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Barefoot 11-26-2016 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by suesiegel (Post 1326036)
You can actually LEGALLY make a right hand turn from the left hand lane. However, LEGAL does not mean it is safe to do so.

I know two people who've had accidents making a right hand turn from the left lane (when the turn is the third exit).
You are right Sue, legal doesn't mean it is safe to do so.
In both cases, the drivers in the right lane that broadsided them were not charged by the police.

golf2140 11-26-2016 02:45 PM

It's that time of year, roundabouts, paths all the b----ing starts

golfing eagles 11-26-2016 02:59 PM

Like Judge Judy says, "You can't fix stupid"

Putt4Dough 11-26-2016 05:45 PM

My rule for roundabouts

do not enter when other cars are present

then drive like hell to my exit

so far it's working good

golfing eagles 11-26-2016 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Putt4Dough (Post 1326200)
My rule for roundabouts

do not enter when other cars are present

then drive like hell to my exit

so far it's working good

For what, 2 months???? Give it time, and somebody will do something so idiotic that there is no defense that can be planned in advance. My personal favorite---encountering a car driving clockwise in a RB.

Polar Bear 11-26-2016 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1326084)
They are now installing roundabouts in other towns and cities across the country. Why? They are safer and move the traffic more efficiently.

That's a fact.

Mrs. Robinson 11-27-2016 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1326027)
...and far less efficiently than the roundabouts.

Define "less effective."

In this case, less effective also means fewer accidents.

Mrs. Robinson 11-27-2016 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1326084)
They are now installing roundabouts in other towns and cities across the country. Why? They are safer and move the traffic more efficiently.

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1326222)
That's a fact.

The effective and (especially) efficient ones are usually quite large -- large enough to handle some pretty heavy traffic.
Those which have been built here are much too small to make traffic flow safely and efficiently.

The real problem is, regardless of how much the topic is talked and written about, 95% of the residents still don't know how to drive them!
They either just don't get it, don't care or are simply scared to death of them.

chuck90199 11-27-2016 08:19 AM

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Here's my favorite roundabout. Oh, wait. It's in Massachusetts, so it's called a rotary. This would be a riot after "happy hour."

Polar Bear 11-27-2016 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1326300)
Define "less effective."

In this case, less effective also means fewer accidents.

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1326301)
The effective and (especially) efficient ones are usually quite large -- large enough to handle some pretty heavy traffic.
Those which have been built here are much too small to make traffic flow safely and efficiently.

The real problem is, regardless of how much the topic is talked and written about, 95% of the residents still don't know how to drive them!
They either just don't get it, don't care or are simply scared to death of them.

Efficient (the word I used) means handles a greater volume of traffic and is also safer. The roundabouts in TV are an appropriate size for the traffic they are asked to handle and are still far more efficient than either stop signs or traffic signals would be at the locations they are implemented.

Replacing all the roundabouts in TV (it's not gonna happen by-the-way) would certainly result in far greater delays and almost as certainly an increase in the number of accidents. This claim is backed up by numerous traffic studies over the years as roundabouts have become more widespread.

Roundabouts are only good at intersections and in areas that meet certain criteria, and the locations in TV where roundabouts have been implemented meet those criteria.

From a more anecdotal perspective, I have been in TV for almost four years now, and I've never witnessed an accident in a roundabout. I've seen a few of the silly, potentially dangerous driver actions of course, but none that couldn't be avoided by adhering to the two most important roundabout driving principles... 1) when approaching a roundabout always yield to traffic in both lanes of the roundabout, and 2) never drive alongside another vehicle when within the roundabout. Obey those two "rules" and the only mistake that can hurt you in the roundabout is one of your own doing.

I will agree with you that many residents, and especially visitors, don't know how to drive the roundabouts. But if you drive according to the two rules listed above, even those drivers' mistakes will be easily avoidable.

By the way, just for the record, during my career I spent roughly thirty years in the field of traffic and transportation. I am a Professional Engineer in the State of Florida and have a Masters Degree in Transportation Engineering from the University of Florida.

golfing eagles 11-27-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1326401)
By the way, just for the record, during my career I spent roughly thirty years in the field of traffic and transportation. I am a Professional Engineer in the State of Florida and have a Masters Degree in Transportation Engineering from the University of Florida.

Doesn't matter, people will argue with you anyway:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Barefoot 11-27-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1326221)
For what, 2 months???? Give it time, and somebody will do something so idiotic that there is no defense that can be planned in advance. My personal favorite---encountering a car driving clockwise in a RB.

I haven't experienced wrong-way driving in a roundabout, but my husband has.
The driver going the wrong way shook her fist at him.

biker1 11-27-2016 03:40 PM

Yes, that is the situation you must watch out for. I have had a couple of close calls myself when I have been in the right lane. Only enter a roundabout when there will be no cars adjacent to you.

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1326085)
I know two people who've had accidents making a right hand turn from the left lane (when the turn is the third exit).
You are right Sue, legal doesn't mean it is safe to do so.
In both cases, the drivers in the right lane that broadsided them were not charged by the police.


tedquick 11-27-2016 07:50 PM

Whenever I am in a round about I assume that anyone anywhere near me is a potential accident waiting to happen so I watch them all very carefully. I've seen plenty of stupid things happen but so far I have remained accident free. (knock on wood).

ColdNoMore 11-27-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 1326555)
Whenever I am in a round about I assume that anyone anywhere near me is a potential accident waiting to happen so I watch them all very carefully.

The Golden Rule of roundabouts. :thumbup:


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