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Gettingoutofdodge 09-14-2023 07:26 AM

Courtyard Villa
 
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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2256329)
We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

To my knowledge, there are no places in The Villages that short term rentals are not allowed or monitored.
I bought a resale a year ago in a Courtyard Villa in Charlotte. Probably 1/2 of it are snowbirds, renters/long and short term. Both my neighbors are snowbirds. Those homes are usually not as well cared for as those who live here full time. It definitely changes the feel of the neighborhood.
I am fortunate because I made friends in TV from other areas. It is very quiet and desolate here in the summer months. You can count the garbage outside homes to get a feel for how empty it is.
It is also harder when you are single to make friends in an established, older neighborhood. Most of the owners are married and already have established relationships and friends.
I read that a lot of the homes in the new Villages are being purchased in bulk by speculators for rentals.
I never considered this when I bought. The Villages is a beautiful place to live, especially in the winter. That’s why it’s so popular with snowbirds and lucrative with speculators.
All the best to you in your new home.

JGibson 09-14-2023 07:42 AM

I think supply of STR is outpacing demand as I see a lot of "for rent" signs throughout my village.
Although STR is not limited to villas as 2 or 3 couples do like renting designer homes as it's more cost effective and many come with pools.

BrianL99 09-14-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2256584)
Florida state law prohibits local governments from banning short-term rentals altogether and from limiting the length or frequency of stays. These Florida laws make the Sunshine State one of the preferred markets for investors interested in vacation rental investing.

County and city governments can pass their own rules in order to control the negative impact of vacation rentals on local communities.

Florida Short Term Rental Laws: AirBnB & Vacation Rental Regulations

Deed Restrictions and the Florida law against communities banning short term rentals, are unrelated.

nn0wheremann 09-14-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2256329)
We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

You pays yer money and you takes yer chances. No restrictions on short term rentals.

However, name and address of the owner of the STR house is available through public records. You could address your concerns directly, or if necessary through a lawsuit.

There is an STR a short distance from our home, and it has been no problem so far. It is a vast improvement over the previous situation when that house was fouled up in a reverse mortgage situation gone awry.

kimgarwel12@gmail.com 09-14-2023 07:49 AM

Build in the Enclave area of Dabney. Bet there won't be any rentals there!

Hillery12 09-14-2023 07:50 AM

Non rental zone
 
Unit 12 in Fenney is a no rental area. We are all designer homes with many veranda homes in the mix. It was in our contract when we bought our home that we could not rent. This is a great neighborhood.

Vermilion Villager 09-14-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2256329)
We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

I'm sure by now you've heard the answer is "NO". My suggestion is to buy a more expensive model in a neighborhood of expensive homes. Most of the rentals are from patio villa homes. We have a Courtyard Villa block home in Marsh Bend and there is only one rental out of 46 homes. One post suggested established neighborhoods. I say just the opposite. Most of the homes up north are smaller and older, hence a better mark for investments.

Lisanp@aol.com 09-14-2023 08:30 AM

My town up north just banned all rentals of under 28 days so it’s possible…

Dlbonivich 09-14-2023 08:31 AM

As an owner in a deed restricted area you are entitled as owners to change deed restrictions. In the situation in the Villages I imagine your District supervisors that you vote for can do this. It will cost money probably an attorney, it can be done.

jparsoneau@aol.com 09-14-2023 08:32 AM

Yes, if you’re concerned about this, you probably should not move to The Villages. And as others have said, if you want to get away from rentals, going to the older neighborhoods versus the newer neighborhoods. But you won’t escape all the rentals. I would assume where you’re living now you probably have Rentals as well.
So just be careful where you step

Cybersprings 09-14-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hillery12 (Post 2256616)
Unit 12 in Fenney is a no rental area. We are all designer homes with many veranda homes in the mix. It was in our contract when we bought our home that we could not rent. This is a great neighborhood.

