[shelley77]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I think the great divide is facilitated by the fact that the people who are making the rules have no skin in the game. They are receiving full pay and benefits, while those who have to follow the rules are out of business and facing financial ruin.

Exactly. The one thing that is absolutely true is that We are most definitely NOT in this together.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Pray tell, who be the "Little Red Hen"?

A restaurant by that name chose to not serve a prominent member of the government, about two years ago.

My memory is still functioning, but that is about all.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by rrlavigne

Really? Then why can't we legally decide to use recreational drugs if we want? Why can't we legally go to a prostitute? Those are just two examples of activities that effect nobody but ourselves, but society has decided we could be arrested and even jailed if we engage in them. Burns my butt when people talk about individual rights, our "liberty" or our "freedom" when they really mean you have the right to do what you want as long as you follow the rules that "I agree with." The fact is, if you have the virus you can spread it. It's NOT about your individual rights, it's about how you may impact others. I want to get out, socialize and have fun just like you, but until there's a cure or vaccine we need to do it responsibly. Is that too much to ask?

Well stated. Sadly, your point will be missed by the ones that can't grasp the concept of co-operation or social responsibility and it will be ignored by those that can comprehend it but refuse because it may stifle their fun.
Be prepared for that last group to label you as "paranoid", "media controlled", "sheep" and more.
Remember, these were probably the kids who were told "don't run with scissors" but did it anyway. If they were lucky and didn't get hurt the lesson they thought they'd learned was "I'm smarter than everyone and no one can tell me what to do"
Protect yourself as best you can because, as you can see from of these posts, there are a lot of folks who care only about themselves.

[shelley77]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

I get it just fine. It's called CONTROL. If anyone is worried about social distancing and getting COVID-19, they can just stay home and listen to the radio and dance naked in their own homes.

I don't understand how so many of you have given up your rights under the US Constitution .. inalienable rights ... and have traded liberty for perceive safety. The PRIMARY focus of the US Constitution is INDIVIDUAL rights; not collective authority. The Constitution exists to protect the INDIVIDUAL from the whims of the masses.

Tired of the ignorance so many display.

How come the people who want everyone to stay home, have everyone lose their jobs and businesses so they can feel safe, how come they're not the selfish ones?

[VinoGolf]

Originally Posted by shelley77

How come the people who want everyone to stay home, have everyone lose their jobs and businesses so they can feel safe, how come they're not the selfish ones?

Excellent point. Someone posted a few days ago this very thing. To heck with all the delivery people, service people, etc. as long as the stay at homer’s get all of their needs taken care of.

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

This is why we have policy makers making the decisions. Left up to the individual, we could easily move in the wrong direction.

I don't get why some don't get that.

i don't get that comment. it's downright frightening for me to imagine just 'following' what 'policy-makers' say'. it has to do with personal responsibility & not just accepting whatever is told to us has been decided for the 'greater-good.' there's a big red flag that pops up when i hear those terms.

[brianherlihy]

let me be free/

[CarolSells]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Pray tell, who be the "Little Red Hen"?

Henny-Penny: The Sky is Falling!

My apologies to any little red hens. Henny-Penny was the chicken who ran around spreading panic because an acorn fell on her head in a children’s story book.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Also is "nothing is reliable" that means "some of it might be true." If we aren't able to tell which is truth and which is not - because nothing is reliable - it might want us to err on the side of caution. Not paranoia, not fear, not terror. Just caution.

So no - don't stay home with the doors locked to keep the Covid Bogeyman away. Instead, get out, wear a mask, keep your distance, wash your hands, don't touch your face.

And use common sense, like most people do. If wearing a mask for an hour makes you feel like you're too confined, then pull the mask away every 15 minutes for a few happy breaths of fresh air. Just make sure you're far enough away from everyone that if a sneeze suddenly explodes from your mouth, it won't have any chance of landing on anyone.

Well said. "Err on the side of caution", "better safe than sorry" are only a couple many sayings that apply during these uncertain times.
If you see someone with a mask at the store, it might be be me looking out for your health. If I see someone wearing a mask, I will (silently) thank you for looking out for mine.
Respect!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by shelley77

How come the people who want everyone to stay home, have everyone lose their jobs and businesses so they can feel safe, how come they're not the selfish ones?

Please stop saying that. All people who stay home, do not necessarily "want everyone to stay home". I stay home because there is a greater than one in ten risk of me dying if I contract Covid-19. I don't think Covid-19 is a hoax. I do worry GREATLY about the devastating effects on the economy of the U.S. and the world.

I wonder if it is waning now and will "roar back" in the fall. I do not think this virus is a political tool, or an exaggerated weaponized threat from a foreign power. I think it is a deadly virus to a lot of old people. I think it is causing a terrible repercussion to business and industry of all kinds and the very life of many by job shut down.

[remarks006]

Hey big spender , perhaps people were complaining that free loaders were parking their chairs in the middle of the sidewalk listening to music that was paid for by Gators ,for the enjoyment of PAYING CUSTOMERS.
2) maybe Gators decided the music didn’t bring in enough revenue to justify the music cost.
Your going to have to wait for the SQUARES, to open again, so you can listen to free music ,and perhaps not block a sidewalk

[kanoa1kale2]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

This is why we have policy makers making the decisions. Left up to the individual, we could easily move in the wrong direction.

I don't get why some don't get that.

It seems there were a few individuals that remember we are a free people and make our own decisions. Don't forget, Stalin in Russia was a policy maker and also had neighbors spying on neighbors. Don't be like that and we should never accept that here. Stalin killed 9 million people with his policies!

[huange@verizon.net]

I’m assuming that most of those on TOTV were alive and well in 1968-1969. That was when the Hong Kong flu hit. How many of you remember social distancing and self-isolating? Oh guess what also happened in 1969? Does Woodstock ring a bell?
According to the CDC, the estimated number of deaths from the HK flu was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older.
I don’t recall any uproar from my parents, neighbors, nor the senior population back then.

[donfey]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

Here’s a shout out to you pathetic paranoid busy bodies that can’t stand to see other people having a good time.
Earlier this week went down to Sumter landing to spend some time by the lake and saw that Gator’s had live music going. Moved my chair over there and had a nice time listening to the music and watching some folks even dance. All the tables were at least 6 feet apart, and folding chairs were scattered throughout but with nobody sitting really that close to each other. No one forced us to go there. We’re adults and we did it of our own free will. Went down Friday evening thinking I would put my chair out and listen to more music and enjoy the sunshine only to find out that The aforementioned busy bodies had reported Gator’s to the villages Subsequently the villages told them they could not do the outside music at this point in time? I don’t know by what authority The Villages can tell a private business what they can or can’t do. Outside drinking and dining has been okayed by the governor, I don’t remember there being a part of that order that said you can’t have live music while people are enjoying themselves? Can’t wait for some of the paranoid replies I’m going to get to this post!!! Bring it on!

In any sizable group of people, whatever their association, there is a number just WAITING to be offended - and they will NOT be denied. IMO, those are the ones who should stay locked up in their homes until all possibility of infection is eliminated. Live and let live.

[big guy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Apples and oranges, not a valid comparison.

Demographics. Population density. Climate. Travelers coming in from hot spots early on. All likely different. Just look at Miami-Dade vs. rural counties in Florida

Not necessarily, population density I would agree on but all the spring breakers in Miami didn't help. And if we hadn't been locked down, we probably would have had a tremendous outbreak here because of the visitors from all over, new York and New jersey included.