Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 891185)

Fewer accidents than what? How many accidents have you seen or heard about in roundabouts here? And of any roundabout accidents you know of (if any) how many have been serious? There have been many, many serious accidents caused by red light runners at lighted intersections on Buena Vista, Morse, 466 & 466A. And the traffic backups that would be caused by lights or stop signs all the way up Morse and Buena Vista would be crazy



What "never ending problems"? Large volumes of traffic have been successfully maneuvering through the roundabouts in The Villages for years, with very few incidents. I feel totally comfortable in roundabouts, as does everyone I know who have been here for awhile and are half-decent drivers. You're right about one thing, traffic lights are safe unless someone runs them...which happens much more frequently, and with much more serious results than the occasional fender bender in a roundabout.

The traffic engineers got it right.

And for all of the folks out there who are thinking about moving here, and might be worrying about roundabouts...don't worry. They work, and once you get the hang of them, they are easy and efficient.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 891447)

Is it now over?

Originally Posted by SantaClaus (Post 891237)

We used to have a plain stop sign intersection at the end of our road, which teed into a more heavily travelled road. It would sometimes back up 20 cars deep because someone was trying to make a left and just couldn't get a break. They have since replaced it with a roundabout and traffic never backs up and I can't remember the last time I even had to come to a full stop before entering.my biggest problem is the folks who completely ignore the 15mph signs and barrel through at 35-40! But even with such dolts the roundabout is better since accidents are prone to be glancing blows instead of right angle impacts.

The best multi-lane roundabouts I've seen are at Hilton Head, they keep the right turn traffic completely isolated:
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 891250)

That is the way some helpful person on this forum taught me to think of roundabouts several years ago when we first came, and I have noticed the broken lines allowing you to cross over the outside lane to get to the gate. It IS an intersection, and if people would think of it as one, they would find themselves in the correct lane, yielding to everyone, not just the person in the lane they want to be in, and not using so much sign language.

I still think they're a dumb idea.

Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 891519)

Originally Posted by SantaClaus (Post 891526)

I guess the "'Nuff said" was meant to close the conversation, but I wanted to add that though Hilton Head is a bigger circle than the typical one at TV, the basic idea, segregating right turn traffic, works well in even smaller circles. The last picture is another Raleigh circle, that works like Hilton Head, but in a much smaller space than at TV. It looks confusing overhead, but it's quite easy at ground level. I really think the circles at TV could be vastly improved with new stripping (and maybe a tiny bit of new asphalt). I think the general idea that the inner lane has the option to exit while the outer lane has the option not to is a serious design flaw. Attachment 43239Attachment 43240Attachment 43241

Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 891514)

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 891706)

Cyndy,
I'm learning as much as I can. There is abundant research yet to tap nationally. Haven't had time to talk to the sumter co. dept of transportation, who I hope will know more than anyone, and of especial interest, the ambiguous, and weird significance of dotted lines that don't universally mean the driver may cross at will.

If something needs to change with roundabouts, let's back it up with data. So far, all research I find, even internationally, granted it's highly technical and contains formulas I don't understand, but the data supports roundabouts as a safer option than stops and highly recommended option.

but something is missing when there are numerous accidents here, no one agrees on rules, deputies throw up their hands, the regulations to not change lanes conflict with the resident lane designation...I'm not done, Bogie.

Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 891835)

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