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kstew43 03-02-2017 09:35 AM

First rule of real estate

LOCATION ....LOCATION.....LOCATION

graciegirl 03-02-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1367260)
First rule of real estate

LOCATION ....LOCATION.....LOCATION

And I tell you, Fenney will sell, sell, sell.

I am not a Realtor either, nor do I sell homes in any way, shape or form nor ever did. I am an observer of a very successful place. The fastest growing retirement area anywhere.

justjim 03-02-2017 10:12 AM

We are going to take the "bus ride" next week to Fenney to see the latest Village of The Villages for ourselves. Most of the observations have been positive----no surprise ----thanks for the reports everyone! I will reserve my comments until then.

LeeM 03-02-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1367254)
At the present moment Fenny is quite lovely, but the area surrounding Fenny seems to be low income housing or older homes that have not been cared for.

Plus the fact that the Federal mens prison is located directly behind the trees....

If Fenny were to be a truly gated community it might be a safer place to live, but as it stands at the moment, the fencing in front along 468 will be very easy to jump and if the gates are fake, like the rest of the villages, it may not be as safe a enviroment as I am used to in the main villages.

My thought anyway....

This may change over time when all the older distressed homes are bought out by commercial entities, but at this moment....in my opinion, I would be a tad nervous to live there.....

Good points.

Personally I paid more for less house here than I would have gotten in nearby communities for the lifestyle. And that includes EASY access to everything. I am close to square, shopping etc. via golf cart. I think resale value will hold as others want that too. It would make no sense to me to buy in Fenney. It doesn't seem like part of the Villages. How can they connect it? Of course others may not mind the distance etc. and so long as the price is decent relative to other homes outside the Villages than that could be a decent choice for someone.

However, now with reports of potential water shortage (not sure why that water bottling plant was approved) I would be very cautious buying.

Railcruiser 03-02-2017 11:36 AM

Any new info about Fenney
 
Has anyone that has been on The tour heard anything more about planning south of 466 a . The things we are interested hearing about are , Will there eventually be a New town Square. That is important to us. We love the villages but are not as into golf as much as the other activities. Also, a big draw for me is there an actual bike trail or is it just a short walking trail. As much as we love the villages we have looked at many planned communities that are much more liesure walking , biking friendly. You take your life in your hands to get out of my neighborhood to the sidewalk to take a walk. It's very difficult to get out of the way when you're pushing someone in a wheelchair. We tried to get answers from our agent but they are saying they are not getting the information yet

twoplanekid 03-02-2017 11:58 AM

As I stated at the top of the tread, “As others may have differing opinions, I am all ears for those that have made the trip. I will try to make the bus ride in March “. Only time will tell as to the success of Fenney. That said I wish every business entity success! All of the comments are good food for thought.

DeanFL 03-02-2017 12:20 PM

As Bonny says - the other Thread has lots of info; we took the tour and I provided feedback in a posting there.

I would recommend to you - take the tour, or drive down there. Lots of TV sales folks there to ask questions and look thru homes, Rec Center et al. Not sayin' that the Sales folks will have the answers you're looking for... But when we were there Jennifer Parr was there - she should know the answers, or at least provide some solid feedback.

Fenney does have dedicated walking trails, not sure if bikes are allowed. They would know. It's much more country/rural than any other locale in TV right now. Some may like it, others not as you will see in the other Thread.

cmj1210 03-02-2017 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1367260)
First rule of real estate

LOCATION ....LOCATION.....LOCATION

:clap2:

graciegirl 03-02-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeM (Post 1367290)
Good points.

Personally I paid more for less house here than I would have gotten in nearby communities for the lifestyle. And that includes EASY access to everything. I am close to square, shopping etc. via golf cart. I think resale value will hold as others want that too. It would make no sense to me to buy in Fenney. It doesn't seem like part of the Villages. How can they connect it? Of course others may not mind the distance etc. and so long as the price is decent relative to other homes outside the Villages than that could be a decent choice for someone.

However, now with reports of potential water shortage (not sure why that water bottling plant was approved) I would be very cautious buying.

