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Indydealmaker 11-24-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 786137)
In that case driver is completely wrong. You should never enter a round-a-bout at 6:00 in the right lane if your intention is to exit at 9:00. The right hand lane is for 3:00 and 12:00 ONLY. If you are in the right hand lane, you need to move to the left hand lane before you get into the round-a-bout or move over where the dashed lines are within the round-about.

I have a problem almost every week, where I enter a round-a-bout at 6:00 in the left lane intending to exit at 9:00. The problem occurs when I exit, I need to get into the right hand lane to go through the resident gate. sometimes cars are entering in the right hand lane right behind me and I have to change lanes. I am very aware of this always just super careful.

What I was pointing out is that we can have a problem even when all parties are following the rules.

Residents can enter through either lane.

DDoug 11-24-2013 10:55 AM

So what happens if I enter at 9:45 am do I have to wait till 12 noon to exit or and if so where should I park ( I hate these circles )

cquick 11-24-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kathyzapp (Post 785756)
I really don't want to start another roundabout thread, but.......

Yesterday as I was exiting a roundabout in the left lane, a car turned left (practically in front of my car) from the right lane.

Same thing happened today.

We had three close calls last winter in the same situation.

No left turns from the right lane!

I know! People just cant figure out that roundabouts are just like a 4 way stop in that you can't turn left from the right lane....it never ends!

cquick 11-24-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 786143)
So what happens if I enter at 9:45 am do I have to wait till 12 noon to exit or and if so where should I park ( I hate these circles )

I'm sorry, but I don't understand...do you mean if you think of a roundabout like a clock face? Or what?:confused:

cquick 11-24-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 786033)
The great thing about roundabouts is that they keep traffic moving. If there were four way stops at all the intersections, traffic would be so bogged down it would be unbelievable. The roadway system in The Villages would just not be able to handle the volume of cars in the high season. The bad thing about roundabouts is that if one person disobeys the rules, it mucks it up for the other drivers in the roundabouts.

I SO agree with you! I love the roundabouts!

getdul981 11-24-2013 11:29 AM

Indy - It would be wonderful if The Sun would print your diagram on the front page of the paper several times, like every Sunday or at least once or twice a month. The signs installed prior to entering the circles are great, but I have a feeling that many people are so anxious about entering the circles that they just ignore them.

cquick 11-24-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scrubjay (Post 785774)
I hit a lady Thursday on Moris near 466. I was in the left lane going stright through and she was in the right lane going stright then moved over in my lane.
What a mess she made of the left side of her car.

I am so sorry, but if you were going straight, you had the right of way, not her, she technically hit you!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-24-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 786142)
Residents can enter through either lane.

Yea, I realized that I had said that and tried to revise my post but somehow they got deleted. Here is a better explanation.As you can see it can happen whether you are in the right or left hand lane.

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In that case driver is completely wrong. You should never enter a round-a-bout at 6:00 in the right lane if your intention is to exit at 9:00. The right hand lane is for 3:00 and 12:00 ONLY. If you are in the right hand lane, you need to move to the left hand lane before you get into the round-a-bout or move over where the dashed lines are within the round-about.

I have a problem almost every week, where I enter a round-a-bout at 6:00 in the left lane intending to exit at 9:00. The problem occurs when I need to exit. Sometimes cars are entering, at what is 12:00 to me, in the right hand lane and right behind me. They are going around to the point where I entered. (6:00 to me and 12:00 to them) If I try to take my exit, I am going to have to cut in front of them.

The problem is worse when there are three or four cars entering there are the same time. If I don't cut in front of the first one, I'd have to stop in the left hand lane of the round-a-about until all cars go by.

I am very aware of this always just super careful. I try to make eye contact with the driver entering the round-a-bout and sometimes point to where I'm going

What I was pointing out is that we can have a problem even when all parties are following the rules.

cquick 11-24-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 785801)
All this confusion would be solved if round-a-bouts were just one lane. Down in S. Florida in Hollywood there is one which is about 3 lanes and you can imagine how much fun that is.

try driving in a big city in England where one roundabout leads into another roundabout...called a double donut, cars coming in and exiting all over the place, and then try to read the name of the city you want to go to at the same time, then you would think that The Villages are easy!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-24-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cquick (Post 786166)
I'm sorry, but I don't understand...do you mean if you think of a roundabout like a clock face? Or what?:confused:

Doug is making a joke. I was the one who brought up the clock face analogy because that is the easiest wand clearest way to understand what we are talking about. I hear people talking about making left hand turns out of the round-a-bouts and I and I think many of us are confused.

So yes, think of a round-a-bout as a clock face. Where you enter is 6:00 the first exist is 3:00 the second exit is 12:00 and the third exit is 9:00.

Problems can arise when cars are entering the round-a-bout from different point even when everyone is obeying the rules.

cquick 11-24-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 785900)
I think that problems occur when cars enter the round-a-bout at 6:00 go into the left lane, and intend to go straight through and exit at 12:00. A car enters the round-a-bot at 3:00 at approximately the same time stays in the right lane and intends to go straight through and exit at 9:00. The car in the right hand lane will be cutting across the bow of the car in the left hand lane. You have to watch out for this. Both drivers are following the rules, but there could be an issue if the car in the left hand lane isn't paying attention.

This little diagram is nice, but it doesn't address cars entering at close to the same time from different points. It only shows two cars entering from 6:00.

If you are already in the roundabout, the person at 3:00 is supposed to yield to you, so there would be no problem

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-24-2013 11:41 AM

Also, look at the diagram posted by Indydealmaker. You can, in fact change lanes in a round-a-bout. That's why there are dashed lines in some areas.

I think that most of the problems occur when people are exiting the round-a-bouts from the left hand lane, which is perfectly legal and in fact the proper procedure in some cases. It might actually be better if the law was that you can only exit from the right hand lane and if you're in the left, you need to change lanes before you exit.

billethkid 11-24-2013 11:47 AM

one just needs to remember that in TV there is a significant part of the population that DOES NOT:

>stop for stop signs
>does not obey the rules of the road in round-a-bouts
>does not do the speed limit
>does not repair ball marks on the greens
>does not (and will not) play ready golf

MAny blame it on the age of the population. I disagree; I don't remember getting less polite or less attentive or less obeying the law than I did 20 years ago.

I do agree some of these things are affected by age. I also believe there are far too many (senior seniors) behind the wheel that should not be.

The biggest culprit in the pile? ATTITUDE!!

Add them all up and there is only one answer.....get there and do it first (just kidding).......

Ave your breath and DRIVE DEFENSIVELY!!!

btk

Eve2278 11-24-2013 12:10 PM

Dotted lines are the issue...
 
The signage going North/ South is clearly marked for roundabouts.

This is not rocket science but certainly agree the dotted lines is what has everyone confused and crossing over

THINK ahead before you get to a circle and simply remember:

Right lane...go straight or exit to right

Left lane....go straight or around circle ...end of story!

NEVER EVER CROSS OVER IN CIRCLE....stay in your lane

CONFUSION is the dotted lines!

Dotted lines applies only to cars ENTERING into circle FROM the side subdivisions.

(Seriously if there were solid lines in a circle, people from the side would think, "well how am I suppose to go around the circle")

Dotted lines apply only for them

The white line is advising the cars coming from the SIDE they are allowed to cross over the circle to go around the circle., therefore a "dotted line"

gomoho 11-24-2013 12:29 PM

IMHO - if only everyone would properly yield the problem would be solved. Woulda, shoulda, coulda.


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