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jimmy D 10-08-2021 06:22 AM

Forget it. It will always be on your mind

midiwiz 10-08-2021 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014368)
Dear Villagers, we are evaluating the homesites at the intersection between Meggison Rd and Warm Springs Ave. The homesites are away from turnpike about 1/4 mile. There might be 3-4 houses between the homesites and Meggison and Warm Springs. In terms of our experience in Pittsburgh, the road noise is very loud in the same distance in the open space. Our another concern is this homesite also fits into the highway 0.3-mile high pollution band. Our agent said the road noise cannot be heard with surrounding wall. Would you please advice if you have some suggestions on these issues? TIA

we looked over there, having been in Florida for close to 20 years here's what I can tell you about the location.

Yes you can hear the hum of the turnpike, sometimes louder sometimes softer. What you are missing is all the rest, the most important is that when an accident happens on that turnpike it's a parking lot. While those accidents aren't every day like I-4 they aren't so few either. So the day when a tanker flips over anyone in that area is not going to be all that happy.

Just a bit of input.

JMintzer 10-08-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2014545)
We are in Citrus Grove and cannot hear the Turnpike. Maybe I need hearing aids. We are ~0.45 miles from Turnpike.

You are about as far from the turnpike as possible, on the East side...

Jewelz 10-08-2021 06:37 AM

Another great source for information is Goldwingnut. He puts out youtube videos on Villages construction updates.
He also can help with updates when building a house....maybe he can help
you.

Gold Wingnut - YouTube

jimkerr 10-08-2021 06:54 AM

I would advise against it. You will hear the noise and you won’t be happy. At night and in the mornings it’s pretty loud.

The Berms aren’t helpful at all. It’s still loud.

Keep looking! That’s what we did.

merrymini 10-08-2021 07:05 AM

No one is paying for walls when you build near an existing highway. They usually install walls when a highway is being built near existing homes. I lived on the side of a hilltop, a very long distance from a highway, and the sound is very obvious day and night when outside the house. No wall is enough for me.

retiredguy123 10-08-2021 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2014582)
electric cars and electric trucks are the answer! The Turnpike is going to have more traffic and exhaust pollution... Better Explore your options! one jake brake for me would do it..,

Just to clarify, almost all traffic noise is caused by the tire contact with the road at high speeds. Electric vehicles will not solve the problem.

PugMom 10-08-2021 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2014428)
We have lived in Fenney for well over 4 years and there is no traffic noise on our street that would come from any of the roads you mentioned, and I 75 doesn't come into play in any of the southern villages, the only noise would be from local traffic that everyone has. There are homes that are near to Warm Springs and I would assume they hear the traffic but the homes in the central section of Fenney are very quiet. Now they are selling in Hammock of Fenney and the homes that are on the east side along the golf courses will be quiet, the west section will be nearer to 301 and will have some traffic noise during the day. Another note regarding 301, 44, and warm springs, traffic is very light after 6:00 PM

i agree. we are in mc-clure, & the only noise i hear is in the evening, & usually when i have the windows open. other than that, i don't really hear that much activity @ all. i did grow up in a city, where noise is a constant, so i may have become immune to it, lol. but yes, if you aren't sure, PLEASE look & you will find the right home for you. sending an early welcome! :icon_wink:

sallyg 10-08-2021 07:21 AM

We live in Marsh Bend fairly close to the turnpike. We do not hear anything inside or on our lanai. The only time I notice traffic noise is late at night when I take the dog outside. I dislike traffic noise a lot, so I sympathize. Our location is fine. Lots of houses to choose from. You will find the right one. Best of luck.

Black Beauty 10-08-2021 07:28 AM

We live in Mulberry North very mature and quiet. The Frogs call this part of The Villages the 'country' being soooo quiet!

DaleDivine 10-08-2021 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014527)
Thanks a lot for your suggestions! I see almost all new homesites close to the turnpike and major roads. We have been to the villages a couple of times. Maybe it’s not a good time to buy a new house here at the moment.

Rent first if you can. Here's an idea, watch some of Gold Wingnut's videos on the construction going on. As with most new home constructions, there will be a LOT of DUST. Good Luck.
:ho: :welcome:

virtue51 10-08-2021 07:36 AM

I would keep looking -- 1/4 mile is not far from the turnpike. You need to consider the noise and the quality of the air. I stayed in a hotel off of I-95 (NJ Turnpike) for several weeks -- my car was in an open air garage -- my car was covered in a layer of dirt.

