Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1849370)

Ignore the tired old prunes who bash the southern areas, the developer knows the market and home sales are currently at an all time high. Recent announcements include:

The Villages All New Future Lifestyle Opportunities

A 400-acre “Medical Village” that will include a new UF Health trauma center that also will serve as a teaching hospital for medical students;

An “Urban core” shopping center near the medical complex and that will include complementary businesses;

Housing for doctors, nurses and other medical professionals;

A “Lifestyle/Town Center”;

A “Super-Regional” recreation center;

New golf courses (46 Championship holes), a Pitch & Putt and Putting Course;

A lake large enough to host regional or international events such as dragon boat racing, skiing, rowing, remote-controlled boats and sailing;

New bridges connecting portions of the new areas, including one that will accommodate both multi-modal and automobile traffic across the turnpike south of the plaza.

A second K-8 Villages Charter School campus and an expanded high school campus that includes a sports complex, gym, stadium and performing arts center, among other things;

A neighborhood near the new school campus for employees who work in The Villages;

New recreation centers;

A new restaurant and pub; and

An indoor farmer’s market.

Originally Posted by dadoiron (Post 1849608)

They work in mysterious ways with nothing too revealing but always for the almighty dollar for them.

Originally Posted by neikenberry (Post 1849400)

The southern end is new houses and a new concept. Previously, north of 44, all of the amenities were put in place and then homes were built and sold. South of 44 they are building homes, some amenities, and then more amenities. For example, south of 44 has only one dedicated restaurant at this point...for several years now. Yes, it will change, but when? The bridges for connectivity were promised over two years ago and they still aren't complete. No championship golf south of 44 but one course is being built. So just a different mindset. Be very careful what the sales office tells you...they have no ethics and they say what they can to sell you a house. Lots of people who buy south of 44 are happy. But they nearly all come north in their cars for entertainment and shopping.

Originally Posted by mydavid (Post 1849449)

One of the biggest things that will change from living in OTOW and moving any place in TV you will no longer have the security and truly private roads, security here is an allusion. :welcome:

Originally Posted by dadoiron (Post 1849608)

They work in mysterious ways with nothing too revealing but always for the almighty dollar for them.

Originally Posted by HeleneGB (Post 1849407)

There will not be one there.

Originally Posted by Sanford Epstein (Post 1849554)

Stay where you are! TV are totally money hungry. It is not what it used to be and all the salespeople are lying to you! The construction traffic is terrible. War time convoys of DUMP TRUCKS! This place is why I want to move! If I had bought a northern area resale it would be much better. Where you are thinking of buying you will be isolated for years/

Originally Posted by Marykschulz (Post 1849738)

Do lots of research. The new Sawgrass Grove is not a town square like the others. The plans appear to have less permanent style vendor booths. There will be a lot of development in that area including family homes, schools, and health facilities. Make sure you know what’s coming there before committing. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Marykschulz (Post 1849738)

Do lots of research. The new Sawgrass Grove is not a town square like the others. The plans appear to have less permanent style vendor booths. There will be a lot of development in that area including family homes, schools, and health facilities. Make sure you know what’s coming there before committing. Good luck.

Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1849374)

If you read the second complaint I listed it is about the plans south of 44, rezoning and spot zoning. One is to increase the allowable density in residential areas. Another is to spot zone and allow multi family housing in areas currently zoned single family residential only.

This could mean that after a residential area south of 44 is developed with single family homes the residents find out there is a spot zone for multi family adjacent and apartments going up in their back yard. Of course then it will be too late.

Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1849377)

Went to Flippers last night near the new Brownwood hotel. Had interesting conversation with couple who live in Finney, They were not the negative type at all, just very disappointed people, have to have auto to get groceries, lots of things. Summary, they just feel the whole concept is so much different than for those of us who live near Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter, and even on down to Brownwood. They actually know people who have sold their brand new homes and moved to one the existing town square areas. Don't know much about it, but seems a very different concept. My village has FOUR neighborhood pools all with in a few block, not even a GC needed, can walk. Also TWO rec center pools and one big Olympic size at a regional center within walking distance. The folks I talked with just kind of sadly said, yes we know, we were told it would be like where we had rented in the past, but it has been two years now and is very different than what we experiences.
We have one restaurant and one swimming pool for everyone, kids, adults, residents, etc. and it is at the restaurant; very different than all the quiet pools near where we had rented homes many time. We have and some food trucks and a restaurant (they thought both were fine, it's just far from what they thought they were moving to) but no cute shops and music around a square. Couple near us hear conversation and joined in, again, not at all a "trash it" conversation, or negative people. Just disappointed in the difference between what they thought they were buying and what they actually have. All said it's pretty much like any other regular place. One community pool, and you commute to everything in a car: beauty shop, vet, groceries, said they even have to get in car and drive to all the classes and craft lessons. Went home thinking I am very fortunate, my day to day life is VERY different from theirs. Probably it's so successful because this is probably what many people are seeking, a lot of seclusion, and used to auto commuting for a dozen eggs, so not a big deal to them I am sure. Hard on those who rented and fell in love with the former villages "life style".

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1849379)

I can’t wait to see all the plans for south TV come to fruition. It’s all going to be ok trust me. I’ve talked to some of the old timers who first moved to the Spanish Springs area of TV and they thought The Villages was ending a CR 466. Then it was ending at 466A and then it was finally really ending (the final phase) was at Brownwood and State Route 44. Well, you see my point. Just sit back and enjoy the expansion of The Villages. Everything is going to be bigger and better as time and The Villages marches on. Have just a little bit of faith...

