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meridian5850 04-01-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by andercat (Post 1737570)
I have been taking a morning walk each day since activities have stopped. Most people walk facing traffic. One couple with their dog was walking with traffic. As I approached them, I mentioned that walking against traffic was considered to be safer. They told me that their dog decided what side of the street to walk. Another couple with a dog was walking again with traffic. I didn't say anything to them. They volunteered that they knew they were walking on the wrong side of the road but walked where their dog led them. I thought people had higher IQ's than dogs. Evidently I was wrong.

So, the dog was walking its people. :icon_wink:

GoldenBoy 04-01-2020 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Group2100 (Post 1737423)
I have a question about pedestrians walking on the multi-modal paths. Specifically, in which direction should they walk - against vehicular traffic or in the same direction as vehicular traffic?

I ask the question because while watching the portion of the Golf Cart Safety Video on the VHA website, it shows pedestrians walking in both directions - one with pedestrians facing oncoming golf carts and the other shows a couple walking with their backs towards approaching vehicular traffic (see attached screen shot).

I realize that the ideal answer would be to walk within neighborhood streets or on pedestrian trails, but there is a large portion of the multi-modal path running along the turnpike with limited numbers of carts for now. However, there are a large number of bicycles along that portion of the multi-modal path. I would rather walk towards oncoming traffic so I can see the hazard rather than have approaching from behind.

Thanks in advance.

I walk 5.5 miles per day on the multi modals. I've been doing that for five years. Always walk against traffic. I have been brushed by more golf carts than I can count. The worst time is when snowbirds are around. They believe the multi modals are golf cart expressways and apparently many can't see past the windshields. NEVER let them approach from behind. I used to carry a 2 iron to swing at carts that approach too close. Now I just scream at the unsafe drivers.

Chatbrat 04-01-2020 08:24 AM

If they have lost their driving privileges, it also applies to golf carts--the exact term, is shall not operate any motorized vehicle

caljeff 04-01-2020 08:29 AM

From the Boy Scouts: Generally Facing traffic.

TandHSTAR@AOL.com 04-01-2020 08:34 AM

Always walk against traffic either on roadway or multi media road. That way you can see what is coming at you. Stay safe.

Bogie Shooter 04-01-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1737786)
I skipped first grade

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No, decided I wouldn't......

kendi 04-01-2020 08:44 AM

dogs are often trained to walk on one side of the person. My dog is trained to walk on my right side which makes it easier for her to step into the grass when needed. I have never walked her on multimodal paths until moving to TV so walking on the right side of the sidewalk was best for pedestrian flow. It’s also easier to move out of the way cause the dog is moving off the path and the person can stay on the edge. And it’s good because I have me between my dog and a passing dog which gives me more control in keeping her mind on the walk and not the dog. Having said that, when my path changes to include golf carts I do switch to the left side of the path with my dog still on my right. It’s not as convenient, but safer.

bp243 04-01-2020 08:49 AM

Grew up learning to walk facing traffic. That way you know what’s approaching and you can get out of the way if necessary. Seems important for you to be in charge and responsible for keeping yourself safe.

HMLRHT1 04-01-2020 09:49 AM

The correct way to walk on the streets or multi modal paths is for the walkers to always walk toward traffic. This way they can see the vehicles and if need be get out of the way. It also allows walkers and drivers to make eye contact. It’s very dangerous to have your back to traffic and not being able to see what’s coming toward you.

BRK1939 04-01-2020 10:23 AM

This thread sort of provides a clue as to why we as humans find it hard to agree on anything, even in a case of National emergency. I thought that the answer to this question was so blatantly obvious that it was kindergarten stuff but reading some of these responses it is equally obvious that I may be wrong !
As for dogs doing the deciding -- what planet did these folks come from ?
Enjoy this wonderful day folks,

LadyPenO 04-01-2020 10:31 AM

Walking toward oncoming traffic is safest for pedestrians. Gives you a chance to jump out of the way of an out of control driver with a medical issue which has happened several times here in TV.

