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JoMar 08-15-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Schuvwj (Post 1817989)
That is exactly what they said in New York! We don’t need or want any of that crap!

What crap?

jojo 08-15-2020 05:26 PM

Unfortunate heading
 
Given the current tensions in the commissioner race, it is truly unfortunate that this thread is labeled "no more entertainment at the squares." I'm not familiar with Mr. Miller but I do know that this is not an agenda item of Gary Search and Claude Estep. What a disservice to the challengers to make presumptions that are not the case.

angiefox10 08-15-2020 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jojo (Post 1818089)
Given the current tensions in the commissioner race, it is truly unfortunate that this thread is labeled "no more entertainment at the squares." I'm not familiar with Mr. Miller but I do know that this is not an agenda item of Gary Search and Claude Estep. What a disservice to the challengers to make presumptions that are not the case.

This is an over reaction to keep EMS from getting in. I assure you there will be entertainment at the squares. The Developers don't depend on that money for the entertainment. I can assure you of that.

One of the very first meetings I went to one of the commissioners made it clear that with them it was "one for all and all for one". That's exactly what we have seen over the years. No discussion.. 5 to 0 DONE!


What will be different with this election. If EMS gets voted in... It won't be one for all and all for one. Just because one feels that something will be a certain way, if the others don't agree, they will get to discuss and vote. We will start seeing 3 to 2 or 4 to 1 or maybe 5 to 0 but we will be seeing the different personalities come out and know what they are voting for and why.
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angiefox10 08-15-2020 06:00 PM

The people who have started this rumor don't want EMS to win so no matter what, they won't let go of the rope. I only hope people are smart enough to see through it for what it is... .an election ploy.

Northwoods 08-15-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 1818104)
The people who have started this rumor don't want EMS to win so no matter what, they won't let go of the rope. I only hope people are smart enough to see through it for what it is... .an election ploy.

You say it's a rumor. Did Oren say he would not vote to fund Square Entertainment?

You say The Developer will step in and fund square entertainment. Have you talked to The Developer? Have they given you assurances that they will step up to fund it?

You're assuming. That's a dangerous thing to do.

angiefox10 08-15-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1818112)
You say it's a rumor. Did Oren say he would not vote to fund Square Entertainment?

You say The Developer will step in and fund square entertainment. Have you talked to The Developer? Have they given you assurances that they will step up to fund it?

You're assuming. That's a dangerous thing to do.


It's a rumor because people want everyone to believe that if they don't get this money the entertainment will stop. Did the developers say that? They didn't get the money for Lake Sumter or Spanish Springs last year and the entertainment continued.

There was entertainment at the squares before the EVER got this money.

Do you not believe the developers will pay for the entertainment? Have they said they will cut out entertainment if they don't get the money?

This isn't like the old commissioners. When EMS gets in, they will all vote. They won't all agree like the present commissioners do. At least three of them will have to agree to make it go.

So... you decide because Oren said he thinks the schools in the south can use this money more than the developers can (yes he did say that) that people should not vote for him and give up all the things EMS wants to do for the community.

The rumor... No entertainment at the squares. Unless the people saying that can show me that the developers won't fund it like they always have, I don't buy into it and neither should you.

It's an election ploy! Nothing more.

angiefox10 08-15-2020 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1818112)
You say it's a rumor. Did Oren say he would not vote to fund Square Entertainment?

You say The Developer will step in and fund square entertainment. Have you talked to The Developer? Have they given you assurances that they will step up to fund it?

You're assuming. That's a dangerous thing to do.

The developer advertises entertainment i the squares 365 days a year. NOT the county. Why would the developer not pay for it?

They were given a grant for a couple of years for Brownwood and now for Lake Sumter and suddenly they will hold us hostage? I don't believe it do you?

Do you feel the developers not paying for the entertainment is more important than the schools? If so, maybe that needs to be brought to the table and discussed. That's what the new commissioners will be all about... discussion. Maybe one or all are not thinking this through completely.. .So, you get to talk to them and explain why you feel the way you do and then the commissioners can take that into consideration.

That's an opportunity you will have that we don't have now. We can't talk to our commissioners and we can't discuss. And if they decide something... the vote is ALWAYS 5 to 0.

angiefox10 08-15-2020 06:51 PM

This is what we have now. This is three different meetings, three different issues.

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CanTho 08-15-2020 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1817914)
Vaccine out pretty soon? Don't hold your breath. That is NOT what the medical experts are saying. You could go to Russia about the end of the year and they MIGHT have their UNPROVEN one available to tourists at a HUGE cost. Do that IF you dare! Even when the US vaccine is PROVEN effective - there will be a long, long time delay before it is available to ordinary peons like you and me. 1st the NBA, NFL, and MLB players get theirs and owners and staff and etc. Then University Presidents and staff - then hospital Soctors and staff. Then MAYBE me and you. AND the ANTI-VACCERS (up to 50% of the US population) will NOT get the vaccine - so, we are right back to where we were. Wearing masks or NOT wearing masks - pretending everything is normal or being cautious and caring about other people. The 1918 pandemic took 4 years to resolve and this one could affect people's hearts for their lifetimes, children also. So, dancing to live music at the square may be something that was only done in your past, pre-CV lifetimes.