I am definitely NOT DISPUTING what you say. But so many have posted that there is no area in the villages where even STRs are prohibited. Is your area the hidden gem of The Villages?

roypw 09-14-2023 08:41 AM

It’s a shame there is such bias against renters. Like posted above, many if not most home owners rented before buying. We have rented maybe a dozen times a month or 2 at a time and I must admit we were really disappointed that residents were not more friendly. We absolutely loveThe Villages but at the time couldn’t buy for family reasons but the fact that the residents seemed so UNFRIENDLY made us delay our decision even more.. We were great renters and stayed in some beautiful homes. We tried to establish neighborhood friendships with no luck at all, very unfriendly place. It wasn’t until recently we realized there was this renter bias. Not fully understanding it sure gave us a bad impression. Think about it the next time you aren’t friendly and welcome a renter. Like us they may feel they are residents just waiting for the right time to buy. We probably would have a house in The Villages if residents would have been more friendly.

DrMack 09-14-2023 08:49 AM

Unit 12
 
Is this all of Fenney? We would be very interested. We have to close soon so please advise.

Nancy@Pinellas 09-14-2023 08:49 AM

We have a rental on our street and have had no problems whatsoever. We have had some very nice guests staying here.

Bill14564 09-14-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2256654)
I am definitely NOT DISPUTING what you say. But so many have posted that there is no area in the villages where even STRs are prohibited. Is your area the hidden gem of The Villages?

There are a lot of deed restrictions in the Villages. "Many" don't even read their own, much less those of other areas. Even worse, deed restrictions can be modified like those for area 12 and 20 were so what is restricted today may not be tomorrow and vice versa.

Cybersprings 09-14-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by roypw (Post 2256657)
It’s a shame there is such bias against renters. Like posted above, many if not most home owners rented before buying. We have rented maybe a dozen times a month or 2 at a time and I must admit we were really disappointed that residents were not more friendly. We absolutely loveThe Villages but at the time couldn’t buy for family reasons but the fact that the residents seemed so UNFRIENDLY made us delay our decision even more.. We were great renters and stayed in some beautiful homes. We tried to establish neighborhood friendships with no luck at all, very unfriendly place. It wasn’t until recently we realized there was this renter bias. Not fully understanding it sure gave us a bad impression. Think about it the next time you aren’t friendly and welcome a renter. Like us they may feel they are residents just waiting for the right time to buy. We probably would have a house in The Villages if residents would have been more friendly.

I agree with you 100%, but they don't like the snowbird owners either, so don't take it too personally. I am going to make a prediction, at least one person is going to respond with "we are only talking about short term renters" because they do not like it when their bias is pointed out, and as if all the bias you have seen/felt does not occur all the time . Yes, this thread may be about short term rentals (but not those by the developer), but the bias in all of the other threads and in the neighborhoods is real.

Indydealmaker 09-14-2023 09:04 AM

I believe you will find that there are no deed restrictions regarding this matter.

LonnyP 09-14-2023 09:11 AM

Nimby nimby nimby

oldtimes 09-14-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hillery12 (Post 2256616)
Unit 12 in Fenney is a no rental area. We are all designer homes with many veranda homes in the mix. It was in our contract when we bought our home that we could not rent. This is a great neighborhood.

Good luck getting that enforced

Bill14564 09-14-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2256669)
I agree with you 100%, but they don't like the snowbird owners either, so don't take it too personally. I am going to make a prediction, at least one person is going to respond with "we are only talking about short term renters" because they do not like it when their bias is pointed out, and as if all the bias you have seen/felt does not occur all the time . Yes, this thread may be about short term rentals (but not those by the developer), but the bias in all of the other threads and in the neighborhoods is real.

Is it that "they" don't like renters and snowbirds or is it that "they" are less interested in investing in a relationship that is going to end in a week or a month?

While the renter is looking for friendship or things to do for his month or week here, I have things that keep me busy all year round. Sure, I could drop what I am doing to make a new friend and cultivate a new relationship but why would I do that knowing full well it is going to end? I certainly can and will be friendly towards a stranger in the area but I'm not likely to develop a friendship with someone who is only here for a minute.

Snowbirds and longer-term renters are a different story. They will be here for a while and, in the case of snowbirds and some renters, they will be coming back. I generally look forward to seeing someone I recognize and someone who has been here a while.

I don't feel that I am biased against renters, I just recognize that they are people who are not going to be in my life long term. Being friendly is quick and easy. Devoting time and developing a friendship takes longer and is (at least in my case) reserved for those who may be around for a while.

Bill14564 09-14-2023 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 2256676)
I believe you will find that there are no deed restrictions regarding this matter.

