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Have seen in older neighborhoods that 2am call, groggy (2minutes get dressed) then over to the box, (1-2 minutes to unlock grab unit) then to the house, (1-2 minutes in the dark) carefully placing pads, Waiting for the warm up. Yet nobody has checked for a pulse, starting CPR. After 45 years of training to resurrect the dead, I know my limits, of how long I can maintain compression depth and length of time before need of help. that limit used to be 20 minutes, now 10-12. But I expect that will dwindle as time goes on, and have zero issues admitting that fact. But after 45 years of trauma call, I still can be alert and fully functional at adrenaline rush in less than a minute. Average TV response from EMS is around 3-8 minutes given experience in TV, since 2010. In our home we are good doing CPR, until EMS comes through front door. Just remember as you are calling 911, unlock front door, turn on lights that only takes less then 5 seconds. Then start CPR It’s not hard to ask your highly trained coworker to step aside because they are in need of relief. But I found volunteers get a little testy when someone says time for switch. |
My wife and I left the bubble for dinner, the cost with tip was $98.00. The following day that enjoyment was just a memory, the day after it was gone and we moved on to the next expensive memory. For 100 bucks you might help someone live....and that is the better buy. Our neighborhood has 7 units. Not everyone contributed, and that was ok since there were enough of us that felt the benefit was worth it so we got it done. That was 7 years ago, and as people move in and move out we continue to get dontions from those moving in when they know we have the AED's in the neighborhood. And yes, 2 bucks a week is a lot of money :)
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“It’s theoretically better than CPR because it can restart the heart, whereas CPR is merely a stopgap.” One study found that a defibrillator-CPR combination improved the survival rate over CPR alone (23% versus 14%). |
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One more perspective: our village has had AEDs for around 20 years. I believe not a single one has been used in 20 years. But batteries must be replaced every few years and maintained etc and a plan of action must be in place to use and find the AED and who is the main person, who is the backup etc etc. Are they really worth it? CPR= fast and no cost and is the most effective way to revive a person. This actually just happened to one of our fellow villagers who stopped breathing on a pickleball court. CPR saved his life, not an AED. I am not seeing the value of the AED. It’s not a perfect world and we are all going to die at some point. Maybe it’s better to have a village CPR class instead of buying a bunch of AEDs?
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Yes, CPR is more often an effective remedy. But there are rare times when an AED is really needed to resume the heartbeat. In BOTH cases, CPR is essential and should be started immediately while someone else fetches an AED. BTW, the AED can also do the diagnosis to determine if a shock is needed, but DON'T wait for that. Always start CPR immediately. |
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By the time new batteries are needed there will undoubtedly be some new people that will have the opportunity to contribute then if they choose to. |
My previous post focused on the very different conditions that CPR and AED devices serve. CPR is needed in all cases and is frequently enough to save a life. But there are those rare cases where CPR won't restart a heartbeat. That's when the AEDs make a real difference.
The REAL VALUE of the AED programs hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread. That value is the building of a team of responders in your own neighborhood, along with making available an alerting system for those responders. When a 911 operator alerts EMS teams, a "PulsePoint" alert system is notified at the same time. It sends "CPR Needed" alerts to all trained responders within 1/2 mile of the person who needs attention. That alert system, and a network of trained and willing neighbors is very often able to get to the victim before the EMS teams. In neighborhoods some distance from a fire station, this makes a huge difference. I live in Chitty Chatty and we have a fire station literally "across the street." I've responded to several alerts and in every case there have been multiple neighbors responding and in every case someone has been there to start CPR before the EMS team arrived. Every second counts and the earliest possible CPR is the best remedy. THAT, in my mind, is the value of the program. Without those neighbors, a victim is left waiting ... and probably not spending their fading moments whining about a $100 contribution. |
Just curious…. Where is the closest fire/rescue station to the area of Newell, Dabney & Lake Denham?
I’ve heard Don (GoldWingNut) mention on his videos about the TV’s goal of having a station within 2 miles (I believe) of every home. |
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