Not to worry. It will rain every day soon.
Read this...it isn't just here...

District Water Restrictions

Arubagirl33 03-02-2017 01:50 PM

I was told "No Premiers". They don't show any on the three phases of the map, either.

golfing eagles 03-02-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeM (Post 1367290)
Good points.

Personally I paid more for less house here than I would have gotten in nearby communities for the lifestyle. And that includes EASY access to everything. I am close to square, shopping etc. via golf cart. I think resale value will hold as others want that too. It would make no sense to me to buy in Fenney. It doesn't seem like part of the Villages. How can they connect it? Of course others may not mind the distance etc. and so long as the price is decent relative to other homes outside the Villages than that could be a decent choice for someone.

However, now with reports of potential water shortage (not sure why that water bottling plant was approved) I would be very cautious buying.

They've already bought up most of the land between Fenney and 44, and plan to put 14,000 new homes there over the next decade. Just need a bridge or tunnel to traverse 44 and thus connected. This will put 466A just about the middle of TV, where there was nothing 5 years ago

Reiver 03-02-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeM (Post 1367290)
(not sure why that water bottling plant was approved)

The plant is approved to use 496,000 gallons of water daily.
The Villages uses 23 million gallons per day.
The plant will use the same amount of water as 2,156 people.

2BNTV 03-02-2017 04:32 PM

No worries. More and more people are retiring everyday, so there will be a plethora of people, who will move here! I would never want to deny someone living in this paradise. I just hope the traffic won't be like when the snowbirds are here since they will build 14,000 homes.

Samo samo. There will another person, to buy if one passes on a particular house. :smiley:

Back to the Fenny discussion.

Hey Nucky, since Fenny is south of your present home, will you be using that for the winter months? :D

Paperboy 03-02-2017 05:04 PM

Thank you!

BeetleBailey 03-03-2017 07:53 AM

Agree with all you said, except the water given to my wife and I was warm. Guess they forgot to put ice in their large cooler.

DeanFL 03-03-2017 08:46 AM

We went on the Fenney tour Tuesday (previous posting review). Asked about Premiers. Answer, yes they will have section with Premiers-but not in the first few Phases. One of the Designer open house models had an interior Premier-like. 12' ceilings, 8' interior doors etc.

It's a nice way to spend a few hours down there and stroll around and check out the homes. Even if it's not your cup of tea to live a bit 'country/rural'.

We 'heard' late last year that TV has approvals for up to 9 GC tunnels under 44. From a very good 'source'. We KNEW TV would not buildout as rumored last year(s). Why would they build Brownwood on the southern tip of TV if not having pland for the southern expansion...

The "water" commentary....GRRRRRR. I was having a nice morning till THAT topic came up. oh well.

thelegges 03-03-2017 09:29 AM

If there was no water, it would be a problem. If there was ice cold water for .50 a problem. Free bottled water, still a problem.:girlneener:

SALYBOW 03-03-2017 09:34 AM

I heard last night that there are only 1800 lots left

GrandmaP 03-04-2017 12:06 PM

I believe they assume that since you can't use your golf cart to reach The Villages proper, you might want to rent one instead of buying to drive around Fenney. As far as scenery, when completed it's going to be beautiful. Home prices slightly lower but remember higher Wildwood property taxes. A few patio villas with 2 car garages or additional golf cart garage. Very nice for seasonal residents. I can see myself, in 10 years at age 80, tired of the traffic and wanting a smaller, private village similar to Spruce Creek. Lake Deaton will probably be built up by then for food, gas, drug store, maybe fast food. I don't see how anyone could scoff at The Village of Fenney. A place for everyone......................................

