So let me preface with a couple of things, I’m not the complaining party and I genuinely like and respect the development group. That said...and since across the threads on any given day, people want to equate TV to a municipality. Fair. I don’t ‘blame’ the developer for anything...but be serious for a second, just like any CEO stacking a board or Mayor stacking a city council....the developer has very much to do ‘with the matter’. Recent history has shown us that they will support candidates that have similar ideas and concepts that align with their vision. Nothing wrong with it, thats the system. I also subscribe to the the theory...to the victor goes the spoils!Go Eastport!

Kind of
 

I agree, but I am wondering why school taxes should be paid by an age restricted community that doesn’t have children attending. I’m in the camp that the Villages should be it’s own city.

Question....is there such thing as a ‘city’, anywhere, that is incorporated ....in three separate counties and over 35+ squ. miles?

Wildwood. Villagers would first need to petition or vote (either one) to dissolution. Then they would need to reincorporate. It would be easiest to do in Wildwood where Villagers outnumber non Village residents.

http://floridaleagueofcities.com/doc...s.pdf?sfvrsn=4

Huh?
 

Did you read anything before you purchased your home? Have you ever lived anywhere else? This is just the way it goes. You pay for lots of things you never use. I don’t use the playground in my neighborhood back home. But it is a benefit to my community and a selling point if I decide to sell. And on and on and on…

On the other hand, why should someone who pays for golf and pickleball but doesn't play golf or pickleball have to pay extra for the one thing he does use, the Fitness centers? Asking for a friend...

Your original post was ‘The Villages should be it’s own city’. So you would agree that it’s impossible in totality...
for the reasons I stated in my response. Reincorporate or secession isn’t new and it’s always an effort. Wildwood is only one village of approx.18K residents and sits in one county...much easier/realistic path.

Well said.

I am not going to get deep in the weeds here but have a couple of points. The new CDD representatives are initially appointed by the developer. I believe (and others will tell me if I am wrong🙂) that over a seven year period they are replaced by non-partisan elected representatives. I don’t know for sure, but would be willing to bet that there are more district representatives that are “loyalists” to the HOA. The HOA is no fan of The Villages development company.

The AAC/PWAC is similar in that the members are elected by the residents. The difference here is Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter Landing development districts have a seat on the AAC and PWAC. These two commercial areas are controlled by the developer and has a person representing them on the boards. Again, at least for the AAC, there are more board members loyal to the HOA. So, I agree with you comment about to the victor goes the spoils. But in this case the victor might actually be the HOA.

I understand we all pay an equal amount for services and amenities. Could Michael be upset that we all continue to pay, month after month, but are seeing sad results? Someone should be held accountable for the condition of the golf courses. Michael may not want to pay others for a service they are not providing. Didn't it take a lawsuit to insist Paradise Rec Center's terrible condition be corrected? Our amenity fees are not always spent wisely. Michael may have had enough.

I feel like there should be a swimming only pass because I don't use anything on that list except the pool and I never play golf never go to the rec centers and almost never go to the squares because everybody's so Snotty and in their own little clicks there's no point.

Oh boy....the thread just reignited. Smh

Yea, it kinda sucks. I’d move if I were you.

For years they collected STATE money from taxes all Florida residents pay. The money (grants) were extended to various communities to support and/or stimulate Florida tourism. Perhaps this source has "dried up " and now 100% in on the retails businesses ? ? Maybe that why a lot of the shops that were once so welcomed by residents, have left ? I patronize B&N frequently, still that "old type" who likes an actual book rather than my tablet, when reading. However, each times I go to the counter to check out, I wonder how much longer they will be able to keep the doors of such a large attractive building open ?

Agree on hard copy books....and newspapers.
B&N? Assuming you are talking about Barnes and Noble. It’s not a local thing....they’ve closed up across the country since pandemic. Majority of their business is running college bookstores and online purchases. They had a big footprint at one time. Not worth the high rents and infrastructure. Always enjoyed spending time there and their coffee bar....

