4 houses in my neighborhood sold in less than two months, one didn’t last week. Houses are selling just market flooded with new and resales and interests rates are high.

IS IT?

When I look up Avis locations in Alaska I don’t see Homer, Seward, or Talkeetna yet I will be in my Avis car there. Does the location of the rented property define the location of the business or is the location of the business defined by where the actual transaction is conducted?

If you are buying to “live off “ other people, yeah, then please DON’T BUY in The Villages. See if there is anywhere (in the world) where one can do that. As far as old miserly people… so how many retirement homes (with all our amenities, or even without) are free?

Maybe just ban short term rentals? You still could allow long term rentals. Just no motel type renting for 2 or 3 nights. One wonders what percentage of these short term rentals are being reported to Florida tax authorities and paying the sales tax for STR’s? I believe after three years of continuing to not pay the sales tax on these rentals it can result in a serious charge under Florida law. Maybe someone else has more knowledge on this subject.

From the mouth of the developer, running a STR out of one’s home is definitely considered running a business out of the home, if the landlord is concurrently living in the home. Renting out one’s home, WHILE NOT CONCURRENCY LIVING THERE, whether it be by the night, week, month, year, or longer, is not considered running a business out of the home. Whether or not it violates a deed restriction apparently depends on which CDD the home is located in. It violates deed restrictions in the older districts but over time the deed restriction language has changed. It’s highly unlikely the likes of AIRBNB’s were even considered when CDD1 was being developed.

Again, from the mouth of the developer to my ears, in my District (CDD1), renting out one or more rooms in a home, while concurrently living there, violates not one, but two deed restrictions. First, it is considered running a business out of the home, and second, it violates the deed restriction that homes are to be used as single family residential units. Unfortunately, enforcement of internal deed restrictions falls on the developer, and is not required but instead is optional at their discretion, and they have chosen not to enforce STR’s.

Uh, the amenities here aren't free. I'm just telling you what the powers that be know, the sales here are very much propped by investors.

I don’t have a rental, but since the fee is being paid by the homeowner, what’s the difference if the home is occupied year round or a couple times a month? If it’s a full time resident they would use the amenities year round verses a renter using them whenever the home is a short term rental. If charging an extra fee for a short term renter why is the rental property owner paying a monthly fee?

It's not about a "fee". It's about the identity of our community. Are we a 55+ retirement community or a weekend vacation resort for 20 somethings that want to party all night and trash their neighbor's property???? Yes, that's hyperbole, but it is the experience of some, not all, that live next to an Airbnb.

I agree, but I think that they should be paid for by everyone who uses them. Like, don’t “advertise” on my dime type of thing. And don’t lower my life style so others can benefit. Like some college kids on their break etc.The problem is not their age, but their behavior. They have a lot of energy, no manners, noisy, and they don’t give a damn. Not all, my neighbor has her kids and their friends over regularly. We are talking about a large number all at once. Some stay over at grandpa’s place too. When they come they go house to house on the street, to see if any one needs help with something. They were just brought up that way.

In what world does that make sense? Bizorio world? :1rotfl:

Well I think any over 4 abuse, see how that works we all have opinions but we don’t get to decide.

If I were going to rent a place for a wild weekend of partying (as if I did that), the Villages would be the last place that would occur to me to go. Do people actually do that? They must based on the comments I read here. Why don't they pick someplace more interesting or fun? Okay gang, lets have a party, where should we go? Vegas, nah, the Keys, nah, Myrtle beach nah, how about the Villages retirement community.....alright lets go!

Easy, it is CHEAP, especially if you are a friend of a friend, sleep 6 on the floor, close to Disney, only one hour drive from the beach etc etc. Lots of people, little money and if you have any, it goes on booze and drugs. I know it’s party time when I see the barrel of chips and truck load of pizzas arriving.

Courts all over the United States have come to a different conclusion and interpretation.

Most courts have ruled that STR's (on their face) is not "running a business out of the home", they have essentially ruled that the business is run somewhere else and the "renting out of the home", is mere the product the business (which is run elsewhere) sells/rents.

They have generally maintained the "house/home" is still being used for "residential purposes" (people are sleeping & cooking there.)

I don't agree with the interpretation, but apparently I'm not allowed to make the rules. The communities who have lucked out and been able to significantly reduce STR's, had zoning regulations that specifically defined daily rentals or STR's as prohibited use.

STR's are one of the best examples of an entirely new business model, that caught regulators flat-footed and they could never catch up. The early adopters had to much invested and were willing to spend big money, to maintain that business.

Think about File Sharing with music. We woke up one day and you could get a digital copy of any bit of music you wanted, for free. (i.e. Napster & other P2P apps). A great example of technology out-pacing regulation and it changed things forever.

I hadn't seen the below post, when I wrote the above, but what Tophcfa was told by the Developer, is exactly what most courts have ruled.

That's the thing. This entire thread really is about the STR Landlord Boogeyman and it was disguised initially as a wear and tear issue on the amenities.

But to your point, this will have almost no impact on STR. Landlords will just pass the cost on to the renter. It would have to be a hard count restriction and then that's going to impact the community itself more than it does the landlords

I personally don't see hoards of young people coming in and renting for a day or two and throwing wild parties. I hear 3rd hand legends of them and fears of them, but I don't see it happening. Still, if what people want is a restriction on STR, which it is clear that is what the folks in this thread want more than guest pass restrictions, then your efforts should be put into pursuing that and limiting rental terms less than X days, X weeks, or X months.

Of course, people will violate it and then it becomes an enforcement issue, but then at least the local residents will have some ability to impact the homeowner.