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Duppa 03-29-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1171560)
When The Villages makes a formal announcement or we see it coming out of the ground, we shall then know. :D

With today's news on the new Village of Finney, we now have an answer to Bonny, a little more news of THE plan... The builder/developers "build" will be several miles from The Villages proper... So, as a "first look" at south of 44 development, that question has been definitely answered: the developer has plans to build a substantial development south of 44, some distance from Brownwood, Rohan, and the rest of The Villages south of 466a and above 44.

The question begged in this original post, also hits on commercial use and the Turnpike access off 468... If The Village of Finney is X and The Villages proper is Y, what is to become of Z, the space between X and Y? It would seem that Z and all the land that hugs the Turnpike would make an attractive addition to the TV universe.

As a newbie here, who has studied TV from afar... but now am happily among your numbers, I am absolutely fascinated with TV, its history and continuing development.. For all the world I've traveled, TV is by far the most amazing place for seniors to live... I applaud the developer, I applaud my fellow TVers... I look forward to continuing my life here... and reporting on its growth (rumors, truths, facts and all)... You got your fun, all about TV is my fun! ;)

RickeyD 03-30-2016 12:16 PM

News for New Areas South
 
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Originally Posted by Duppa (Post 1205825)
With today's news on the new Village of Finney, we now have an answer to Bonny, a little more news of THE plan... The builder/developers "build" will be several miles from The Villages proper... So, as a "first look" at south of 44 development, that question has been definitely answered: the developer has plans to build a substantial development south of 44, some distance from Brownwood, Rohan, and the rest of The Villages south of 466a and above 44.



The question begged in this original post, also hits on commercial use and the Turnpike access off 468... If The Village of Finney is X and The Villages proper is Y, what is to become of Z, the space between X and Y? It would seem that Z and all the land that hugs the Turnpike would make an attractive addition to the TV universe.



As a newbie here, who has studied TV from afar... but now am happily among your numbers, I am absolutely fascinated with TV, its history and continuing development.. For all the world I've traveled, TV is by far the most amazing place for seniors to live... I applaud the developer, I applaud my fellow TVers... I look forward to continuing my life here... and reporting on its growth (rumors, truths, facts and all)... You got your fun, all about TV is my fun! ;)



If you watch how they build a Village here, the perimeter gets built first, then the interior.
If Fenney is the perimeter, then ...

graciegirl 03-30-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Duppa (Post 1205825)
With today's news on the new Village of Finney, we now have an answer to Bonny, a little more news of THE plan... The builder/developers "build" will be several miles from The Villages proper... So, as a "first look" at south of 44 development, that question has been definitely answered: the developer has plans to build a substantial development south of 44, some distance from Brownwood, Rohan, and the rest of The Villages south of 466a and above 44.

The question begged in this original post, also hits on commercial use and the Turnpike access off 468... If The Village of Finney is X and The Villages proper is Y, what is to become of Z, the space between X and Y? It would seem that Z and all the land that hugs the Turnpike would make an attractive addition to the TV universe.

As a newbie here, who has studied TV from afar... but now am happily among your numbers, I am absolutely fascinated with TV, its history and continuing development.. For all the world I've traveled, TV is by far the most amazing place for seniors to live... I applaud the developer, I applaud my fellow TVers... I look forward to continuing my life here... and reporting on its growth (rumors, truths, facts and all)... You got your fun, all about TV is my fun! ;)



I have LOVED watching this place unfold since we moved here several years ago. It is much better than places that vote for a mayor and listen to folks who need this or that and it is never used. It appears that the family have that precious commodity called common sense and a nice work ethic to go along with it. They provided services for us until outside business takes them over. That appears to be the plan. They are loyal to the people who work for them because their head builders have been with them for a long time. Many folks, such as Mike's Maintenance who take care of the green area, came with Gary Morse from Michigan. They seem to seek skill and loyalty and high effort from the folks who work for them.


If we could figure out how to run the country like this place is run we would be far better off.


Gotta run to Publix. I am low on grape Koolaid.

Bonny 03-30-2016 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Duppa (Post 1205825)
With today's news on the new Village of Finney, we now have an answer to Bonny, a little more news of THE plan... The builder/developers "build" will be several miles from The Villages proper... So, as a "first look" at south of 44 development, that question has been definitely answered: the developer has plans to build a substantial development south of 44, some distance from Brownwood, Rohan, and the rest of The Villages south of 466a and above 44.

The question begged in this original post, also hits on commercial use and the Turnpike access off 468... If The Village of Finney is X and The Villages proper is Y, what is to become of Z, the space between X and Y? It would seem that Z and all the land that hugs the Turnpike would make an attractive addition to the TV universe.