John_W 04-01-2020 10:57 AM

For those who walk with your back to the traffic, don't forget to bring along your telephone.

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-conte...cbp2.jpg?w=620

Rosebud1949 04-01-2020 11:11 AM

Walk on the sidewalk if there is one, joggers too ...Dont make Carts on the roads swerve to avoid you. Walk against traffic on modal paths STEP ASIDE on wide curves, carts cannot see round corners. Many near misses.

Mumbles 04-01-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mills3186 (Post 1737508)
It's just like driving a car. Stay to the right. 95% of the people do this, it's dangerous to walk against the flow onto incoming pedestrian, bike and golf car traffic.

When I ride my bike, I go WITH the traffic. When I walk I go to the side of the street that FACES oncoming traffic. It's a lot easier to jump out of the way of a cart/ car/truck in front of you than to turn around just in time to see them hitting you from behind.

When there is only one path you can walk on, a multi modal is iffy at best.
Peace Out

Mumbles 04-01-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1737536)
We live in Osceola Hills and often drive down to Marsh Bend to walk the trail around Hogeye.

Along the part that goes along the MMP, we always walk facing the golf cart traffic.

The rest of the trail is for walkers, runners, and bikers only. They used to have these flimsy poles to show that carts were not supposed to be on these trails, but some of the inconsiderate cart riders would drive on them anyway. As a result, the management had to install some very substantial poles and large rocks to make it almost impossible for carts to go on these trails. Good!

See? this is an example of the Powers that Be interfering with out freedom. AND THAT'S WHAT SOMETIMES HAS TO BE DONE FOR OUR SAFETY!
Peace Out

Satjr35031 04-01-2020 02:34 PM

Always walk facing traffic Always ride your bike with traffic

Group2100 04-01-2020 02:55 PM

Thanks for the feedback
 
I want to thank all of you that replied to my question on the best direction for pedestrian traffic on multi-modal paths (MMP). I posed the question because my wife and I were enjoying a walk along the Hogeye Preserve multi-modal path late Tuesday morning. We started out from the Everglades Recreation Center and walked westbound to the spot where the new bridge will span the turnpike. It was a lovely walk and we exchanged pleasantries (from a safe distance) with many friendly Villagers. As we turned to walk back, a woman walking with her husband pointed to my wife and asked in a hostile tone, "Do you LIKE walking on the wrong side??"

My wife was taken aback and replied we were walking against motorized traffic. The woman bitterly replied, "That's not how we do it here! You don't know the law!" We kept walking back to our car. I am aware of the Florida laws in relation to pedestrian traffic but I wanted to check to be sure we were not in violation of any Villages rules or regulations.

Thanks for the feedback. :)

Velvet 04-01-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Group2100 (Post 1738131)
I want to thank all of you that replied to my question on the best direction for pedestrian traffic on multi-modal paths (MMP). I posed the question because my wife and I were enjoying a walk along the Hogeye Preserve multi-modal path late Tuesday morning. We started out from the Everglades Recreation Center and walked westbound to the spot where the new bridge will span the turnpike. It was a lovely walk and we exchanged pleasantries (from a safe distance) with many friendly Villagers. As we turned to walk back, a woman walking with her husband pointed to my wife and asked in a hostile tone, "Do you LIKE walking on the wrong side??"

My wife was taken aback and replied we were walking against motorized traffic. The woman bitterly replied, "That's not how we do it here! You don't know the law!" We kept walking back to our car. I am aware of the Florida laws in relation to pedestrian traffic but I wanted to check to be sure we were not in violation of any Villages rules or regulations.

Thanks for the feedback. :)

I think there are some psychotic individuals even in TV. I never try to reason or disagree with one. Not safe.