For me I am optimistic and believe that a vaccine will be available by December, 2020 at the latest.

Hey better to optimistic then Doom and Gloom.

PS: 1918 vs 2020 Need I say more.:)

angiefox10 08-15-2020 06:58 PM

I can tell by the responses that many of you have never been to a BOCC meeting.


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angiefox10 08-15-2020 07:12 PM

This is the first time I was able to talk to a county commissioner at a question and answer.

This is what we have now.... This is why so many have said "vote them out" We just wanted them to put it on the ballot. Ask the people.

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Buffalo Jim 08-15-2020 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 1818136)
This is the first time I was able to talk to a county commissioner at a question and answer.

This is what we have now.... This is why so many have said "vote them out" We just wanted them to put it on the ballot. Ask the people.

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Ms. Fox : Sure sounds as if you are running for office ! What will your role be when your EMS Team is at the helm ? Agenda ? Brand New Animal Shelter first and foremost ?

And since you seem to speaking for at least Mr. MIller , how about explaining how his campaign seeking changes to the County Charter will be beneficial to Villagers living in Sumter County ? You know the change which would deny us the right to vote for all 5 Commissioners and instead only one . How is that beneficial to us ?

angiefox10 08-16-2020 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1818190)
Ms. Fox : Sure sounds as if you are running for office ! What will your role be when your EMS Team is at the helm ? Agenda ? Brand New Animal Shelter first and foremost ?

And since you seem to speaking for at least Mr. MIller , how about explaining how his campaign seeking changes to the County Charter will be beneficial to Villagers living in Sumter County ? You know the change which would deny us the right to vote for all 5 Commissioners and instead only one . How is that beneficial to us ?


Oren isn't in this forum

I am speaking as a resident who has been to all the BOCC meetings until COVID for the past four years.

As to the shelter. We are the only County Shelter in Florida that doesn't allow volunteers. Why? If we had volunteers it would save the county a ton of money. People have offered to help in the meetings. We could save more animals and get them back home with volunteers. But then if we had volunteers we would have known about the dog that was recently left in the truck to die with the heat on. We asked for those records from the county three times before we got them all. The first time they said there were NO records. We let them know we KNEW and they started feeding us the records a little at a time. Oh... and a supervisor had to resign or be fired because she refused to sweep it under the rug. Yes! I have the documents to prove all of this.

Or the little dog that fell out of the truck and they denied picking up the dog until it came out there was a camera outside the house that recorded the whole event. They got lucky and the dog was found later.

Or the five dogs that were killed with their surgical collars on one even had an adopter on the way to pick her up. the person who had to kill them had just been promoted and quit because it affected her so much. (Yes, I have the text from her )

We need Shelter Reform at our county shelter. It would save us money and save our pets.

As to reversing One Sumter. Yes, One Sumter needs to go away. We need commissioners who work for us. I wouldn't want residents in Georgia voting for my Governor. If you have ever been to a meeting, you will know the Commissioners don't work for us. Yes, they work for the developers. Understand the villages are represented by the developers, Wildwood is represented by their government, Busnell is represented by their government. The Commissioners should be representing ALL the residents NOT special interest groups.

The Villages has been warned about all the building. About the lack of water for all of us and about the sinkholes. (Oh, and speaking of sinkholes, the employees of The Villages can't call them sinkholes, they have to call them "ground depressions" or "water main breaks"), Maybe there needs to be some checks and balances in our system before any more people lose their homes. I have friends dealing with the "ground depressions" now.. how many more?

As for my roll... I am a resident. And to your point. Who are you? Everyone knows who I am, but most of the people in here have fake names. What is your roll in this? I have to wonder about the lies I'm reading in here. Who are the people spreading them? What do they get out of this? Others need to ask the same. You know who I am. .. who are you?

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angiefox10 08-16-2020 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1818190)
Ms. Fox : Sure sounds as if you are running for office ! What will your role be when your EMS Team is at the helm ? Agenda ? Brand New Animal Shelter first and foremost ?

And since you seem to speaking for at least Mr. MIller , how about explaining how his campaign seeking changes to the County Charter will be beneficial to Villagers living in Sumter County ? You know the change which would deny us the right to vote for all 5 Commissioners and instead only one . How is that beneficial to us ?

Oh... The plan is NOT to make changes... The plan is to find out what the residents want first. One Sumter needs to be put on the ballot. No one should make that decision without a vote. Don't you agree?

kaniess 08-16-2020 07:32 AM

Since the challengers are running as a slate, I reasonably assume that they will vote as a block on the commission and their vote will not be in the interest of the Villagers' benefits. A priority will be a certain "pet project".


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