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Laura T. 07-25-2024 07:26 AM
Thank, it is. It's the Moultrie Creek Recreation Center ADULT pool. I actually chose my home in relation to it's location because swimming is one of the few things I can physically do after back surgery years ago. I can't enjoy most other sports here, but am satisfied to use the pool, walk, golf cart, shop eat and party!

Laura T. 07-25-2024 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2352626)
OP: did this group tell you that could not stay and had to leave, or did they just tell you when there class was? I guess I would have stayed put and let them know if they were disturbing me. But I'm not put off by bully groups. :D
No, they never asked us to leave, but asked us to join them. We were already there, swimming, talking and enjoying ourselves when people started to come in, telling us they were getting ready for a class, and we were "welcome" to join them. We didn't want to join them, we wanted to keep doing what we were doing, but then there were 24 in the pool, each with a noodle and a set of dumbbells, which left no room for anyone else to even move. Think, 24 people with their arms extended at their sides....leaves no room. We watched a bit, then left, realizing we either had to exercise with them, or leave. We were told the class occurs three days a week. Then the leader denies it's a class and when they are checked by The Villages pool checkers, they stop exercising and stand there pretending to swim and socialize so they don't get caught. It feels like high school all over again!

Laura T. 07-25-2024 07:38 AM
Moultrie Creek Recreation center Adult swimming pool, located near the postal boxes.

retiredguy123 07-25-2024 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Laura T. (Post 2352742)
No, they never asked us to leave, but asked us to join them. We were already there, swimming, talking and enjoying ourselves when people started to come in, telling us they were getting ready for a class, and we were "welcome" to join them. We didn't want to join them, we wanted to keep doing what we were doing, but then there were 24 in the pool, each with a noodle and a set of dumbbells, which left no room for anyone else to even move. Think, 24 people with their arms extended at their sides....leaves no room. We watched a bit, then left, realizing we either had to exercise with them, or leave. We were told the class occurs three days a week. Then the leader denies it's a class and when they are checked by The Villages pool checkers, they stop exercising and stand there pretending to swim and socialize so they don't get caught. It feels like high school all over again!
OP, I hope you complain to the proper recreation department employees, so they will stop the practice. It will help everyone who is affected by rule-breakers in The Villages. John Rohan is the executive director of the Recreation Department. The issue shouldn't need to get his level, but, if it does, I can almost guarantee that it will be resolved. He gets things done.

Grill Meister 07-25-2024 08:01 AM
Best advice for the Newbie
 
I cannot recommend this hightly enough. Register in The Villages' Residents Academy. Very well done and a great introduction to The Villages:
You can also register in person at one of the District Customer Service Centers or at any Regional Recreation Center. If you have any questions, please call the Customer Service Center at 352-753-4508.

DO IT......you'll be glad your did!:welcome:

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2352669)
fdpaq...you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Exercise classes are ONLY at sports pools, as well as water sports. Check the sports pool section in the rec news. Family/adult pools are NEVER for water aerobics at ANY time. Sports pools are for residents only and you must be over 30. The rules for each pool is posted right on the wall.
I was giving my OPINION, thank you. Suggest you re-read my post just so you will be clear on my OPINION.
One reason for why I believe that the family pool would be the better choice for water exercise classes is it would lessen the impact on those who wish to relax/socialize at the resident adult pool, and those residents who wish to swim or walk or play a sport (water volleyball). The so called family pools are where guests and children should be. Thus, these pools seem more in tune with the noise and "play" type behavior of an exercise class.
Again, I am not saying this is how it is. I am only giving my opinion on how I think it should be.

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Angelhug52 (Post 2352713)
Welcome to the " friendly" Villages. This has been going on for years. The rules are for others since enforcement is non existing. Sad. Best to look at schedule for sports pools and go during open swim, lap swim. And don't dare tell a grand parent to take their family to the family pool. After all the neighborhood pool allows them to hang there! Be careful of dogs loose near mail stations as well. After a while you get use to rule breaking , stay calm, you cannot change things without becoming
the neighborhood grump.
And, keep off my lawn! And that goes for your little dog, too!
Signed, The Neighborhood Grump. šŸ˜”šŸ˜ šŸ¤¬

