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roscoguy 05-17-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VinoGolf (Post 1766557)
Ridiculous logic.

So smokers who get cancer, drinkers who develop liver issues, unhealthy eaters who develop diabetes, people who don’t exercise that develop cardiovascular issues, etc, etc, shouldn’t be covered by their health insurance?

Hmmm, that might not be not such a bad idea. It is insurance after all and was never really intended to mean 'Oh no, look what I've done to myself on purpose! Somebody fix me - for free!!' I am being mostly sarcastic, but maybe there should be a co-pay for people that refuse to take any responsibility for their own health and well-being...

Heyitsrick 05-17-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Heyitsrick (Post 1766425)
You may want to read The Bill of Rights - the first 10 amendments to the Constitution. It's all about individual rights, vs. the power of government.


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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766521)
It has nothing to do with the situation at hand. The government (the state) has been LESS restrictive than the Villages has been, thus far. The Villages is not a government. It is a private entity, a property management company and property development company - a holding company for a myriad of other companies. They are owners of the property in question in this thread.

THEY have the "individual right" to choose how their property is used. THEY have the "individual right" to decree "no public entertainment for now" and THEY have the "individual right" to tell Gator's that they're breaking the rules.

The government isn't doing that. The owner of the property is doing that.

I'm not sure why you're making that comment to me. I was responding to a person who implied that the Constitution was really just about stating the powers of each branch of government, when in fact it's much more than that. It's clearly a document that spells out individual rights, and there's no dispute about that.

Now, as to your response, you seem to give "THEY" seemingly unlimited power over any business that rents on the property. If the contract between a business and TV provides the authority of TV to curtail music as such, then that's perfectly within the language of the agreed upon contract. A company that signs such a contract must abide by TV's decrees on that agreed upon language.

But that's where it ends. No property owners get to just make up rules on a whim that haven't been legally agreed to beforehand. Private property does not in any way confer that power. It's not a right.

Slapnut 05-17-2020 05:47 PM

Sometimes it's better to make your own decisions. People that make some decisions are not always right. Go with your gut feeling and do your homework before letting someone make decisions for you

Mleeja 05-17-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by big guy (Post 1766240)
I may be wrong but The Villages is not an incorporated city. We are owned by the developers as are the businesses. We knew that when we bought, we chose to buy anyway. Australia's population is almost the same as Florida. In May Australia has lost 9 people. Florida has lost 608. Australia's total death count is 98, Florida's is 1876. Something is wrong here and it's not social distancing.

Bad comparison. Australia’s land mass is much larger than Florida. People are already much more “social distanced”.

Mleeja 05-17-2020 06:00 PM

I am surprised no one has mentioned that two Country Clubs had an ad in the DS stating they were going to have live entertainment on their patios.

mneumann02 05-17-2020 06:05 PM

It Is Up To Others
 
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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1766047)
Even if that were the true, we’re adults and we can make decisions about where we wanna be and how close we want to sit to other people. Social distancing is a recommendation, it is not a law. It’s not up to someone else to decide for us what we should be doing? I don’t understand why more people don’t get that?

It is up to others to decide what we can and can not do in the interests of public health and safety- hence laws for seatbelts, speed limits, many restaurant rules to protect our health, and so on. The rules and directives coming from the pandemic are there to protect all of us. I would not care if you flaunted those rules, if you were the only one you were endangering. I just don't want someone else's reckless behaviour to transfer to me the coronavirus and threaten my health, and at my age, possibly kill me. For example, wearing facemasks in public does not protect you. It protects others if you have the virus by trapping much of your sneeze or cough.

EdFNJ 05-17-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1766816)
I am surprised no one has mentioned that two Country Clubs had an ad in the DS stating they were going to have live entertainment on their patios.

That advertisement means nothing (either way) except what their intent is. The ads are given to the papers well in advance of publication date. Last week the entire month of May Square's Entertainment schedule was in the paper. Do you see.hear any music on the squares? As always those ads are "subject to change."

EdFNJ 05-17-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 1766813)
Bad comparison. Australia’s land mass is much larger than Florida. People are already much more “social distanced”.

That too is a bad comparison as it isn't the number of square miles that matters it's the population density in the cities.

The top 4 cities by population in Australia are 4.5million, 4 million, 2.5 million and 2 million

Top 4 in Florida by population is 926K, 425K, 413K and 291K (all added together it's 1/2 of the single largest city in Australia.)

A city of 4.5 million is far more densely populated than the largest city in FL of 927,000 (Jacksonville).

mneumann02 05-17-2020 06:28 PM

Public Health Laws Are NOT Unconstitutional
 
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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1766296)
I get it just fine. It's called CONTROL. If anyone is worried about social distancing and getting COVID-19, they can just stay home and listen to the radio and dance naked in their own homes.

I don't understand how so many of you have given up your rights under the US Constitution .. inalienable rights ... and have traded liberty for perceive safety. The PRIMARY focus of the US Constitution is INDIVIDUAL rights; not collective authority. The Constitution exists to protect the INDIVIDUAL from the whims of the masses.

Tired of the ignorance so many display.

I don't understand unreasonable thinking such as this. There is a world-wide pandemic occurring and some people actually think establishing rules to try to control it is unconstitutional. Wow. Is it also unconstitutional for state health departments to have restaurant rules that protect us from food borne illnesses? I do agree the rules need to be more carefully thought out, that one size does not fit all, and we need to take careful steps to restore our economy.

queasy27 05-17-2020 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766229)
No one should be surprised that this happened. This is what happens when you can't play nicely. You get your toys taken away.

What are the odds that those blaming "tattletales" for ruining their enjoyment are the same folks who flout their deed restrictions and then take their anger out on the people who reported them rather than, you know, not break the rules in the first place?


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