But there's always an idiot in the right lane at that roundabout. And boy do they get wigged-out if you try to get into the bypass lane ahead of them.

It seems like a lot of drivers feel like it is so important to them to use that by-pass, even though in reality, it saves them very little time.

Human nature to some, I guess, that if there is an opportunity to save some time, regardless of how little time it is, they are willing to break the law and risk an accident to do it.

When traveling east on Stillwater Trail I always use the inner lane when going through this roundabout, and I have always been able to safely move to the right lane after the roundabout and use the by-pass.

Hi dbussone: Some drivers purposefully use both lanes in an effort to control traffic behind them... not so good. However, on the other hand when there is a traffic jam on a interstate with only one lane open its a good thing when a semi blocks off traffic forcing drivers to alternate and assisting in alleviating the back up. something that should be obvious to drivers but then we do have drivers that believe their "special"and deserve to be first.

Can you imagine some of these folks in self driving vehicles trusting the vehicle to manipulate a round-a-bout:22yikes:

Its not 50 mp there:D Actually that area under discussion is heavily patrolled with radar and the fines are heavy

Do you really think it helps? Every time I see this, all it does is move the merge point back ANOTHER 1/2 mile or so---same pile up, that's just what happens when 2 lanes merge to 1. Yes, there are always a few clowns that try to sneak a couple of cars ahead and ride the closed lane to the end, but I don't think they contribute much to the back-up.
Meanwhile, who the h*ll do truck drivers think they are to dictate traffic flow to everyone else? They are not LEOs, they don't make the rules. If I were LEO I'd ticket every one of them for not staying in their lane! Same is true in a RB if the driver INTENTIONALLY tries to control everybody else. I've been driving for 45 years , I don't need my Mommy on the road. End of rant.

I was on Utah highway a few years ago. That's along way from home for me. There was an accident way up ahead. A police car got in front of me, put on his lights and slowed all a lanes down to 35mph. I think it was a a brilliant way to control traffic making it safe for the road people and ambulances up ahead.

This is not meant to support or contradict anyone. It's just an aside to a common conversation on TOTV. It's raining.

That's fine. And if they want to put a LEO out directing traffic, all the better. But private citizens do not have the authority to dictate their terms to others, LEO does.

I don't really care at all yet but I think it's possible that people don't have this type of intersection in the places they lived in their whole life. I saw some dopey thing's on the road while in TV but took them in stride because of the way things are on the road in N.J. It's gotta be rough being at an advanced age and having to negotiate a rotary, roundabout, circle for the first time after driving for so long without having to negotiate a road like this. Defensive driving at all times is the answer because the dopey things will never ever stop.

I for one not going to argue with 18 wheelie, I stay clear of them. You never know what's going to pop (fall) out the sides, or when tire may come bouncing off the spare rack, or blowout with huge chunks of rubber flying towards you.If they want lane or both lanes I don't get ****ed just get out of the road.

I use to live up north, I was especially concerned when I seen car or truck pass with huge chunk of ice or snow build up on the roofs which could come flying off any minute. :rant-rave: End od rant.

Saw the same thing recently at Buena Vista and 466..... R turn out of L turn lane..... across 3 lanes of traffic...... Lord help us all.