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Laura T. (Post 2352742)
No, they never asked us to leave, but asked us to join them. We were already there, swimming, talking and enjoying ourselves when people started to come in, telling us they were getting ready for a class, and we were "welcome" to join them. We didn't want to join them, we wanted to keep doing what we were doing, but then there were 24 in the pool, each with a noodle and a set of dumbbells, which left no room for anyone else to even move. Think, 24 people with their arms extended at their sides....leaves no room. We watched a bit, then left, realizing we either had to exercise with them, or leave. We were told the class occurs three days a week. Then the leader denies it's a class and when they are checked by The Villages pool checkers, they stop exercising and stand there pretending to swim and socialize so they don't get caught. It feels like high school all over again!
If you see this happen and have your phone, video it, zoom in on the leaders then pass it up the line. Maybe show it here on TOTV.

wanttoknow 07-25-2024 08:29 AM
Reside in courtyard villa neighborhood which has a family pool. Resident of this community holds regular water aerobics classes. Some of the residents have been asked to coordinate their pool time around the classes. and guess what....nothing can be done about this.

Robojo 07-25-2024 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Laura T. (Post 2352553)
We were originally told that ADULT pools are different from sport pools and family pools in that all sports and classes are held in sport pools, and family pools allow kids. My new village has an ADULT pool. After moving in, hubs and I decided to go for a swim, in the ADULT pool. Within 15 minutes, a group of women filled the pool with equipment for an exercise class and we couldn't swim anymore, and had to leave. We were told these classes are held three days a week, and it occurs at the time of the morning we both have free time to swim. So, did I receive WRONG information about the pools, or are people just refusing to follow the rules so others can't live THEIR dream?
The problem is any time someone goes to use the sports pool it's full of volleyball players. The village just killed my dream of swimming laps every morning cause I can't get up at the crack of dawn to do it

elevatorman 07-25-2024 08:38 AM
Sport Pools
 
Go here on an iPad or computer (phone to small) Flip to your pool. there is also a paper copy at the rec. center near you. https://online.flippingbook.com/view/10419946/40/

tophcfa 07-25-2024 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2352772)
The problem is any time someone goes to use the sports pool it's full of volleyball players. The village just killed my dream of swimming laps every morning cause I can't get up at the crack of dawn to do it
Thatā€™s a legitimate problem, lap swimmers are typically only allocated swimming time either at the crack of dawn, or dusk (especially after the clocks get moved back an hour). And even then, itā€™s often combo swim time where only half the pool has lanes and water walkers sometimes use the swim lanes.

Bill14564 07-25-2024 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wanttoknow (Post 2352770)
Reside in courtyard villa neighborhood which has a family pool. Resident of this community holds regular water aerobics classes. Some of the residents have been asked to coordinate their pool time around the classes. and guess what....nothing can be done about this.
"Some of the residents have been asked to coordinate their pool time around the classes."

From the District Gov information:
"Regularly scheduled water exercise groups are encouraged to use the Sports Pools for this purpose."

"...nothing can be done about this." Nothing can be done about what, being asked to coordinate pool time or answering "no, I won't?"

The adult pools cannot be reserved, particularly for a regularly scheduled group that should really meet at a sports pool. If a group is there exercising and there is no room for you then get their earlier next time. If you are in the adult pool and a group asks you to join or leave then politely say no and they can exercise around you.

There should be a courtesy phone at every pool. If an individual or group is being disruptive, call the responsible rec center and let them know.

But first, let's all try to get along.

nn0wheremann 07-25-2024 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laura T. (Post 2352553)
We were originally told that ADULT pools are different from sport pools and family pools in that all sports and classes are held in sport pools, and family pools allow kids. My new village has an ADULT pool. After moving in, hubs and I decided to go for a swim, in the ADULT pool. Within 15 minutes, a group of women filled the pool with equipment for an exercise class and we couldn't swim anymore, and had to leave. We were told these classes are held three days a week, and it occurs at the time of the morning we both have free time to swim. So, did I receive WRONG information about the pools, or are people just refusing to follow the rules so others can't live THEIR dream?
The Villages is populated from all over the USA, Canada, and the UK, so people bring many regional habits and behaviors with them. Everything from ā€œMinnesota Niceā€ to ā€œLong-guyland Assertiveā€. Most folks follow the rules, but some follow from a greater distance than others, and sometimes rules are interpreted differently. At our adult pool residents of one particular street think they have a monopoly on the pool for a few hours on Mondays. Your poolā€™s exercise group seems a bit possessive with their three day a week activity. Mostly it is a matter of give and take. If you are a serious lap swimmer, you might consider using a sport pool during lap swimming times. Otherwise, get there before the exercisers, and claim your space.