Northwoods 03-04-2017 10:15 PM

I took the Fenny tour. I was very impressed. First - The Villages did an excellent job of planning and staffing the tour. My impression was that the houses were a little less expensive than a comparable home in The Villages. There were some nice upgrades (gas ranges, nicer lighting fixtures, etc). Fenny has some nice old trees (it wasn't built in a pasture). Today - Fenny isn't golf cart accessible to the rest of the Villages. But honestly -- I live near Brownwood and I drive to most places in The Villages. I was told that if you want to golf an executive course before the 2 exec. courses open in Fenny you will have access to a cart at Exec courses if you own a home in Fenny (my impression was it's free). Once the Exec. courses are open in Fenny - that goes away. As far as championship courses, I was told that you will have access to a cart, free of charge, at any championship course if you live in Fenny. But - that means championship course golfers will have to load their clubs in their car and drive over to the course. That might be an issue for serious golfers. The other issue I see is that the only restaurant option is a "grill" at one of the rec. centers. You'll have to get in your car and drive to restaurants. But again -- Fenny is very nice and not as crowded as The Villages (I didn't see a roundabout!!!)... and if you're not a serious golfer or don't drive your golf cart to everything... Fenny is a great option.

JoMar 03-04-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandmaP (Post 1368156)
I believe they assume that since you can't use your golf cart to reach The Villages proper, you might want to rent one instead of buying to drive around Fenney. As far as scenery, when completed it's going to be beautiful. Home prices slightly lower but remember higher Wildwood property taxes. A few patio villas with 2 car garages or additional golf cart garage. Very nice for seasonal residents. I can see myself, in 10 years at age 80, tired of the traffic and wanting a smaller, private village similar to Spruce Creek. Lake Deaton will probably be built up by then for food, gas, drug store, maybe fast food. I don't see how anyone could scoff at The Village of Fenney. A place for everyone......................................

With the initial estimate of 14,000 homes I suspect in 10 years it will look and feel much like TV above 44. Not saying that's a bad thing only that the density will increase significantly and the smaller private village feel will disappear and be as we experience it now.

SALYBOW 03-04-2017 10:59 PM

My neighbor and souuse went on the tour, She said the cheapest dwsigner was 400,000 dollars Yikes.

graciegirl 03-05-2017 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 1368426)
My neighbor and souuse went on the tour, She said the cheapest dwsigner was 400,000 dollars Yikes.

Hi Sally. I miss seeing you. Coffee pot is always on.

This made me curious. I looked on The Villages site.Here is a Jasmine in Fenney and it is selling for $248.

The Villages - Search for New, Pre-owned Homes and Villas in The Villages, Florida

jojo 03-05-2017 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 1368426)
My neighbor and souuse went on the tour, She said the cheapest dwsigner was 400,000 dollars Yikes.

We went on the tour yesterday and the house prices for those houses on display included furnishings.

Lovey2 03-05-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jojo (Post 1368486)
We went on the tour yesterday and the house prices for those houses on display included furnishings.

We went on the tour Thursday and were told specifically that the furnishings were NOT included. However, the prices on the homes that were open were for THAT home ON THAT LOT, as you see it, except for the furnishings. Most of those homes were on lots with water view or actually the lake itself. Many had pools and/or outdoor kitchens, or spas and all had large lanai's. With that thought in mind I felt like they were priced fairly. I'm talking about the designers. Not necessarily disputing what you were told, but this is what we were told.

DeanFL 03-05-2017 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 1368426)
My neighbor and souuse went on the tour, She said the cheapest dwsigner was 400,000 dollars Yikes.


Not correct - All walk-thru MODELS had the total price for that home incl all the upgrades, lot (premium) - furniture not included in $. So as TV Sales had in other Open Houses in new 'hoods' at TV over the years - the $$$ was for each model home shown. And most were on super-premium lots with huge lanais and pools.

Per the Daily Sun ad:

Designer homes from:
$220s & $230s

Cottage Homes:
$180s

Patio Villas:
$130s

Bungalow Villas:
$200s

and, was told during our tour that Premiers were planned in a future phase.

and per paper, Tours are sold out, but from 3/6-3/12 9:30a-1pm. trolleys running from Brownwood Sales offc - first come first serve - no appts.

