Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2257476)

That would appear to be an over-statement of gargantuan proportions.


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...9-post414.html

Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2257440)

The renters are involved in a business transaction. The owner of the rental is conducting a business. If money is exchanged for goods or services it is a business.

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2257477)

The deed restriction DOESN’T define Business - in a legal document, a term is defined if it’s capitalized.

If I am running an online t-shirt print business, at home (i have t-shirts in my garage, I print them, and ship them) - I have inventory and work from my home.

Is the STR landlord actually operating the rental business from their primary home (i.e. where the records are kept, where the lease is signed and money exchanges hands)?
What’s happening in the STR in The Villages is…


Need a court precedent to define Business in The Villages.

Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2257480)

How would you know? You stated earlier you live on a lake where there are red lights causing boats to lose vision. Doesn't sound like a place in the Villages! Even if you are a part-time resident, again, how would you know? You are not here to witness. Are you going by the STRS listed on the online sites? Many are not listed there.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2257481)

The issue is not whether renting a home is a business activity, most deed restrictions don't mention rentals. The issue is whether there is business being conducted at the home ant there is not. Eating, sleeping, cooking, and cleaning are not business activities. There is no business being conducted in the home by residing there and therefore there is no violation of the restrictions.




Perhaps we will see stricter laws but if we do they will likely be based on zoning.



Again, eating, sleeping, cooking, and cleaning are not business activities and do not constitute business being conducted on a residence.

Absolutely deed restrictions can change, laws can change also (this was made clear in another thread by someone very proud of their Masters degree in Political Science). Does this make it silly to go to court to enforce a speed limit law because it can be changed?

As far as I know, deed restrictions are legally binding and enforceable. The CDDs have no problem fining people for violations of external deed restrictions and there is an ongoing court case involving lawn ornaments. The deed restriction against business being conducted on a residence should be equally enforceable. Put your money where your mouth is - if you are that confident in your legal assessment of this situation then do your duty as an owner and initiate proceedings to bring that STR (and other rentals) into compliance.



Reading comprehension again. I don't recall anyone saying laws cannot be enacted. I and others have pointed out that Florida State law prevents local governments from creating any new laws that limit the duration of rentals. Several have also said that there appears to be no interest by the developer or county government to address rental activity at this time. That interest might change and the Florida law might change in the future, but not today.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2257485)

????

He would know how many airbnbs are available in the Villages by searching the airbnb site for listings in the Villages.....JUST AS HE SHOWED IN THE LINKED POST!

Are you really asserting that many rentals in the Villages are not listed on rental sites? Do you believe 20 year olds are going door to door to find STRs that don't advertise on rental sites?

Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2257486)

I am not stupid enough to spend my hard earned money fighting deed restrictions. That is a fool's game! Why don't you finally pick a side? It is so easy to argue when one flip flops,

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2257481)

Absolutely deed restrictions can change, laws can change also (this was made clear in another thread by someone very proud of their Masters degree in Political Science). Does this make it silly to go to court to enforce a speed limit law because it can be changed?

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2257484)

Any time money is exchanged for goods or SERVICES, it is a business.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2257489)

Every time I ever bought Cracker Jack's as a kid, I only got a silly little rubber horse or elephant. They put Master's Degrees in some of the boxes?

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2257492)

And the business is being operated out of the landlord’s primary home, not the STR.

Is a business operating out of a rental car or the Avis office at the airport?

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2257477)

The deed restriction DOESN’T define Business - in a legal document, a term is defined if it’s capitalized.

If I am running an online t-shirt print business, at home (i have t-shirts in my garage, I print them, and ship them) - I have inventory and work from my home.

Is the STR landlord actually operating the rental business from their primary home (i.e. where the records are kept, where the lease is signed and money exchanges hands)?
What’s happening in the STR in The Villages is…


Need a court precedent to define Business in The Villages.

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2257492)

And the business is being operated out of the landlord’s primary home, not the STR.

Is a business operating out of a rental car or the Avis office at the airport?

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2257533)

That is a great analogy.

Similar (not as good perhaps) is selling a home. Who's conducting the business and from where?

Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2257542)

If the silly thing you are arguing is true, then THINK! The laws would stop or restrict the business owners NO MATTER WHERE THEIR HOME OFFICE OR PLACE OF CONDUCTING THE BUSINESS IS LOCATED! How would one continue to run an STR or AIRBNB without adhering to the laws? They would be fined or shut down even if the owner was in Timbuktu.