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Worldseries27 10-24-2022 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stu from nyc (Post 2150110)
seems like their is not much the police can do other than ask them to tone it down.

should have called ghost bus, er i mean the biddies

RICH1 10-24-2022 06:12 AM

They don’t run into schools with active shooters , do you think they will break up a Rapper Party? Just another AirBnb get used to it! House party’s are a good source of income !

midiwiz 10-24-2022 06:14 AM

this thread is hilarious.... you guys are all too funny.... sort of makes me want to hook up my 1000W system and crank the crap out of it. ..... yet no one rags on about the bands at the squares...... it's utterly amazing .....

thanks for the laugh.

Papa_lecki 10-24-2022 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2150302)
there is no cerfew, where the heck did you interpret that from ??

Pretty sure the villages curfew is 9:15, need to give us time to get home from the squares.

Love2Swim 10-24-2022 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2150205)
This story doesn't make sense to me. If the music was from an apartment building and it was loud enough to be heard a mile away, why didn't other apartment residents complain. And, why couldn't the police make an arrest? Very confusing.

These local police seem useless. I've reported a couple other incidents to them, road rage, etc., given them license plate numbers, and they do absolutely nothing.

coffeebean 10-24-2022 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2150314)
They don’t run into schools with active shooters , do you think they will break up a Rapper Party? Just another AirBnb get used to it! House party’s are a good source of income !

I looked at the gallery on the website. The venue looks like a huge gorgeous mansion with landscaped grounds that are stunning. Take a look at the photos on the website.

Stu from NYC 10-24-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2150302)
there is no cerfew, where the heck did you interpret that from ??

The Villages joke

Stu from NYC 10-24-2022 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2150314)
They don’t run into schools with active shooters , do you think they will break up a Rapper Party? Just another AirBnb get used to it! House party’s are a good source of income !

The vast bulk of the time the police will do their jobs

dlebuis 10-24-2022 07:23 AM

We live in Mallory Square and the RAP music was so loud we had to close up our house and it was still loud. This went on until 2:30am. We enjoy leaving our windows open on cool nights. Hope this was a one time occurrence.

Paula 10-24-2022 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2149981)
I use a Sound Machine on a night stand next to the bed. Can't hear anything. Try one, you'll no longer be sleepless.

Or get a free white noise app on your phone.

coffeebean 10-24-2022 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2150319)
this thread is hilarious.... you guys are all too funny.... sort of makes me want to hook up my 1000W system and crank the crap out of it. ..... yet no one rags on about the bands at the squares...... it's utterly amazing .....

thanks for the laugh.

The music at the squares ends at 9:00 PM. This loud rap music was noise polluting until at least 1:00 in the morning that I know of. They sheriff said they usually start the loud music at midnight.

Now that you mention it......I have never heard the music from the bands at LSL and I know how loud they are. I will certainly check it out tonight on my open lanai to see if I can hear the band from LSL.

Bilyclub 10-24-2022 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2150319)
this thread is hilarious.... you guys are all too funny.... sort of makes me want to hook up my 1000W system and crank the crap out of it. ..... yet no one rags on about the bands at the squares...... it's utterly amazing .....

thanks for the laugh.


The squares shut down at exactly 9 PM which I think is too early, but supposedly this place went until 2:30 AM which is pretty late. If you lived in TV you would know that cranking your 1000 watts would be a deed violation after a certain time.


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Originally Posted by dlebuis (Post 2150367)
We live in Mallory Square and the RAP music was so loud we had to close up our house and it was still loud. This went on until 2:30am. We enjoy leaving our windows open on cool nights. Hope this was a one time occurrence.


coffeebean 10-24-2022 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dlebuis (Post 2150367)
We live in Mallory Square and the RAP music was so loud we had to close up our house and it was still loud. This went on until 2:30am. We enjoy leaving our windows open on cool nights. Hope this was a one time occurrence.