Bill14564 07-25-2024 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2352772)
The problem is any time someone goes to use the sports pool it's full of volleyball players. The village just killed my dream of swimming laps every morning cause I can't get up at the crack of dawn to do it
Quote:
Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2352778)
Thatā€™s a legitimate problem, lap swimmers are typically only allocated swimming time either at the crack of dawn, or dusk (especially after the clocks get moved back an hour). And even then, itā€™s often combo swim time where only half the pool has lanes and water walkers sometimes use the swim lanes.
Legitimate problem but what can be done? Are lap swimmers somehow more deserving of pool time than water walkers, aerobics classes, or volleyball activities? One could argue that lap swimming is the least efficient use of a limited resource with only one person per lane. Water walkers can usually fit two or three per lane and aerobics classes or volleyball games fit even more people into the pool. Most users feel their activity should get more time in the pool and perhaps the schedules could be adjusted but in the end they can't please everyone.

Is the schedule and the usage the same at every sports pool? Perhaps there is a pool that has lap swimming scheduled and lanes available at a more convenient time.

pauld315 07-25-2024 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Laura T. (Post 2352742)
No, they never asked us to leave, but asked us to join them. We were already there, swimming, talking and enjoying ourselves when people started to come in, telling us they were getting ready for a class, and we were "welcome" to join them. We didn't want to join them, we wanted to keep doing what we were doing, but then there were 24 in the pool, each with a noodle and a set of dumbbells, which left no room for anyone else to even move. Think, 24 people with their arms extended at their sides....leaves no room. We watched a bit, then left, realizing we either had to exercise with them, or leave. We were told the class occurs three days a week. Then the leader denies it's a class and when they are checked by The Villages pool checkers, they stop exercising and stand there pretending to swim and socialize so they don't get caught. It feels like high school all over again!
Absolutely not allowed. I am sure this is not a scheduled activity through the recreation department. It is most likely a bunch of neighbors getting together and forming a private "class" Complain to the Recreation department. I know that some people tried doing something similar a few years ago near us and it was quickly stopped. You live in a new area so it could just be ignorance of the rules. They will learn after a complaint is lodged.

CFrance 07-25-2024 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2352667)
adult pools are supervised by the nearest rec center, so go to the nearest rec center and tell them of the situation. they will, then, go to the pool and and find out what's exactly going on. Exercise classes should only be done at sports pools ( residents only and over 30 yo), and only the times listed on the schedule. The schedule can be found in the rec news ( sports pool section) OR on the bulletin board posted outside the locker rooms/bathrooms. I suspect these people are NOT residents.
There have been threads in the past about these groups exercising in adult pools. Tthey won't necessarily do anything about it in the rec center. It has been taken all the way up to John Rohan, and he is reluctant to enforce the rule. Bottom line is TV does not want to anger any resident if they don't have/want to. This was a few years ago, though, so maybe their attitude regarding forcing the exercise group to use the sports pool has changed.
One problem is that the sports pools are jammed with classes and swimmers and sports. There's very little free time for social groups to conduct their own water aerobics. And to join one of the established ones means standing in line for a long time beforehand, hoping to get in.
I'm not in favor of exercise classes being held in adult pools. I'm just stating what the problems are. I have once in the past emailed the rec department about the issue. There was a very noncommittal answer from Rohan.

sallyg 07-25-2024 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2352621)
Yesā€¦ and no. The purpose of the adult pools are to socialize, think large hot tub. But when there is no one in the pool, who is going to report you? You are not disturbing anyone.

So, suppose in the morning you start swimming, you are the only one in the pool, back and forth lengthwise. Or scuba swimming as I have see some people do. Then one or more person comes in the water who wants to walk sideways or just stand and talk with others, then the swimmer should either stop, or swim carefully around not splashing the expensive hairdos carefully kept out of the water by the ladies who have come to cool off and talk etc. When there are more people, like in the winter, mostly standing in the water and talking, no one should try to swim around everyone. If there is room sometimes across the pool, maybe. The thing is use your discretion.

The idea is not to disturb those people who have come to socialize. They are called neighborhood adult pools because that is their intended function. If you want to swim laps or have a class then use the sports pools. That is what they are built for. If you have family under 30 years of age use the family pools, that is what they are built for. If you donā€™t like these rules, donā€™t come to The Villages.

I am not sure I made myself clear, people who come to socialize not only have priority but are doing the intended things. People who come to exercise can do so as long as they are not a nuisance to others. If they do become a nuisance they can, and often will be, reported. Community watch will come out and if they are a nuisance they will be asked to stop.
What??? Since when?

