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Rich42 03-26-2018 10:40 AM

The entire reason the postal system went to contract workers in the first place was to reduce the exorbitant cost of unionized employees on thei payroll with all the associated pay and benefit costs. So your assumption is backward leading to an erroneous conclusion!

HMLRHT1 03-26-2018 11:43 AM

FedEx and UPS don’t want it and are not set up to handle or distribute mail. Many packages are given to USPS from FedEx and UPS because they don’t want to deliver to a lot of houses.

HMLRHT1 03-26-2018 11:46 AM

They are not wasting tax dollars, they are self sufficient. In fact the US govt steals money from the USPS just like it does from SS and Medicare.

PPLEPEU 03-26-2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich42 (Post 1527082)
The entire reason the postal system went to contract workers in the first place was to reduce the exorbitant cost of unionized employees on thei payroll with all the associated pay and benefit costs. So your assumption is backward leading to an erroneous conclusion!

It is very unlikely that any Postal workers were laid off when the 20 contractors were hired to handle the mail in The Villages.

Even if there wasn't any work for the displaced USPS workers, they were assigned to other tasks, no matter how menial or wasteful. Then a few years down the road, management 'discovered' they would attain 'savings' by taking the outsourced work in house, using labor they already employ.

Crazy, but absolutely true. As a subcontractor looking to help the USPS save money, I saw this happen several times. They absolutely do not operate like any other normal business -- and therefore have a horrible time reducing their expenses.

pierrevlgs 03-26-2018 12:13 PM

Yes, We heard the same thing. Our contract person thinks she will be gone.

Read2know 03-26-2018 12:35 PM

Yeah, we all look forward to those financial seminars which will feed us and lie to us about much money we can lose ?

manaboutown 03-26-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1527010)
The problem is that the advertisers are not paying enough money to cover the cost to deliver the junk. Our Government is subsidizing the cost. It has gotten to the point that almost all of our mail is junk, and the "for profit" services like UPS and FEDEX are delivering the real mail. If the USPS charged the actual cost to deliver junk mail, the junk mail would disappear.

Actually we, the first class mail users, are heavily subsidizing the junk mail postal costs. Advertisers only pay a small portion of their actual mailing costs. They paid lobbyists to get congress to make this the way it works.

retiredguy123 03-26-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HMLRHT1 (Post 1527106)
They are not wasting tax dollars, they are self sufficient. In fact the US govt steals money from the USPS just like it does from SS and Medicare.

I'm sorry, but this is just not accurate. Even the U.S. Postmaster recently acknowledged that the USPS lost more than $5 billion is FY 2015 and another $5 billion+ in FY 2016, and that they need to change the way they operate. This has also been confirmed by several audits. The postal union does not want to count the cost for prefunding the future health and pension benefits of their retirees. When a postal employee retires, he/she will receive a generous pension and health insurance for the rest of their life. These are real costs to the taxpayer and they are enormous, sometimes lasting 30 years or more. The postal service is not self sufficient.

mrf6969 03-26-2018 02:51 PM

Stop the nonsense
 
Well as far as most folks are concerned and me included, Once or twice a week delivery would be ample. Most people now days do their bill paying and personal business electronically on-line. Cut the delivery way back and save a bundle and maybe just maybe the United States Postal Service will stop operating in the red.

judynlee 03-26-2018 02:59 PM

That IS what they are there for but they cannot recycle because there is (mysteriously) dog poop in them!

neelie 03-26-2018 03:38 PM

Talked to my postal person She told me that some contracts are being let go but USPS workers are not

pqrstar 03-26-2018 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1526989)
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One of the reasons we like the postal stations is that they are air conditioned and our prescriptions are mailed to us and it is very HOT here in the summer and traditional mail boxes would hurt many prescriptions in a short time due to excessive heat.

I've often wondered who pays the bills for the air conditioning, lights, upkeep, repair and taxes for these postal buildings.

I've also wondered if Citizens First Bank pays anyone for the use of the space for the ATM's at the postal stations.

Hope someone can enlighten me; however I fear we foot the bills here.

justjim 03-26-2018 04:36 PM

USPS lost two billion dollars last year. However, it’s not all their fault. From what I read, USPS has tried a number of times to close many rural unneeded post offices but Congress, because of politics, stops many efficiencies they attempt to make. That shouldn’t be a surprise, they (Congress) has run up a 21 trillion dollar debt.

600th Photo Sq 03-26-2018 04:37 PM

[QUOTE=pqrstar;1527217]I've often wondered who pays the bills for the air conditioning, lights, upkeep, repair and taxes for these postal buildings.

I've also wondered if Citizens First Bank pays anyone for the use of the space for the ATM's at the postal stations.

Hope someone can enlighten me; however I fear we foot the bills here.

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Bowtorc 03-26-2018 05:33 PM

They won't answer


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