Unfortunately, this is not a one time occurrence. There has been loud rap music before and it happened either last week or the week before also.

coffeebean 10-24-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paula (Post 2150377)
Or get a free white noise app on your phone.

Will the white noise app drown out the BOOM BOOM BOOM from that heavy base? It was really annoying.

Whitley 10-24-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150011)
Crazy youth, they can stay up past 8:30.


I seem to recall a time in the long ago when I would go to the first club at midnight.

Bilyclub 10-24-2022 08:00 AM

My take from experience is that the deputies didn't have the manpower available to safely take on what was probably a pretty big, drunken crowd. They sealed the entrance to keep anymore people from getting in and once they left they could not reenter. Since the place is a business there should be some sort of business license or permit issued by Sumter County ? I wonder if it's BYOB or if they have a liquor license ?

Love2Swim 10-24-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2150354)
The vast bulk of the time the police will do their jobs

Agree, but its obvious that not all do their jobs, or do it well.

Davonu 10-24-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2150396)
Will the white noise app drown out the BOOM BOOM BOOM from that heavy base? It was really annoying.

With ear buds on, yes. Otherwise, not so much.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-24-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2150295)
Well, have to admit.......... When I was a kid, living in my parent's home, Mom used to BLAST Frank Sinatra on the old Hi Fi out of the open windows when we cleaned the house on Saturdays. Such great memories.

Your Mom??? , Heck I do that now!!! It pumps me up for gym.OMG I’m so old !

Whitley 10-24-2022 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2150238)
Somebody on FaceBook said there's place back in there called The Hobby or something like that. It could be a private residence being rented out for parties. We don't hear it down here, good luck finding who the culprit is.


Could this be the source?
The Hobby Room.

Tel: (352) 250-5800

871 NE 107th Blvd, The Villages, FL 32182

KathieI 10-24-2022 08:46 AM

My neighbors heard it in Mallory, I didn't, thank Goodness.

Since that area is Lady Lake, I do believe they have a different noise ordinance than Sumter does.

jrref 10-24-2022 08:47 AM

The Hobby Room is a business so if there is no noise ordinance the police can't do anything about overly loud music at late hours which is bad news for anyone living close to them in the Villages. That said, the only thing that can be done is to see if the land is zoned for business and if any special license and or insurance is needed. If so, this can put them out of business. Looking at their web site their costs for parties are pretty low so my guess is they don't have a lot of overhead.

I wonder if the Developer will get involved since this is a Big negative for people living close in the Villages. People living outside the Villages will have to go to the County and complain. Either way if there are no restrictions, restrictions can be put in place, but it might take a while to do this.

Whitley 10-24-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2150427)
Your Mom??? , Heck I do that now!!! It pumps me up for gym.OMG I’m so old !

I started to listen to Sinatra while in college in the eighties. During that decade he made a big comeback. Interest in Bennet was also high, not to mention Big Band.

OhioBuckeye 10-24-2022 09:39 AM

Well Seattle won’t make any mad by telling them they are not allowed to have fun or have parties. I suggest to keep all windows shut, I seriously don’t think a party could be that bad unless the party was at least a block away! Man you must of bought near a young peoples area. Hope it gets better for you! You should of looked for a house in the older areas.

ex34449 10-24-2022 09:42 AM

Currently, more than 71,000 households make up The Villages.
You should have heard how quiet the place was prior to the building. I use to camp there when I was younger and much of it was pristine wilderness.

Aces4 10-24-2022 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2150419)
Agree, but its obvious that not all do their jobs, or do it well.

Obvious to whom?

Bilyclub 10-24-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KathieI (Post 2150451)
My neighbors heard it in Mallory, I didn't, thank Goodness.

Since that area is Lady Lake, I do believe they have a different noise ordinance than Sumter does.


It's not Lady Lake. The Sumter line is East of there. The big apartments are also in Sumter Co, but get there water from Lady Lake.

