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- The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)

- - Oren Miller (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/oren-miller-345473/)

Rail roaded in the first place. Knows he was right and never quit the fight to get justice. Could or would u do the same??

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 2275285)

There is this.

Revolt in The Villages Ended With a 72-Year-Old Political Prisoner

And this...

The Intercept - InfluenceWatch - InfluenceWatch

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2275305)

The Fox is O's wife???

Or similarly close.

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2275305)

The Fox is O's wife???

:shrug:

How about this, he was charged and then found guilty by a jury of his peers. Then there must have been enough proof that what he did broke the law and now a judge says all 12 of the jurors was wrong. These people broke the law and suffer the consequences of their actions.

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2275369)

Did you read this post from a user who was practicing attorney for 40 years who was both a Federal and State prosecutor?

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...90-post57.html

Are the Millers still residing in The Villages? I think if it was me, I would want to be a million miles away. I was brought up on "you cannot fight City Hall" and I guess it is correct.

I am surprised this story has not been picked up by one of the major news channels or news shows.

Is it just me who doesn’t get why people are beating up on Mr. Miller? It almost like there is still a dark edge against this law abiding citizen. A man that wanted to serve our community and stand for what is right, is being kicked at for no reason. What is wrong with some people?

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2275057)

No... thats the whole point. Put through hell then found not guilty after all. Witch hunt comes to mind...

Yes, like the one going on right now in New York City

I stand firmly with the Governor's views on this.

Also support the developer.

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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2275388)

Yes, like the one going on right now in New York City

Oh my yes, poor, poor innocent abused guy who did nothing wrong………….

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Originally Posted by Cliff Fr (Post 2275388)

Yes, like the one going on right now in New York City

Which one is that? I am aware of a civil, not criminal trial, where a very powerful developer and he and his corporations and his children are accused of using their influence cheating to get a financial goal that saved them millions of dollars. Kind of like how the Morse family used its power to save itself millions by having the taxpayers pick up the bill for building infrastructure. But that is a civil trial and there is only a financial penalty not being sent to jail. Is that the one that has you find comparable?

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2275391)

I stand firmly with the Governor's views on this.

Also support the developer.

I feel the opposite but my explanation would not be allowed here.

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2275034)

Why is it that Oren Miller was removed from office but George Santos, who seems to have done all sorts of illegal things, has not been?

Federal vs state.

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2275369)

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Originally Posted by lawgolfer (Post 2275190)

As a practicing attorney for 40 years who was both a Federal and State prosecutor, I fully agree with the Court's opinion. In a criminal investigation, the goal of an investigator should be to determine if a crime was committed and not to cause a crime, perjury, to be committed. Unfortunately, the latter has become a dominant tactic of many investigators and prosecutors. In simple terms, it is: " I don't know that we can build a strong enough case against him. Instead, let's see if we can get him to lie". Frankly, this is not the way our investigators and prosecutors should go about their business.

Wise words and having read just about every article published about the situation and read the decisions, this seems to be exactly what happened.

The local newspapers and the Developer's Public Relations machine, did a heck of a job of polluting the jury pool, long before Miller got to trial.