SaucyJim 07-25-2024 09:30 AM
The class was not just a problem for the OP. The class is a problem for the rules of the adult pools. Apparently, this is rocket science. I never go to an adult pool with the intention to swim laps, but I can do some mellow breast strokes either lengthwise or widthwise when no one else is in the way. But I would never expect someone to keep a "lane" clear for me because I AM IN AN ADULT POOL.

When I want to swim laps, I find a sports pool that has open swim scheduled and carve out a roped lane and swim laps. What a concept! These group activities need to be coordinated at sports pools. End of story.

SaucyJim 07-25-2024 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wanttoknow (Post 2352770)
Reside in courtyard villa neighborhood which has a family pool. Resident of this community holds regular water aerobics classes. Some of the residents have been asked to coordinate their pool time around the classes. and guess what....nothing can be done about this.
Nothing can be done? Really? Do I have to reference my "doing heroine in the town square for all to see" example AGAIN? LOL!!

Common sense is not so common after all.

SaucyJim 07-25-2024 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2352772)
The problem is any time someone goes to use the sports pool it's full of volleyball players. The village just killed my dream of swimming laps every morning cause I can't get up at the crack of dawn to do it
There are schedules. I've NEVER gone to a sport pool full of volleyball players because I don't go to sports pools WHEN VOLLEYBALL IS SCHEDULED.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. LOL!

There are many open swim and lap swim opportunities. Rumor has it, most of us (not me - yet) are fully retired. Work with the schedules that exist and try to be flexible. You are retired, after all, right?

Kelevision 07-25-2024 10:39 AM
Sadly, they should be called lazy peoples pools. I looked once and have never actually gone inside the gates in my 3+ years here. I, like you, want to swim. Iā€™ve yet to actually get to a sport pool and yes, itā€™s a bummer. TBH I donā€™t even know where you find the schedule for the sport pools.

retiredguy123 07-25-2024 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2352834)
Sadly, they should be called lazy peoples pools. I looked once and have never actually gone inside the gates in my 3+ years here. I, like you, want to swim. Iā€™ve yet to actually get to a sport pool and yes, itā€™s a bummer. TBH I donā€™t even know where you find the schedule for the sport pools.
Use the free Villages app, go to calendar, search for the name of a regional rec center, like Colony Cottage. It will show you the upcoming activities for that rec center, including the sports pool activities.

Bogie Shooter 07-25-2024 10:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2352834)
Sadly, they should be called lazy peoples pools. I looked once and have never actually gone inside the gates in my 3+ years here. I, like you, want to swim. Iā€™ve yet to actually get to a sport pool and yes, itā€™s a bummer. TBH I donā€™t even know where you find the schedule for the sport pools.
Reread ??? Post 51.

Velvet 07-25-2024 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by crash (Post 2352689)
So do all pools have Velvets rules or just the ones you want to use because these are not the posted pool rules or those at district.gov.
If you donā€™t mind, ā€œVelvetā€™s observationsā€ would be more correct.

Velvet 07-25-2024 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by seecapecod (Post 2352694)
This is the first time in my 4 years in TV that Iā€™ve heard that the adult pools are not for swimming! There are so many other places where one can ā€œsocializeā€ why take over a pool where people could also get some low impact exercise in from swimming or at least walking in the pool.
I didnā€™t say or mean to say you canā€™t swim in adult pools, perhaps I was not clear, only that you canā€™t make yourself into a nuisance. I swim in the adult pools regularly myself, just carefully so I donā€™t disturb the others in the water. If I want to practice speed swimming etc (having been on the swim team for many years) I do it when the pool is empty. And it is considered socializing as you walk and talk in the pools which we often do just like strolling with your family on the street. Light aerobics rarely bothers anyone, you are usually doing it in one spot. Swimming is hard to do without splashing and in one spot.

Velvet 07-25-2024 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2352834)
Sadly, they should be called lazy peoples pools. I looked once and have never actually gone inside the gates in my 3+ years here. I, like you, want to swim. Iā€™ve yet to actually get to a sport pool and yes, itā€™s a bummer. TBH I donā€™t even know where you find the schedule for the sport pools.
You are right, they are lazy, otherwise known as old and vulnerable peopleā€™s pools.

Velvet 07-25-2024 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2352710)
Why those ladies may not be bothering anyone, now they are. It appears if the group should move their excercise time to a ā€œcorrectā€ pool to hold scheduled sessions in.
Yep, or do it a time when youā€™re not going to bother the other residents who also have every right as you do, to enjoy the pool.