Babubhat 10-24-2022 12:05 PM

It is a nuisance and actionable. People are entitled to peaceful enjoyment of their residence. Get lawyers involved if you want quiet.

I suggest everyone get a decibel app to record the noise level to be used as evidence.

It would be beneficial if comments had citations to the law.

Property law gives a land owner the right to the full use, and enjoyment of his property, without any substantial interference from others, under reasonable circumstances.. If a defendant hosts an unreasonably loud party which disturbs the defendants sleep, the defendant has acted negligently and created a nuisance. The plaintiff’s comforts were violated by excessively loud noise due to the lack of the defendant to use proper care to prevent this from happening.

Use and Enjoyment Inference of Private Property - Tort - LAWS.com

LAFwUs 10-24-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2150543)
It is a nuisance and actionable. People are entitled to peaceful enjoyment of their residence. Get lawyers involved if you want quiet.

I suggest everyone get a decibel app to record the noise level to be used as evidence.

It would be beneficial if comments had citations to the law.

Property law gives a land owner the right to the full use, and enjoyment of his property, without any substantial interference from others, under reasonable circumstances.. If a defendant hosts an unreasonably loud party which disturbs the defendants sleep, the defendant has acted negligently and created a nuisance. The plaintiff’s comforts were violated by excessively loud noise due to the lack of the defendant to use proper care to prevent this from happening.

Use and Enjoyment Inference of Private Property - Tort - LAWS.com

^ THIS ^ is 100% correct.
Sound can be considered a "public nuisance" any time it intrudes on other people unreasonably. The City, The Villages, Property owner, etc can be held legally responsible should they not make attempts to identify, alter, remedy it, and/or enforce existing law/rules which not doing so, lets one entity run amuck, at the damage of others.

This applies to excessively barking dogs all the way up to a reoccurring party at a business, that seems to have disturbed possibly hundreds of people more than once, and during what may be 'off / quiet' hours.

One could seek an injunction & or apply pressure in other ways.
Media, signed resident petitions to city authorities, filing code violations, business license violations/revocation, fire code violations, etc...ie: several ways to skin a cat, if the application of, fits.

The sheer number of people that were affected by these "parties", would hold considerable weight if applied correctly.
If you were bothered by this, speak up, let them know this is not cool and we as a community will take action if it continues, I assure you they dont want that!
...heres a place to start
>> https://hobby-room.wixsite.com/thehobbyroom/contact <<

Babubhat 10-24-2022 02:45 PM

Evidence needs to be obtained. The more the better. No point in complaining if unwilling to take action.

Call the Orlando news station and newspapers. Costs nothing and should get swift response. They love these stories. The town council will enjoy being inundated by reporters on tv as to why no action taken. Television gold for them.

Orlando FL TV Stations and Channel Guide - ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX Digital

coffeebean 10-24-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2150436)
Could this be the source?
The Hobby Room.

Tel: (352) 250-5800

871 NE 107th Blvd, The Villages, FL 32182

Yes. Someone up-thread listed the website. The actual address is 8711 NE 107th Blvd., according to Google maps. On one page of the website, the address is listed as 871 and another page has the correct address as 8711.

coffeebean 10-24-2022 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2150453)
I started to listen to Sinatra while in college in the eighties. During that decade he made a big comeback. Interest in Bennet was also high, not to mention Big Band.

I've been a big Sinatra fan since I was a kid. All thanks to Mom. Also love Louis Prima and Keeley Smith.

Babubhat 10-24-2022 03:01 PM

Why has this not been brought to the Governor’s attention. He just passed car noise law. Light up the phones! Call Webster too.

Beginning July 1, drivers can receive a fine of up to $114 for blasting music in their cars.

The new law allows officers to ticket those playing music audible from a minimum 25-foot distance.

For reference, the average car is about 15 feet long, making it within the statute for an officer to ticket the driver in front of them if their music is audible.

These regulations become even stricter within close proximity of churches, schools and hospitals.