Very well said. You may not want to, or be able to, enjoy all the amenities offered here but they are made available to you. Treat The Villages as a smorgasbord: take what your diet, allergies, tastes, appetite allows….or not

Sorry. The menu here is not “ a la carte”. The Villages is more like a “Golden Corral”. (In keeping with my prior comment)

Sounds like you are unhappy
Move!

The "outdoor" fitness equipment is free to use. As well as all the walking (jogging) paths.

No it's not, we/I paid for it and I don't use it.

:cryin2::cryin2::cryin2:

:1rotfl:

You moved to the current environment. It did not move to you, nor did it change.

You purchase something that was blue and later decided you like green. Should the manufacturer of the blue item be responsible to make you happy by giving you a green one?

While not to minimize your point, the masses that moved here, wanting the amenities as represented, would be injured by such a change. That would be unfair to them.

Moving is always an option. Remember, it was an unforced decision to move here, or to buy the blue item for that matter.

At the end of the day, other than our health, virtually everything boils down to economics.

I hope on balance, you are still enjoying yourself.

Then why did you move here?

Enjoy
 

Enjoy the life that buzzes around you. Even though I don’t always partake, I like everything about the place, both good and bad. It’s not a bad thing to drive by beautiful golf courses; it breaks up the monotony of house to house construction.

Must be a country bumpkin
 

NYC is in several counties, whether we ever build up to that would remain to be seen. A start is needed just like Wildwood. No, I’m not looking for Bronx, Brooklyn or Kings, I’m just saying what is evident. My address city is The Villages, but hey just like on Miracle on 34th Street, it’s a US postal service issue…lol

If it means a decent corned beef sangwich or Brooklyn style pizza....i’ll accept that model sir!

Who? 😶

"Michael" doesn't pay for those items (directly). But he does pay the fees that he agreed to when he decided to live here and become a Villager. Amenity fees are kind of like taxes that the government collects. It goes into a big pot out of which the government pays for various things the government takes care of, like the military and equipment, infrastructure, etc. Just because "Michael" doesn't get to drive the destroyer, fly the jet fighter, or drive the tank doesn't mean "Michael" can opt out of helping to purchase or maintain the things "Michael" doesn't personally use. As a member of our society you pay your share, like it or not. As a member of TV, you pay your agreed to Amenity fee. Want to opt out of taxes or amenity fees. Moving is "Michael's" option.

And we thank you for your contribution, neighbor. 😘😘😘

I didn’t quite catch his name....can you repeat it!

I thought we all liked The Villages when we bought here. Things seem to be pretty much still as advertised when we bought here 11 years ago. A wonderful community with lots of things available for all. But now there are some who want to turn the goose that layed our golden egg into a flock of ducks. Be careful with what you wish for.

Michael. But he probably wouldn't mind if you called him "Mike ". I don't know him, personally. OP mentioned him in the first post. Say, you don't think OP just made him up, do you? Hmm! Wonder what OP is up to? 😶😬🤨😱

So Off
 

Let me ask you, when you bought your house did you remodel at all? It’s remodeling time.

Why do I have to pay fir pickleball maintenance?

Took out carpet, put in tile. I get your point, but it isn't even apples vs oranges. It's more like taking your Ferrari to several custom shops and having each one customize a different part of the body, engine, suspension. Even different size wheels. Imagine, if you can, what we would end up with if various Villages seceded from The Villages and were taken over by various local townships. Now, that is a pretty ugly thought.

Because!?

You’re analogy sounds more like a VW Thing than a Ferrari....

Lot of click bait BS posts on this thread……………..

Yeah, when you are done making the changes! The Villages are pretty great just as they are. A few minor adjustments. Don't try to reinvent the wheel.

( Actually, I loved the VW Thing. It was cute in a hideous, gremliny kind of way. ) 😈🤡👺😈

I 'm trying.