In addition, the area south of 44 is being developed with more home and businesses so there will be more traffic and noise.

One of the most important considerations in real estate is Location, Location, Location.

Take your time to find the home that meets your needs.

BigSteph 10-08-2021 07:49 AM

We live in Hawkins, which is off Meggison. We live deep in Hawkins, closer to Warm Springs (2500ish feet from the Turnpike, 4500' from the Service Plaza, and 1000' from Warm Springs. We can hear the Turnpike. We can hear Warm Springs, sometimes.

The Turnpike noise can be very loud at times, and almost not noticeable at others. It depends on the time of day, the wind direction, the clouds, and probably several other natural factors I am not considering.

Some people are from parts of the country where they are conditioned to the noises -- if you live in a large city or other urban area, you may not notice. We came from a suburban area where there were only 20 homes on a 4 mile road. We had the smallest lot, at 2 acres. We are probably more sensitive to the noise than others.

The Developer is building several hundred more homes in Hawkins between our house and the turnpike. We are hoping that their roof-lines deflect some of the noise.

We ride bikes a lot and can say that if you are within a 1/4 mile of the turnpike along Meggison, you'll hear the turnpike. We've crossed the Water Lily bridge and you can hear the Turnpike along the Multi-Modal path the whole way -- and, in places along that path, it is deafening.

Parts of St. John will be very close. Casson Hammock is adjacent. The West part of Citrus Grove is adjacent.

If you are sensitive to noise, these Turnpike-adjacent neighborhoods will be a problem for you.

Another thing unrelated to consider is that there is little commerce South of 44 right now.

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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014368)
Dear Villagers, we are evaluating the homesites at the intersection between Meggison Rd and Warm Springs Ave. The homesites are away from turnpike about 1/4 mile. There might be 3-4 houses between the homesites and Meggison and Warm Springs. In terms of our experience in Pittsburgh, the road noise is very loud in the same distance in the open space. Our another concern is this homesite also fits into the highway 0.3-mile high pollution band. Our agent said the road noise cannot be heard with surrounding wall. Would you please advice if you have some suggestions on these issues? TIA


Dilligas 10-08-2021 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014439)
Thank all of you again! Getting further away from turnpike may be more important, not just for road noise, which may be insulated somehow. A research report shows the air pollution near highway could be a 0.3-mile band along the road with 50% reduction beyond band. We try to get more healthy life when we move to the villages.:)

Noise could be a problem depending how close and house direction. Florida is not Pittsburgh, meaning we have breezes off the ocean and gulf virtually every day after 10am, so highway pollution will be broken up. When considering noise, emergency vehicles are an additional consideration since we do have a high amount.

Ptmckiou 10-08-2021 08:00 AM

Noise
 
Those home prices will be adjusted to the proximity to the turnpike. So, it depends on your budget more than anything. We live in Hawkins. We cannot hear the turnpike. However, we do hear cars on Morse and Warm Springs.

pgettinger01 10-08-2021 08:03 AM

Make sure you listen on different days, and times because the time of day, and wind direction, and speed make a difference.

jrref 10-08-2021 08:07 AM

We ride our bikes through that area and there is no question, you Will hear the turnpike when you go outside. In my opinion after living in NY about 1/4 mike from 287 with walls, etc, the Villages is building to near major roads, the turnpike and power lines in the newer sections. There are going to be a lot of surprised new villagers when they take possession of their homes.

Liz15057 10-08-2021 08:47 AM

Thank you so much for all your valuable input! We will keep looking and may adjust our expectations. Really appreciate!

jmcica@aol.com 10-08-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewelz (Post 2014613)
Another great source for information is Goldwingnut. He puts out youtube videos on Villages construction updates.
He also can help with updates when building a house....maybe he can help
you.

Gold Wingnut - YouTube

Was just thinking of him as well. He is a wealth of knowledge

Catfishjeff 10-08-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2014407)
There is a guy who bought a house next to the turnpike in Monarch Grove. For whatever reason he thought the noise level was okay when he bought. A year goes by and he starts complaining to anyone who would listen that the developer should have a built something to mitigate all the noise from the turnpike. If you have doubts don't do it.

