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Pressure Regulator Only works on Flowing Water
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One way to minimize the pressure build up during no water usage is to shut off the water heater when you are away and or keep a few drops dripping from a faucet. This way the internal water pressure should not increase above the water supply pressure even if the expansion tank is not functioning. There is no closed volume being heated up resulting in expansion of the closed section of water which would increase the house internal water pressure. Alternatively, the filter housing etc. must be designed to withstand the pressure equal to the water heater safety valve setting just as the water heater is designed. |
Typically, the T&P relief valve on a water heater is set to open if the water temperature exceeds 210 degrees Fahrenheit or if the pressure exceeds 150 psi. When the relief valve opens, it doesn't take much water to be expelled to reduce the pressure, maybe a cup or so. So, if you see a small amount of water in the overflow pan under the water heater, it could be that the relief valve has tripped. If the Nova canisters are only designed to handle up to 90 psi of pressure, it is very possible that a defective expansion tank can cause the canister to leak, even if you have a pressure regulator on the water supply pipe to your house. A defective expansion tank will not necessarily caused the water pressure to increase. But, what can happen is that you use all of the hot water in the tank, and then you shut off all plumbing fixtures. This causes the tank to fill up with cold water, and the water heater heats it up causing thermal expansion of the water and a huge increase in the water pressure because the water has nowhere to go. Note that older houses with one or two drippy faucets will not experience this pressure increase, or if your ice maker calls for water while the tank is heating up. Also a very high temperature setting on the water heater and a very cold water temperature will exasperate the problem.
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Can you tell us how big a problem this is right now? How many customers has this affected? Does it happen when the cartridge reaches a certain age? Does it matter whether you have tank or tankless heaters? What is the replacement policy/process? Thank you. |
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I could have moved on to a different supplier but I trust Nova and see no reason to change. |
Thousands of us south of 44 have tankless water heaters so no expansion tanks. I wonder if we’re less likely to see canisters cracking eventually? Our Nova system is less than 3 years old, and so far it’s okay.
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Hopefully they honor the change with current customers
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So many say “Tough luck Charlie” and move on. |
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I don't have an exact number of system issues it has been isolated out of 25,000+ installs Both, more issues with tank systems due to bad expansions tanks on them (not our product) when we do filter changes our tech's do a quick tap/sound check to tell if it full of water. They also check for any abnormalities in the system. The water system in TV is not pressure regulated at each home like other municipalities, they are designed with different size pipes in the street to in theory control pressure. We have personally seen pressures over 100 =120 psi at times in different villages. These pressure spikes also effect the rest of the plumbing in your home, the under cabinet water hoses, washing machine etc We recommend adding a pressure regulating valve on the incoming water pipe. Replacement policy is 100% first year and and optional 5 year extended plan |
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As for Nova. I don’t like to bash businesses and that’s not what I’m trying to do. Since I put in the system in 2021, I’ve had to call them out for leaks more than this latest time. When we decided on putting in the new system, he did some sort of temp fix for the leak just until the new system could get put in. Unfortunately, the next available appt they had was sept 30 and I’m leaving for out of state surgery on sept 25. I’d have to wait until Nov to get the new system put in so I needed to just bite the bullet and get the pagusus. It’s good Nova is obviously super busy so they won’t miss me. Lol. So yes, I guess the 283.00 was for coming out and the temp fix. No canisters were replaced and no new system. That was sort of the icing on the cake to go through with Pagusus. Reading their replies… out of the times they’ve come out to fix leaks including this time, not once did anyone question or mention water pressure. |
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One other thing I forgot to mention, when changing the filters on my old Nova system, when I turned the water back on I could hear the filter canisters "creaking" a little as the pressure built up. Now with the new system, the Express Water filter housings are thicker so I don't hear that. It would be really nice if Nova would give a discount to replace an old system that is showing signs of failure. |
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I know the Pegasus system is a good system but their sales people can be very deceptive. A year ago, a neighbor was talking to a Pegasus sales person looking to buy a system and of course they asked if any neighbors were interested. I had the Pegasus sales guy come by just to help out my neighbor. So, he takes some of my water from the tap and puts some chemicals in it and tells me I have Chlorine and my water is very hard and lots of sediment. So, I then fill a glass of water from the tap and take my pool chemical test kit out and show him there is no chlorine then I took out my water hardness kit and showed him my water had zero hardness. I then explained I had the Nova three stage filter with a forth 1 micron filter stage that I added on my own and the Nova water softener. He then packed up his stuff an left without saying a word. |
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We can’t all be having a water pressure at the same time! Obviously there’s a defect in their canisters now. I suppose!
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