See posts 46 and 56.

oldtimes 09-14-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2256692)
Is it that "they" don't like renters and snowbirds or is it that "they" are less interested in investing in a relationship that is going to end in a week or a month?

We are not talking about a week or a month, we are talking about DAILY renters like Motel6

Cybersprings 09-14-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2256699)
We are not talking about a week or a month, we are talking about DAILY renters like Motel6

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner. See post #57

Cybersprings 09-14-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2256692)
Is it that "they" don't like renters and snowbirds or is it that "they" are less interested in investing in a relationship that is going to end in a week or a month?

While the renter is looking for friendship or things to do for his month or week here, I have things that keep me busy all year round. Sure, I could drop what I am doing to make a new friend and cultivate a new relationship but why would I do that knowing full well it is going to end? I certainly can and will be friendly towards a stranger in the area but I'm not likely to develop a friendship with someone who is only here for a minute.

Snowbirds and longer-term renters are a different story. They will be here for a while and, in the case of snowbirds and some renters, they will be coming back. I generally look forward to seeing someone I recognize and someone who has been here a while.

I don't feel that I am biased against renters, I just recognize that they are people who are not going to be in my life long term. Being friendly is quick and easy. Devoting time and developing a friendship takes longer and is (at least in my case) reserved for those who may be around for a while.

I completely understand and empathize with your perspective.
But, to answer your question in the beginning, I'm not sure. What do you think from the thread a few months back with all the posts about good riddance to the snowbirds, wish they would leave sooner?

Bill14564 09-14-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2256708)
I completely understand and empathize with your perspective.
But, to answer your question in the beginning, I'm not sure. What do you think from the thread a few months back with all the posts about good riddance to the snowbirds, wish they would leave sooner?

I think that attitude reflects poorly on the Villages and I hope I don't meet anyone that truly feels that way.

I do look forward to the absence of crowds in the restaurants and squares but I actually think the snowbirds leaving makes things worse. I almost wish the snowbirds would stay for three reasons: 1. some of them are friends and I miss them; 2. with a more stable number of customers, restaurants could ramp up to meet the needs; and 3. if the snowbirds were permanent then the "newness" of being back would wear off and there wouldn't be the rush to get back to the squares and restaurants.

Joe C. 09-14-2023 10:24 AM

Been here 7 years. Never rented before buying. Haven't had any problems with renters in our neighborhood. Most renters are older retired or retiring people who want to buy. I don't think that there is too much cause to worry.

Karmanng 09-14-2023 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2256329)
We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

GOOD LUCK with that! They are all over........

vintageogauge 09-14-2023 10:43 AM

there are sections south of 44 that do not allow rentals at all. Also, most of the short term rentals are villas or cottages, etc., if you are in a higher end section there won't be much of that around you, monthly or long term but not daily or weekly. We have no rentals on our street but there is one around the corner, they rent monthly and we don't even know anyone is in there, most tenants are not down here to party and make a bunch of noise, they are here to enjoy the winter weather and see what there is to see.

Tennisfan1 09-14-2023 10:56 AM

There are several neighborhoods in Marsh Bend that do not allow rentals. My sister lives on Dunham Dr and they cannot have rentals.

Philipd411 09-14-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2256329)
We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

You and your neighbors needs to band together and buy properties that are being rented out as VRBOs or Airbnb. The fact is, these are all over the place in the villages. I have at least three near me. But not are they only in the villages they are every where even from where you moved from.

Cybersprings 09-14-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2256712)
I think that attitude reflects poorly on the Villages and I hope I don't meet anyone that truly feels that way.

I do look forward to the absence of crowds in the restaurants and squares but I actually think the snowbirds leaving makes things worse. I almost wish the snowbirds would stay for three reasons: 1. some of them are friends and I miss them; 2. with a more stable number of customers, restaurants could ramp up to meet the needs; and 3. if the snowbirds were permanent then the "newness" of being back would wear off and there wouldn't be the rush to get back to the squares and restaurants.

In my opinion all very valid points and wishing there were fewer snowbirds and more permanent residents for the reasonable reasons you stated does express a little bit of a negative bias (or maybe better termed - pference) against snowbirds, but not in an unfriendly way. I don't think any snowbird should take offense to that. And I hope more people begin to express their feelings in that type of way.

Randall55 09-14-2023 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2256329)
We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.