That same guy paid about $ 40k less for his house because it was near the turnpike. So there’s no excuse for him not to expect to hear it.

mulligan 10-08-2021 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2014465)
OP, My advise is to not purchase a lot without personally visiting the property and due diligence regarding its location. That would apply to any lot in any community and not just The Villages FL.

Agree completely !! And don't forget Florida is a sinkhole farm.

Number 10 GI 10-08-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2014582)
electric cars and electric trucks are the answer! The Turnpike is going to have more traffic and exhaust pollution... Better Explore your options! one jake brake for me would do it..,

Most of the noise from highways is from tires.

golfing eagles 10-08-2021 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 2014740)
Agree completely !! And don't forget Florida is a sinkhole farm.

Yep, better hide under your bed from all those sinkholes!!!

But for a dose of reality------

"“Your home is much more likely to get struck by lightning than swallowed by a sinkhole,” says Nick Gromicko, founder of the International Association of Certified Home Inspectors. Sinkholes engulf only a few homes a year, out of over 75 million housing units in the U.S. “That means the odds of your home being swallowed by a sinkhole are almost zero,” says Gromicko."

Lisanp@aol.com 10-08-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014439)
Thank all of you again! Getting further away from turnpike may be more important, not just for road noise, which may be insulated somehow. A research report shows the air pollution near highway could be a 0.3-mile band along the road with 50% reduction beyond band. We try to get more healthy life when we move to the villages.:)

Then you had better stay far far away from any MMPs too. The fumes from golf carts are way worse then anything you are going to get from the turnpike.

milling73 10-08-2021 11:01 AM

Unless u only interested in new area and new homesite, expand your search. We rode our bikes on the Hogeye trail and I was amazed at the volume of road noise from the turnpike. Noise that will be 24/7. We take frequent cart rides to new area and note this - (in some price ranges, streets and IMO !) —home lots smaller, home designs n colors pretty much the same.
We live near Spanish Springs/Sumter Landing - Yes the homes are older, but many of our lots are larger. location is awesome for quick commute to restaurants, squares, rec centers, shopping. mature trees, and probably no bond

1shane 10-08-2021 11:01 AM

I have been down there and checked out some of those home in that are, you should go yourself. The turnpike noise was barely detectable.. Each home site will be different.

joelfmi 10-08-2021 11:59 AM

. Being in this situation were I live now get out of the contract
 
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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014368)
Dear Villagers, we are evaluating the homesites at the intersection between Meggison Rd and Warm Springs Ave. The homesites are away from turnpike about 1/4 mile. There might be 3-4 houses between the homesites and Meggison and Warm Springs. In terms of our experience in Pittsburgh, the road noise is very loud in the same distance in the open space. Our another concern is this homesite also fits into the highway 0.3-mile high pollution band. Our agent said the road noise cannot be heard with surrounding wall. Would you please advice if you have some suggestions on these issues? TIA

Knowing what I know now, I can and will not by a home that you are describing.

DIver0258 10-08-2021 12:46 PM

Turnpike noise.
 
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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014368)
Dear Villagers, we are evaluating the homesites at the intersection between Meggison Rd and Warm Springs Ave. The homesites are away from turnpike about 1/4 mile. There might be 3-4 houses between the homesites and Meggison and Warm Springs. In terms of our experience in Pittsburgh, the road noise is very loud in the same distance in the open space. Our another concern is this homesite also fits into the highway 0.3-mile high pollution band. Our agent said the road noise cannot be heard with surrounding wall. Would you please advice if you have some suggestions on these issues? TIA

We live between the turnpike and 501. We are closer to 501 that the turnpike. I’m guessing 1/2 mile to the turnpike. We don’t here any noise in the day outside. Late at night or early morning you can hear some noise. Nothing ever in the house.

As others have suggested, ride to the area without the agent and do some checking on your own, especially at different times of day. If you can hear it now you will hear it then. As buffers are built and barrier plantings mature the sound will muffle some.

