of town.

Shimpy 10-14-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teresadyer15@gmail.com (Post 952515)
This new Publix is a home run!! Colony is always a zoo and customers and employees rude! Now all this place needs is a Home Goods!


I have found after over 4 years of shopping there several times a week that the emloyees are always very nice and never rude.

Bogie Shooter 10-14-2014 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 952922)
I have found after over 4 years of shopping there several times a week that the emloyees are always very nice and never rude.

And many of them are our neighbors!

ROCKETMAN 10-15-2014 10:06 AM

I think we have a better chance of getting a traders joes than a new aldis. Aldis owns trader joes and they currently have no plans to build anywhere around here. They just opened one in orlando and had to traffic cop because parking lots were jammed.

REDCART 10-15-2014 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 952704)
I cannot believe that any Publix employee has ever been rude to a customer. In my experience they go out of their way to be helpful even if you interrupt their work, and always with a smile.

I agree wholeheartedly. We've never encountered a rude Publix employee either at Colony or Southern Trace. You would think with the law of averages, over 10 years that you would encounter at least one who might be having a bad day.

tomwed 10-15-2014 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 953240)
and they currently have no plans to build anywhere around here.

Where did you read that? I was looking for that information a couple of weeks ago.

2BNTV 10-15-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 948991)
Things were always better back up North................don't you just get tired of hearing that?

I think it is a refreshing idea that stores don't have all the same quality foods, that some of us gouged on, up north, or anywhere else, for that matter.

It certainly works for me as I could easily become a "chubcicle" again. :smiley:

Pushaways, from the dinner table, is the best option.

simpkinp 10-15-2014 06:46 PM

OK, I will be bad and say I am tired of hearing about it being better "back home". Where are these people living? I live in The Villages and love it. THIS is home. Of course this post does not apply to snowbirds, as they do have another home, but for full time residents, I wonder why they want to be here. The grocery stores are better, the restaurants are better. What about the lifestyle?

JoMar 10-15-2014 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpkinp (Post 953455)
OK, I will be bad and say I am tired of hearing about it being better "back home". Where are these people living? I live in The Villages and love it. THIS is home. Of course this post does not apply to snowbirds, as they do have another home, but for full time residents, I wonder why they want to be here. The grocery stores are better, the restaurants are better. What about the lifestyle?

We live here for the lifestyle and accept the differences from what we came from. The restaurants aren't that great and the grocery stores are grocery stores.....nothing more and not better. I can't believe there are 11 pages of discussion on grocery stores.


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