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1849514)

Strange that they have to take a car to all the classes and craft lessons as they are all accessible by golf car, maybe they don't have a golf car. As far as people selling and moving north I can assure you that there are many, many more selling up north and moving south, we have many friends and neighbors that did just that. As far as grocery shopping Publix is schedule to open first quarter 2021 and will be accessible by golf car, Chitty Chatty and Bradford are already golf car accessible to the Lake Deaton Plaza. We too have a regional rec. center with large pool as well as sports pools, neighborhood pools and rec. center, and something you don't have, neighborhood family pools. We have pitch and putt, we have putt and play, which you also don't have, we have two of the 6 villages dog parks, as well as softball fields. we have entertainment at Edna's and The Fenney Bar and Grille and just 10 minutes or less to Paddock Square. When the next two bridges open early next year the south will have full connectivity and replies like yours will finally end. The village of Fenney is the most populous of all the villages and re-sales go very quickly here, those who bought early are realizing 6 figure profits when they choose to sell and move to a larger home down south. There is so much more down here that is not available north of 44 along with being peaceful and quiet, it's no wonder they sell 6 new homes a day 365 days per year south of 44. In closing I will mention that several families that moved from your area to the south did so because of the un-friendly atmosphere where they lived and still cannot believe how friendly and close knit everyone is down here with few exceptions. This is a great area, there are announcements of new projects it seems every week, projects that will add to the enjoyment of living south of 44, there will be few if any changes north of 44, it is a "status-quo" area that you will either love or regret living there and you can only buy used homes north of 44, trying buying a "10" series home up there, they are simply not available anywhere but south of 44.

Originally Posted by stujake (Post 1849684)

The above all sounds to me like anything but an age-restricted community, which is why most of us moved here. In pre-pandemic conditions, the square were overcrowded, the movie theaters were full, etc. Now, the golf courses are hard to get time on except in the heat of the day. Condominiums would have been preferred over apartments. I feel sorry for those people who bought homes based upon location and now the nature of the location will change when apartments replace country clubs. Nothing but greed.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1849727)

Anybody that visited TV before buying could determine in about a half hour that it was not a gated community.
Complaining after the fact gets no sympathy from me.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1849733)

One what, where?

Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 1849737)

I will never understand how people move to the most amazing retirement community in the world and spend their retirement complaining about the developers that built it. For you "northern" folks who think the area south of 44 is so bad, the solution is to not give it another thought. We Fenney folks are a happy community and we can do without the negativity of trolls and northerners that are stuck in the paradigm that existed decades ago when they bought their northern home.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1849769)

What is a 10 series home?

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1849774)

You mentioned movie theaters......are there plans for a movie theater south of 44? We have three movie theaters north of 44. It would be nice if those three theaters are not over crowded by all the new residents south of 44. I guess there is always the movie theater in Leesburg to lure the southern Villagers.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1849764)

I've said this before in other threads that deal with this subject.........is there going to be another 441/27 corridor in the southern section of The Villages? To me, that is extremely important to have the ability to arrive at that corridor of retail stores, restaurants, and medical facilities in about 10 minutes by car. It is also important to many folks to be able to access part of that corridor with their golf cart.

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1849783)

10 foot ceiling designer series. Most have more modern style lighting, cabinets, islands, tile, upgraded appliances, etc. They start around $700,000.

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1849785)

Wait until all those apartments up there are rented, you'll be getting theater tickets the same way you get tee times. There is a lot of designated commercial acreage down here and a movie theater may well be in the plans. Personally I haven't been to one in 30 years so it doesn't bother me one way or the other. From what I've heard the Leesburg theater has more comfortable seats and lower cost tickets.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1849788)

Living in Mallory Square why are you so concerned what goes on in the southern section? All the things you say are problems are not a problem for you? Where are you really coming from?

Originally Posted by dadspet (Post 1849794)

Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1849370)

Ignore the tired old prunes who bash the southern areas, the developer knows the market and home sales are currently at an all time high. Recent announcements include:

The Villages All New Future Lifestyle Opportunities

A 400-acre “Medical Village” that will include a new UF Health trauma center that also will serve as a teaching hospital for medical students;

An “Urban core” shopping center near the medical complex and that will include complementary businesses;

Housing for doctors, nurses and other medical professionals;

A “Lifestyle/Town Center”;

A “Super-Regional” recreation center;

New golf courses (46 Championship holes), a Pitch & Putt and Putting Course;

A lake large enough to host regional or international events such as dragon boat racing, skiing, rowing, remote-controlled boats and sailing;

New bridges connecting portions of the new areas, including one that will accommodate both multi-modal and automobile traffic across the turnpike south of the plaza.

A second K-8 Villages Charter School campus and an expanded high school campus that includes a sports complex, gym, stadium and performing arts center, among other things;

A neighborhood near the new school campus for employees who work in The Villages;

New recreation centers;

A new restaurant and pub; and

An indoor farmer’s market.

Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 1849737)

I will never understand how people move to the most amazing retirement community in the world and spend their retirement complaining about the developers that built it. For you "northern" folks who think the area south of 44 is so bad, the solution is to not give it another thought. We Fenney folks are a happy community and we can do without the negativity of trolls and northerners that are stuck in the paradigm that existed decades ago when they bought their northern home.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1849802)

My concern is resale value of our homes north of 44. I'm trying to get a pulse on why people below 44 feel their area is a better fit for them and north of 44 is somehow sub par. I do understand that if people want brand new, the only way to go is south of 44.