Sherry8bal 10-08-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014368)
Dear Villagers, we are evaluating the homesites at the intersection between Meggison Rd and Warm Springs Ave. The homesites are away from turnpike about 1/4 mile. There might be 3-4 houses between the homesites and Meggison and Warm Springs. In terms of our experience in Pittsburgh, the road noise is very loud in the same distance in the open space. Our another concern is this homesite also fits into the highway 0.3-mile high pollution band. Our agent said the road noise cannot be heard with surrounding wall. Would you please advice if you have some suggestions on these issues? TIA

Seems to me y'all should have been smart enough to figure that out. That's what turnpikes are for - lots of traffic!!

vintageogauge 10-08-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2014555)
and don't forget Coleman prison that is next to Fenney

I've lived in Fenney 4-1/2 years and the only problem with the prison is people that don't live here saying that it's a problem. The nice thing about it is no one will ever build anything on all those acres that will make noise or add to traffic. I've never heard a peep coming from the prison and the inmates are so non-violent there that they had to send Whitey Bolger to W. Va to enlist someone to take him out. The prison makes for a good neighbor and no one has ever escaped from it.

Liz15057 10-08-2021 01:00 PM

Thank all of you again for your info! It’s very funny that I developed a cutting-edge acoustics simulation tool in the world, but I have to deal with the airborne noise again in my coming retirement life:shocked:

Flyers999 10-08-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Beauty (Post 2014637)
We live in Mulberry North very mature and quiet. The Frogs call this part of The Villages the 'country' being soooo quiet!

Mulberry is nice and quiet, but it's on the northern border, and like almost everywhere around here it's not immune to development. They almost put high rise apartments next to the shopping center a little while ago. And nothing to say expansion won't occur on the other side of 42.

Kelevision 10-08-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2014611)
You are about as far from the turnpike as possible, on the East side...

All of citrus grove is really close to the turnpike. That’s where the new bridge is going to go, over the turnpike.

coffeebean 10-08-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2014394)
I agree with Two Bills. It sounds like you have concerns, and are looking for reassurance that it will be ok. Trust your gut. There are other new homes you can look at.

Older homes offer no noise pollution at all. I mean NONE. We are in Mallory Square and it is very quiet all the time.

Don5154 10-08-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Liz15057 (Post 2014368)
Dear Villagers, we are evaluating the homesites at the intersection between Meggison Rd and Warm Springs Ave. The homesites are away from turnpike about 1/4 mile. There might be 3-4 houses between the homesites and Meggison and Warm Springs. In terms of our experience in Pittsburgh, the road noise is very loud in the same distance in the open space. Our another concern is this homesite also fits into the highway 0.3-mile high pollution band. Our agent said the road noise cannot be heard with surrounding wall. Would you please advice if you have some suggestions on these issues? TIA

What your agent said:1rotfl::1rotfl:
I would suggest taking a trip to TV and checking it out for yourself :)

Kelevision 10-08-2021 04:45 PM

Everyone will have an opinion. When I was looking, my dad had me so worried about being too close to the Turnpike that I became obsessed about it. I read so many posts with everyone’s opinions. One person loves the sound and opens the windows at night to hear it. I personally never leave my windows open at night so I thought, i don’t care about the turnpike as long as I can’t hear it inside. Well, I can hear it outside, barely and only if the situation lends itself. For example right now I can’t hear a thing. It’s so quiet outside. I hear nothing. I stood up on a chair and can see all the autos driving. I have heard it before but in the distance at night when I was outside but only because a truck drove by or something and made me aware of it. If you plan on leaving your windows open at night, then I’d say, maybe keep looking, otherwise, if you like the lot, go for it. I love Hawkins ( I assume that’s where you’re looking) I love all of south of 44 with the nature trails and the preserves. Yes, I guess the houses might be closer together but it feel more spread out to me with all the nature preserves. And I love love love Fenney. The houses seem more colorful to me too. Not sure.

MrFlorida 10-08-2021 05:27 PM

That close you will hear road noise, your realtor is not your friend.

HORNET 10-08-2021 05:40 PM

Remember, they are sales agents,( like car salesmen ) not Realtors. They will say anything to sell you a house

Stu from NYC 10-08-2021 05:42 PM

And someday either yourself or your heirs are going to sell and deal with people noticing noise.

vintageogauge 10-08-2021 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2014965)
Remember, they are sales agents,( like car salesmen ) not Realtors. They will say anything to sell you a house

Do you really believe that "Realtors" won't say anything to sell you a house??? A salesman is a salesman, doesn't matter what hat he or she's wearing. The only difference between a MLS realtor and a Villages Sales Agent is the realtor cannot sell you a new home or a building lot.


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