There is no guarantee rentals will not be in your area. But, if you purchased a designer home, chances are you will have more permanent residents. Good Luck! Wishing you the best!

Randall55 09-14-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2256699)
We are not talking about a week or a month, we are talking about DAILY renters like Motel6

Silly me! I thought the OP wanted suggestions on areas that do not have VRBOS or STRS. Is there an area you recommend to answer the concern?

ThirdOfFive 09-14-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by roypw (Post 2256657)
It’s a shame there is such bias against renters. Like posted above, many if not most home owners rented before buying. We have rented maybe a dozen times a month or 2 at a time and I must admit we were really disappointed that residents were not more friendly. We absolutely loveThe Villages but at the time couldn’t buy for family reasons but the fact that the residents seemed so UNFRIENDLY made us delay our decision even more.. We were great renters and stayed in some beautiful homes. We tried to establish neighborhood friendships with no luck at all, very unfriendly place. It wasn’t until recently we realized there was this renter bias. Not fully understanding it sure gave us a bad impression. Think about it the next time you aren’t friendly and welcome a renter. Like us they may feel they are residents just waiting for the right time to buy. We probably would have a house in The Villages if residents would have been more friendly.

If you look for something hard enough, odds are you'll find it.

We rented several times here before buying, and our experiences couldn't have been better. No problems with resident owners. Quite the opposite in fact: some went out of their way to make us feel welcome. Our experiences with locals were in fact one of the primary reasons for us moving here. In all honesty, we made it a point to BE friendly ourselves, and found it more than reciprocated.

Marathon Man 09-14-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2256721)
Been here 7 years. Never rented before buying. Haven't had any problems with renters in our neighborhood. Most renters are older retired or retiring people who want to buy. I don't think that there is too much cause to worry.

Well said. I agree. Our community is getting large. And any number of problems concerning anything will seem like a real issue, but the number is small in percentage.

oldtimes 09-14-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2256756)
Well said. I agree. Our community is getting large. And any number of problems concerning anything will seem like a real issue, but the number is small in percentage.

Yes I understand, if it hasn't happened to you it is not a problem but future buyers have a right to know that the problem exists and they could be impacted. This is not necessarily the "over 55 retirement community" that they are led to believe.

Cybersprings 09-14-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2256765)
Yes I understand, if it hasn't happened to you it is not a problem but future buyers have a right to know that the problem exists and they could be impacted. This is not necessarily the "over 55 retirement community" that they are led to believe.

Why do people keep doing this??? The post to which you replied stated that the percentage is small. They did not state or imply that because it didn't happen to them, it was not a problem. The implication of the post to which I am responding is the the person is self-absorbed or uncaring.

It would have been so easy to say, "while the percentage is small, future buyers have a right to know that the problem exists and they could be impacted." Or, if one disagrees that it is a small percentage, they can state that, and possibly even provide support why. Why is it necessary to make those other implications??? But then again, if the high road was taken, I would having nothing else to do other than nap or play golf.

Randall55 09-14-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2256777)
Why do people keep doing this??? The post to which you replied stated that the percentage is small. They did not state or imply that because it didn't happen to them, it was not a problem. The implication of the post to which I am responding is the the person is self-absorbed or uncaring.

It would have been so easy to say, "while the percentage is small, future buyers have a right to know that the problem exists and they could be impacted." Or, if one disagrees that it is a small percentage, they can state that, and possibly even provide support why. Why is it necessary to make those other implications??? But then again, if the high road was taken, I would having nothing else to do other than nap or play golf.

I find it remarkable that people would rather break down another's post and feel the need to correct the wording. Why not just answer the OP question. Do you know of areas in the Villages where there are no VRBOS and STRS?

Bill14564 09-14-2023 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2256779)
I find it remarkable that people would rather break down another's post and feel the need to correct the wording. Why not just answer the OP question. Do you know of areas in the Villages where there are no VRBOS and STRS?

I believe several posts have stated there is no guarantee.

HoosierPa 09-14-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2256329)
We are purchasing in Dabney and are very excited! There is a major concern though. I have read some threads here and we know we don’t want VRBOs or short term rentals near us. Are there any places that guarantee this in the villages? We would like to take care of our new home and don’t necessarily want to to step into that kind of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.


I know there is a unit in Fenney that did not allow any rentals, but you would have to research through The Villages


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