Escape Artist 07-25-2024 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Laura T. (Post 2352742)
It feels like high school all over again!
Unfortunately, that summation can be applied to many things in The Villages.

Velvet 07-25-2024 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelhug52 (Post 2352713)
Welcome to the " friendly" Villages. This has been going on for years. The rules are for others since enforcement is non existing. Sad. Best to look at schedule for sports pools and go during open swim, lap swim. And don't dare tell a grand parent to take their family to the family pool. After all the neighborhood pool allows them to hang there! Be careful of dogs loose near mail stations as well. After a while you get use to rule breaking , stay calm, you cannot change things without becoming
the neighborhood grump.
You are absolutely wrong about bringing people into the pool under 30. YOU donā€™t tell the grandparent, Community Watch sorry, I think it is Rec center employees, check IDs etc. Being a senior citizen simply doesnā€™t trump everything.

Velvet 07-25-2024 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2352759)
And, keep off my lawn! And that goes for your little dog, too!
Signed, The Neighborhood Grump. šŸ˜”šŸ˜ šŸ¤¬
Yes, and there is a big difference between being friendly and being a doormat.

Velvet 07-25-2024 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wanttoknow (Post 2352770)
Reside in courtyard villa neighborhood which has a family pool. Resident of this community holds regular water aerobics classes. Some of the residents have been asked to coordinate their pool time around the classes. and guess what....nothing can be done about this.
You are mistaken.

Velvet 07-25-2024 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 2352805)
What??? Since when?
Since the pools were designated into 3 different pools. It was an attempt to try to designate different areas for different interests. So far, for the most part, it has been working and people are happy, though not perfectly happy. Each person wants a pool to themselves, but canā€™t afford one at their house or something. So they try to take over the common pool and get others to join them. This only becomes a problem when the ones not in the group are not able to enjoy the water quietly to themselves. If the group turns into a bully, or anyone turns into a bully then they need to be reported.

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2352780)
"Some of the residents have been asked to coordinate their pool time around the classes."

From the District Gov information:
"Regularly scheduled water exercise groups are encouraged to use the Sports Pools for this purpose."

"...nothing can be done about this." Nothing can be done about what, being asked to coordinate pool time or answering "no, I won't?"

The adult pools cannot be reserved, particularly for a regularly scheduled group that should really meet at a sports pool. If a group is there exercising and there is no room for you then get their earlier next time. If you are in the adult pool and a group asks you to join or leave then politely say no and they can exercise around you.

There should be a courtesy phone at every pool. If an individual or group is being disruptive, call the responsible rec center and let them know.

But first, let's all try to get along.
Sorry, but getting along doesn't compute with some folks. Those that have that "my way or the highway" attitude.

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2352862)
You are mistaken.
Time to kick ass and take names!

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2352861)
Yes, and there is a big difference between being friendly and being a doormat.
100% agree!

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2352772)
The problem is any time someone goes to use the sports pool it's full of volleyball players. The village just killed my dream of swimming laps every morning cause I can't get up at the crack of dawn to do it
Sorry to hear this. There is no reason ,other than maintenance or repair, that half the swim lanes can't be cordoned off for swimming. You can play volleyball on land, if you want to play. The ONLY place you can really swim is in the sports pool. What's next? Water basket ball, water, pickle ball, water golf, water baseball, water mahjong, water karate classes,. I can keep going.
The sports pools are the ONLY place in TV that you can Really, really Actually SWIM! The powers that be should and would, I hope, take that into serious consideration and ensure that swim lanes be kept open for swimmers from dawn to dusk every day.

Velvet 07-25-2024 12:12 PM
I like the idea of ā€œwater Mah Jonggā€ I wonder if that would be classified as an ā€œactivityā€ hmmm?

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 12:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2352815)
There are schedules. I've NEVER gone to a sport pool full of volleyball players because I don't go to sports pools WHEN VOLLEYBALL IS SCHEDULED.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. LOL!

There are many open swim and lap swim opportunities. Rumor has it, most of us (not me - yet) are fully retired. Work with the schedules that exist and try to be flexible. You are retired, after all, right?
Schedules were something you had to deal with when you were working. When you retire, you should be able to do things on YOUR Schedule most of the time.

fdpaq0580 07-25-2024 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2352879)
I like the idea of ā€œwater Mah Jonggā€ I wonder if that would be classified as an ā€œactivityā€ hmmm?
Somehow I didn't picture you as a water-Mahjongg type. I envision you more of a water-šŸ„·(ninja).


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