It is a nice way to spend a few hours - planning to move or not...

pauld315 03-05-2017 08:53 AM

I remember a lot of the same arguments when the area around Brownwood was being developed. Higher crime risks, too far from everything etc etc. I also heard last year that TV already has at least applied for permits to build tunnels under 44. Fenney is the first Village simply because that location already had the permits needed and all the environmental impact studies etc done because another developer was going to develop that site. In a short while, all that land between 44 and TV will look just like the rest of TV and will be accessible by golf cart to all of TV. Also, Fenney is in Sumter County so the taxes are less than the new homes being built in Lake County (Pine Hills etc) Did anyone hear how much the bond is going to be in Fenney ?

Fraugoofy 03-05-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SALYBOW (Post 1368426)
My neighbor and souuse went on the tour, She said the cheapest dwsigner was 400,000 dollars Yikes.

I am the first to admit I really like to drink, but wouldn't really like to be referred to as a souse by my friends and neighbors!

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DeanFL 03-05-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1368509)
Also, Fenney is in Sumter County so the taxes are less than the new homes being built in Lake County (Pine Hills etc) Did anyone hear how much the bond is going to be in Fenney ?

I asked re BOND during our tour. The sales reps were not absolutely sure - but they believe similar rates as other Sumter Co Districts - For the $550K model home with a premium sized lot, they said "probably $29K". And Villas "probably $22K".
Of course best source would be direct to TV Sales.

dave from deland 03-05-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1367060)
Neither. Go south on Morse and cross 44 and it then turns into 468; the road is called Morse north of 44 and it is called 468 south of 44. Just continue for a few miles and you will see Fenney on the left.

Be sure to take the guided trolly tour. It is unlawful (and dangerous) to enter a construction area in your personal vehicle. No trespassing signs with the state statute number are posted at the entrances.

ColdNoMore 03-05-2017 04:32 PM

Given the remote location and relative lack of amenities of Fenney, it's not surprising that The Developer has rolled out the red carpet...and is bending over backward to get people to move there. :shrug:

Nugent47 03-05-2017 05:33 PM

Thanks for the information. Hope to take the tour in April.

graciegirl 03-05-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1368742)
Given the remote location and relative lack of amenities of Fenney, it's not surprising that The Developer has rolled out the red carpet...and is bending over backward to get people to move there. :shrug:

No shortage of interest. Lots of Boomers. Good sales practice. I was in sales. Welcoming is better than pushing.

thelegges 03-05-2017 07:12 PM

No one is making you buy anywhere. It's still your choice to buy TV proper, or off site. If you are not interested, just don't take the trolley. People said no one would buy south of 466a and yet houses sold. Fenny will have a certain clientele. Not a worry for me one way or another

HoosierPa 03-05-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1367357)
They've already bought up most of the land between Fenney and 44, and plan to put 14,000 new homes there over the next decade. Just need a bridge or tunnel to traverse 44 and thus connected. This will put 466A just about the middle of TV, where there was nothing 5 years ago

Crossing the Turnpike will be a bigger challenge than 44 for The Developer to gain golf cart access to the current Villages

Reiver 03-05-2017 10:55 PM

Can't be much harder than crossing 6 lanes of US-27.

Nucky 03-05-2017 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraugoofy (Post 1368510)
I am the first to admit I really like to drink, but wouldn't really like to be referred to as a souse by my friends and neighbors!

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Peace Out! :jester:

twoplanekid 03-06-2017 08:36 AM

From a listing of 66 houses for sale in Fenney on February 28th from thevillages web site to 60 today, they are selling about 1 home per day. Or, you could say 10% of their current new houses for sale in Fenney have been sold. This is assuming that new builds have not been added to the inventory during that week.

golfing eagles 03-06-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1368962)
From a listing of 66 houses for sale in Fenney on February 28th from thevillages web site to 60 today, they are selling about 1 home per day. Or, you could say 10% of their current new houses for sale in Fenney have been sold. This is assuming that new builds have not been added to the inventory during that week.

"Build it, and they will come"

oot 03-06-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dave from deland (Post 1368687)
Be sure to take the guided trolly tour. It is unlawful (and dangerous) to enter a construction area in your personal vehicle. No trespassing signs with the state statute number are posted at the entrances.

If you try to enter without being on one of the tours, they will turn you around. Even if you try to access it by bike.


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