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New Englander 03-28-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1527703)
The only reason the USPS is in debt is because in 2008 Congress mandated that they had to pre-fund future retiree health benefits for the next 75 years and do so by 2018.

:agree:

Jdmiata 03-29-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1527703)
The only reason the USPS is in debt is because in 2008 Congress mandated that they had to pre-fund future retiree health benefits for the next 75 years and do so by 2018.

Absolutely correct !

rhood 03-29-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1526656)
I say, let's all wait and see. NO postal worker either private or gubmint STAYS at our postal station all day. They drive up, go in, put the mail in our boxes and go to the next postal station.

Could it possibly be this will NOT be a calamity? Could this possibly be something that will work out fine? Could it possibly something that will have no effect on us at all? That the folks who now do the job could more easily take the postal test and be hired by the U.S.P.S.?

Let's see what happens before we all go into a funk.

Easy for you to say, you don’t have 900 mail boxes where you are.

retiredguy123 03-29-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1527703)
The only reason the USPS is in debt is because in 2008 Congress mandated that they had to pre-fund future retiree health benefits for the next 75 years and do so by 2018.

It is absurd to suggest that the USPS not be required to prefund future retirement benefits. They are a real cost to the taxpayers. I retired from the Federal Government 11 years ago and have already collected almost as much money in my pension as I did in salary during my entire career. No wonder people don't like unions. The postal union actually wants you to believe that the USPS pays for itself, but they only want to count their current operating expenses with no regard for future retiree benefits. That is laughable.

ColdNoMore 03-29-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1528028)
It is absurd to suggest that the USPS not be required to prefund future retirement benefits. They are a real cost to the taxpayers. I retired from the Federal Government 11 years ago and have already collected almost as much money in my pension as I did in salary during my entire career. No wonder people don't like unions. The postal union actually wants you to believe that the USPS pays for itself, but they only want to count their current operating expenses with no regard for future retiree benefits. That is laughable.

Really?

Given that even under the old CSRS, a person maxed out at 80% of 'high 3' at 40 years of service (a little earlier for certain classes)...please explain how your statement could be possible.

The Maximum CSRS Annuity

graciegirl 03-29-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rhood (Post 1528016)
Easy for you to say, you don’t have 900 mail boxes where you are.

That is true. Only 53 at our place. NO POOL.

Could this have been another tempest in a teapot?? Am I reading that it has been resolved? Could this be another crisis averted here in lower Paradise??

I can now continue thinking how wonderful this place is??

And thanking the Morse family?

Sail41 03-29-2018 04:08 PM

We spoke to our contract postal person today and he said they solved the problem late yesterday and no contract personnel are leaving. It's a 2 year contract and then will be renewed for 5 years. This was at the Rio Grande PO. Hope it's true. He's very attentive to his customers and would be missed.

ColdNoMore 03-29-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sail41 (Post 1528079)
We spoke to our contract postal person today and he said they solved the problem late yesterday and no contract personnel are leaving. It's a 2 year contract and then will be renewed for 5 years. This was at the Rio Grande PO. Hope it's true. He's very attentive to his customers and would be missed.

:cool:

OhioBuckeye 03-30-2018 05:29 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1526998)
The postal service is not in "business". They are wasting your tax dollars because Congress won't stop them.

Congress may not stop them because they're govt. ran & it's federal money that runs the P.O. Our money is what helps run the P.O. & the federal govt. collects the money.

retiredguy123 03-30-2018 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1528070)
Really?

Given that even under the old CSRS, a person maxed out at 80% of 'high 3' at 40 years of service (a little earlier for certain classes)...please explain how your statement could be possible.

The Maximum CSRS Annuity

It's true. So far, I have collected about 70 percent of my total career earnings in pension income. My income at retirement was about 12 times the salary I had when I started working, which is pretty typical for someone who went from a GS-7 to GS-14 over the years. I was under the old CSRS system for about 35 years.

Gpsma 03-30-2018 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1528073)
That is true. Only 53 at our place. NO POOL.

Could this have been another tempest in a teapot?? Am I reading that it has been resolved? Could this be another crisis averted here in lower Paradise??

I can now continue thinking how wonderful this place is??

And thanking the Morse family?


My love...did you really count the the mail boxes? And God Save the Morse family...they made this place for us.

redwitch 03-30-2018 07:20 PM

Not a tempest. A real issue. According to my postal contractor in Hemingway, six people will be out of work after tomorrow. The other 15 whose contracts are to expire shortly are in limbo for now. The rest are truly worried and have been given no indication what their fates are. This is neither right nor fair.

This has nothing to do with the Morses so far as I can tell. It was and is a USPS decision. As powerful as the Morses are, I doubt they have that much pull with this Federal agency to cause any changes.

Regardless, it will be a sad day for us if we lose our postal subcontractors. For they most part, they go above and beyond their duties. Furthermore, I really don’t want to go to Lady Lake for large packages.

Taltarzac725 03-30-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1528506)
Not a tempest. A real issue. According to my postal contractor in Hemingway, six people will be out of work after tomorrow. The other 15 whose contracts are to expire shortly are in limbo for now. The rest are truly worried and have been given no indication what their fates are. This is neither right nor fair.

This has nothing to do with the Morses so far as I can tell. It was and is a USPS decision. As powerful as the Morses are, I doubt they have that much pull with this Federal agency to cause any changes.

Regardless, it will be a sad day for us if we lose our postal subcontractors. For they most part, they go above and beyond their duties. Furthermore, I really don’t want to go to Lady Lake for large packages.

That Lady Lake PO can be extremely busy at certain times of the year as well as times of the day.

asianthree 03-31-2018 05:28 AM

Since we receive very little mail, and mostly junk, I venture up to the boxes once a week. Our packages come fedex, to our door.

However in this day and age of less face to face interactions, most know their postal person, who if you have a problem answer the door with a smile, and how can I help you. So far no word on if staff will change at our station.

graciegirl 03-31-2018 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1528501)
My love...did you really count the the mail boxes? And God Save the Morse family...they made this place for us.

No. I didn't count the mailboxes. Our village has met frequently AT THE POSTAL Station where we put up tables and have potlucks. We know each other. It is one of the smallest villages.

I still do not understand how this works. We are charged a fee at the beginning for post office key. I assume that offset the cost of the building of the air conditioned postal buildings that keep our medication from baking in the heat and are owned by the CDD????

I knew that the postal workers that delivered our mail worked for a private company. (Or thought I knew that)

Has the private company just negotiated a new contract? Has the Government postal union stuck a large foot down? WHAT IS the fly in this ointment that may cause workers to lose their jobs and some allowed then to take tests to work for the postal service?

I don't understand who is to blame and whether it is partially resolved. WHO KNOWS?


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