As a newbie here, who has studied TV from afar... but now am happily among your numbers, I am absolutely fascinated with TV, its history and continuing development.. For all the world I've traveled, TV is by far the most amazing place for seniors to live... I applaud the developer, I applaud my fellow TVers... I look forward to continuing my life here... and reporting on its growth (rumors, truths, facts and all)... You got your fun, all about TV is my fun! ;)

Not sure why I was quoted that you have an answer for me, I never asked a question. LOL
We have been here 16 years and I have loved watching the Villages grow.
I learned a long time ago not to listen to the rumor mill. When I see an announcement or it's coming out of the ground, then I'll know for sure.
We bought in The Village of Santiago in 1999. It was the end of the Villages. :)
If property is going to be developed, I'm just happy that the Villages is developing it. Everything is always top notch. :eclipsee_gold_cup:
We love living here and thank the Morse Family for giving us such an awesome place to live. Keep on building. :crap2: :)

billethkid 03-30-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierPa (Post 1178621)
The area that is cleared for Commercial next to Rohan Rec. Center appears to be about the same size or larger than Traverse just down 44 across from Brownwood so I would assume it will be a similar type of strip center with other businesses all golf cart accessible. This will be much needed once Ocseola and Labelle are completed. Now I just wish they would fill up Brownwood with Businesses already. I would assume the rent is mighty high priced.

If one does some research they would find that TV commercial space is priced at the same level as retail space in the more viable shopping centers.

TV rent and "getting their cut" have surpassed urban legend status.

The worst source of rent information in TV? An owner of a business that could not make it go here.

2BNTV 03-31-2016 10:51 AM

There was an article in the DS, that talked about renting businesses in TV.
I believe John Rohan stated they lease to businesses they feel have a good chance of succeeding. Eventually, all the businesses slots will be filled in Brownwood.

I know a few have gone under but who's to say they were not run the right way as we know a lot of businesses fail.

Duupa: Population is about 118,00 the last I read in the DS.

I had breakfast with a gentlemen who moved here 22 years ago before SS was built. I was amazed at the growth he had witnessed. He is still happy at the way , TV has grown.

GaryW 03-31-2016 01:49 PM

I can agree with Bonny all day on no one knows till Big Daddy M lets you know.
I remember the original Sumter County master plan map that I still have from years back.

Antrim Dells was suppose to be a big and beautiful shopping retail space on the west side of Brownwood, and the new Hospital on the east side of Brownwood. That changed from day to day depending on or should I say where you were standing. What time of day you were standing there, and if the wind was blowing.

I can not remember how many times things have change back and forth. I attend construction meetings, and can tell you we do not hear it till the last second.
Just sayin...... :22yikes:

Bonny 03-31-2016 01:52 PM

My stepson is a realtor for the Villages and they don't know anything until the powers that be decide it's time to tell them.

2BNTV 03-31-2016 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=Bonny;1206694]My stepson is a realtor for the Villages and they don't know anything until the powers that be decide it's time to tell them.[/QUOTE]

and then we find out after that! I say Amen to that statement. :smiley:

jbdlfan 03-31-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1206382)
If one does some research they would find that TV commercial space is priced at the same level as retail space in the more viable shopping centers.

TV rent and "getting their cut" have surpassed urban legend status.

The worst source of rent information in TV? An owner of a business that could not make it go here.

They just admitted in the DS a few days ago that they indeed do have customer leases that require a "cut." I believe the number was around 6-7% of current leases. I believe also that is in direct contradiction to a statement by Tutt or someone else in authority late last year.(some of us call that a fabrication or a lie) So no, not urban legend. My guess is that originally this was a more common practice when they had a smaller leasing base.

outlaw 04-01-2016 08:29 AM

Interesting how so many Morse fans seem to relish being kept in the dark regarding future development/expansion plans. And to tout the Morse business practice of keeping their employees in the dark shows just how gullible people can be. I'm starting to understand why seniors need special protected class laws to protect them from being taken advantage of.

Bonny 04-01-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1206947)
Interesting how so many Morse fans seem to relish being kept in the dark regarding future development/expansion plans. And to tout the Morse business practice of keeping their employees in the dark shows just how gullible people can be. I'm starting to understand why seniors need special protected class laws to protect them from being taken advantage of.

I don't see it that way at all. Everything starts out a plan, but things change throughout that planning process. My guess is until everything is set in stone, those plans aren't told because many changes will take place.
Why would this mean anyone is gullible and how would this have anything to do with people being taken advantage of ?

asianthree 04-01-2016 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1206947)
Interesting how so many Morse fans seem to relish being kept in the dark regarding future development/expansion plans. And to tout the Morse business practice of keeping their employees in the dark shows just how gullible people can be. I'm starting to understand why seniors need special protected class laws to protect them from being taken advantage of.

Really did you just say we aren't bright enough to know what going on. Do you think tesla let people know a year ago that they were releasing a new car that only cost $35,000. what makes you think the developer is keeping us in the dark OK GG jump in on this one. I have to shut up

Bonny 04-01-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1206956)
Really did you just say we aren't bright enough to know what going on. Do you think tesla let people know a year ago that they were releasing a new car that only cost $35,000. what makes you think the developer is keeping us in the dark OK GG jump in on this one. I have to shut up

I agree. I'm not a stupid person and definitely not gullible. No one has to tell anyone anything until they feel the time is right. Their property, their money. ;)

joldnol 04-01-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 1206727)
They just admitted in the DS a few days ago that they indeed do have customer leases that require a "cut." I believe the number was around 6-7% of current leases. I believe also that is in direct contradiction to a statement by Tutt or someone else in authority late last year.(some of us call that a fabrication or a lie) So no, not urban legend. My guess is that originally this was a more common practice when they had a smaller leasing base.

And when asked if rents were excessive he evaded the question with a "they knew what they were getting into when they signed the lease" type of statement....


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