Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1866659)

What store do you go to? I want to avoid any store where I might be in the line for 15 minutes or more.

I believe the "evidence" of asymptomatic spread is the large number of cases with know known symptomatic contact. They had to contract it from somewhere and if it wasn't from a symptomatic contact then.....

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1866605)

I don't disagree, but many of us wonder how long to wait to get tested to see if the virus incubated in us. In other words, WHEN after exposure is a person contagious to others IF they do catch it.

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1866672)

You can wind up standing in line for the deli or seafood counter, or getting a sub made or picking up your prescription at the pharmacy. Lines at the check out usually go pretty quickly but there are times when there is a delay that is beyond the cashier's control (folks with 20+ coupons to use who also argue about a coupon that isn't scanning....).

If you go into a store there is no guarantee that you will not be standing within 6 feet of someone for 15 minutes or more. Most of the people who get out on a fairly regular basis know this is true.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1866688)

Actually, I *can* guarantee that I won't be standing in line within 6 feet of someone for 15 minutes or more. I have three methods that anyone can use:

1. Avoid lines. Continue going to the stores that I already frequent when I have never, even with Thanksgiving, been in any line for 15 minutes
2. Maintain a 6 foot separation. Politely ask anyone standing within 6 feet of me to give me some space
3. Remain fewer than 15 minutes. Leave any line I am in that is taking 15 minutes - I don't need a sub or even a cart of groceries that badly

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1866688)

Actually, I *can* guarantee that I won't be standing in line within 6 feet of someone for 15 minutes or more. I have three methods that anyone can use:

1. Avoid lines. Continue going to the stores that I already frequent when I have never, even with Thanksgiving, been in any line for 15 minutes
2. Maintain a 6 foot separation. Politely ask anyone standing within 6 feet of me to give me some space
3. Remain fewer than 15 minutes. Leave any line I am in that is taking 15 minutes - I don't need a sub or even a cart of groceries that badly

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1866693)

Slightly off my topic but in line with the above suggestions:

I always get in front of my cart. this allows me to control how close I choose not to get to the person in front of me and it allows me to control how close the person behind can get.
With a smile of course!

There are just too many who, for some reason, have to be 6 inches on one's back.

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1866645)

The CDC contradicts itself all the time. How can they say that children (K-12) are safer in school and sitting together in closed classrooms where they go home and hang around with their family members, yet, at the same time say that you should quarantine if you were within 6 feet of someone for 15 minutes or more (this could happen in a grocery store checkout line and you would never know about it). Unless we shut down EVERYTHING, including hospitals/doctors/dentists for 4 weeks or more, this virus is not going away.

There is not convincing evidence that I am aware of of asymptomatic spread which is probably why medical staff that tests positive but remains asymptomatic are actually required to come into work in many hospitals throughout the country.

Use caution and common sense.

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1866645)

The CDC contradicts itself all the time. How can they say that children (K-12) are safer in school and sitting together in closed classrooms where they go home and hang around with their family members, yet, at the same time say that you should quarantine if you were within 6 feet of someone for 15 minutes or more (this could happen in a grocery store checkout line and you would never know about it). Unless we shut down EVERYTHING, including hospitals/doctors/dentists for 4 weeks or more, this virus is not going away.

There is not convincing evidence that I am aware of of asymptomatic spread which is probably why medical staff that tests positive but remains asymptomatic are actually required to come into work in many hospitals throughout the country.

Use caution and common sense.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1866678)

Not trying to dispute anyone regarding the seriousness of the virus, but....... My daughter's close friend is a heart transplant recipient. She was infected with the virus but even though she had the symptoms, such as coughing, fever and hard breathing, she survived it with about as much effort as a winter cold. Two of my neighbors in their 80's caught it last Feb and one was hospitalized. Both survived. For every person that has died from the virus, I can give you examples of those that have survived it. Either you can be the glass half empty person or you can be the glass half full.....your choice. And yes, I have had two relatives that have died, supposedly COVIDy related. Both were in the hospital for other than COVID related treatment. One for a heart operation and the other for a kidney operation. One was in his mid 90's and the other near 70. They died in the hospital and were tested positive for COVID. You can be the judge of whether or not they died BECAUSE OF the virus or with it.

I encourage everyone to do what they deem is necessary to keep themselves safe. I would not attempt to suggest anyone be reckless. I plan to live my life as normal as I can under the circumstances. If I catch the COVID or even the Budweiser Flu, I will take responsibility for my own actions. If you think I am being dangerous to others, then fair warning--- stay away from me. Same thing your momma told you as a child, "stay away from that hot stove or you will get burned."
If you come onto a Villages forum asking for recommendations instead of talking to your doctor, I can only tell you that I am not a doctor but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. If you are on here searching for a roofer or landscaping company, then you have come to the right place.

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1866672)

You can wind up standing in line for the deli or seafood counter, or getting a sub made or picking up your prescription at the pharmacy. Lines at the check out usually go pretty quickly but there are times when there is a delay that is beyond the cashier's control (folks with 20+ coupons to use who also argue about a coupon that isn't scanning....).

If you go into a store there is no guarantee that you will not be standing within 6 feet of someone for 15 minutes or more. Most of the people who get out on a fairly regular basis know this is true.

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1866645)

The CDC contradicts itself all the time. How can they say that children (K-12) are safer in school and sitting together in closed classrooms where they go home and hang around with their family members, yet, at the same time say that you should quarantine if you were within 6 feet of someone for 15 minutes or more (this could happen in a grocery store checkout line and you would never know about it). Unless we shut down EVERYTHING, including hospitals/doctors/dentists for 4 weeks or more, this virus is not going away.

There is not convincing evidence that I am aware of of asymptomatic spread which is probably why medical staff that tests positive but remains asymptomatic are actually required to come into work in many hospitals throughout the country.

Use caution and common sense.