To many, this law produces positive change for the comfort, safety and well-being of Floridians.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 10-24-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2150453)
I started to listen to Sinatra while in college in the eighties. During that decade he made a big comeback. Interest in Bennet was also high, not to mention Big Band.

In 1966 I had just come home for a break from Vietnam , some of the neighborhood mob guys took me along to see Sinatra in Vegas . I was introduced to him later at a large party by one of the guys, he told Frank, Charlie is back from Vietnam and heading back again . He shook my hand and I told him we had the same birthday December 12, so we took a picture and he signed it, Frank and Charlie the birthday boys . I got good use out of that picture, I would pull out my wallet in some bar or airport while talking to some woman and kind of accidentally let her see it and they would say OMG you know Frank and I’d say ,well he calls me sometimes lol

Berferful 10-24-2022 04:43 PM

Please tell me it’s quiet down at the Villages. We have a neighbor here in Mass. that has Sub Woofers in his car and in his house. There is no way to get away from the bass. It’s not the music or the rap, it’s the bass. I don’t care if you’re stone deaf, the bass comes through like a fricken earthquake. Aaagh!

Babubhat 10-24-2022 05:09 PM

Read the local ordinance and contact your local Representative. You need documentation, preferably from a professional who can testify if needed.

The ordinance for exterior noise, M.G.L. Chapter 111, Section 142A-M, reads as follows:

A noise source will be considered to be violating the Department’s noise regulation (310 CMR 7.10) if the source:

1. Increases the broadband sound level by more than 10dB(A) above ambient, or

2. Produce a “puretone” condition – when any octave band center frequency sound pressure level exceeds the two adjacent center frequency sound pressure levels by 3 decibels or more.

These criteria are measured both at the property line and at the nearest inhabited residence. “Ambient” is defined as the background A-weighted sound level that is exceeded 90% of the time, measured during equipment operating hours. “Ambient” may also be established by other means with consent of the Department.


Massachusetts Noise Code Per Town And City

coffeebean 10-24-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2150595)
In 1966 I had just come home for a break from Vietnam , some of the neighborhood mob guys took me along to see Sinatra in Vegas . I was introduced to him later at a large party by one of the guys, he told Frank, Charlie is back from Vietnam and heading back again . He shook my hand and I told him we had the same birthday December 12, so we took a picture and he signed it, Frank and Charlie the birthday boys . I got good use out of that picture, I would pull out my wallet in some bar or airport while talking to some woman and kind of accidentally let her see it and they would say OMG you know Frank and I’d say ,well he calls me sometimes lol

Great story. Thanks.

Papa_lecki 10-24-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2150629)

The ordinance for exterior noise, M.G.L. Chapter 111, Section 142A-M, reads as follows:

A noise source will be considered to be violating the Department’s noise regulation (310 CMR 7.10) if the source:

1. Increases the broadband sound level by more than 10dB(A) above ambient, or

Massachusetts Noise Code Per Town And City

Uh Oh
“ Frequent pickleball sounds are typically about 70 dBa at about 100 feet away from the strike of the ball.”

The sound of pickleball – a detailed explanation, and what you need to consider before building courts – Crazy Pickleball Lady

blueash 10-24-2022 06:31 PM

Is the complaint here the volume of the music as it sures seems as if many of you have a problem with the genre. If you are complaining in large part because it is the most successful style of music for the last 25 years, get off my lawn. Think hard about why this is bothering you so much. If it were Sinatra or the Beatles would you feel differently?

Sumter County has a noise ordinance which was toughened in 2016


If you read the Sumter code it only applies to unincorporated residential areas of the county. What is the zoning at the Hobby Room?

PugMom 10-24-2022 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2150274)
I never did anything like that.

we did, but so far out of the way we didnt want to get caught!, lol. a town called Middlefield had endless apple orchards. we'd wait until after 9pm, sneak out along the dirt road, then party 'till whenever. good times were had by all :loco:


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