Bogie Shooter 04-01-2020 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1738139)
I think there are some psychotic individuals even in TV. I never try to reason or disagree with one. Not safe.

Read the previous posts,,,,,,some even post on here.

kcrazorbackfan 04-01-2020 04:41 PM

From an individual (me) that worked many accidents, always against traffic; they’ve got to have some kind of death wish to walk the same direction as traffic.

russtcc 04-01-2020 04:41 PM

You were totally right to walk facing motorized traffic. Shouldn't even be a question.

CFrance 04-01-2020 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by andercat (Post 1737570)
I have been taking a morning walk each day since activities have stopped. Most people walk facing traffic. One couple with their dog was walking with traffic. As I approached them, I mentioned that walking against traffic was considered to be safer. They told me that their dog decided what side of the street to walk. Another couple with a dog was walking again with traffic. I didn't say anything to them. They volunteered that they knew they were walking on the wrong side of the road but walked where their dog led them. I thought people had higher IQ's than dogs. Evidently I was wrong.

Some people never realized that they are the alpha over their dogs and needed to teach them that.


Your dog's on a leash; he will walk on whatever-the-heck side of the road you choose.

Topspinmo 04-01-2020 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1737611)
I have often been tempted to ask people who are walking in the same direction as traffic if they grew up in a city that had sidewalks everywhere. I did but I remember being taught at a very young age to always walk against traffic if you are in the country and there are no sidewalks.

Here is a real life incentive for you to walk against traffic. Just this afternoon, I was walking in the MMP lane on Rio Grande against traffic. Perfectly clear, beautiful day. I saw a golf cart about a quarter mile away coming towards me. I moved over all the way to the left against the curb even though there was no traffic on the road at all and the golf cart could easily go around me by going in the road. I was wearing red workout shorts and a lime green shirt and I am not a small guy. This guy just kept driving straight toward me. When he got about 20 yards from me I started clapping my hands and yelling at him, he kept coming so I jumped up onto the grass. Finally, when he was maybe 10 feet from me he finally noticed me and swerved into the street. If I had been walking with traffic, I wouldn't have seen this guy coming up from behind and would not have warned him. There is a good possibility he would have run me over.

You was in blind spot, either by glare or mirror or roof support/windshield. If the angle right he didn’t see you till you popped from behind the blind spot.

Starfire 04-01-2020 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud1949 (Post 1737969)
Walk on the sidewalk if there is one, joggers too ...Dont make Carts on the roads swerve to avoid you. Walk against traffic on modal paths STEP ASIDE on wide curves, carts cannot see round corners. Many near misses.

Unfortunately, I have been noting a number of incidents where a walker will step off the sidewalk and into the cart lane to maintain 6 feet from another walker going the other way. The most recent one did it about 10 cart lengths in front of me as I was going 20 MPH. Fortunately for them, I had anticipated this and knew there was no car traffic and was able to zip into the car lane. WALK in the grass, not the cart lane!!!!!

holmesperdue 04-02-2020 12:55 AM

If they want to live they better walk against the traffic. Think about 2 or 3 carts coming up behind them; the first can see the walkers and pulls out to pass them. How close is the cart behind the first cart - does he see them in time; maybe, maybe not - how about the third or fourth cart. That situation happened (a little differently, but still the same) on Sunset Blvd a couple of years ago - the lady lived a week in the hospital in pain!!!

Two Bills 04-02-2020 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1738335)
Some people never realized that they are the alpha over their dogs and needed to teach them that.


Your dog's on a leash; he will walk on whatever-the-heck side of the road you choose.

Absolutely.
We had dogs for years.
They were all an important part of the family, but they all new their place.
Bottom of the pecking order.
The cats were a bit different, and we and the dogs all understood our place was under them!

NavyVet 04-02-2020 02:03 PM

Horrified by the dog owners that allow their dog to walk wherever they want. Tragedy waiting to happen!
DOG TRAINING 101: Always teach your dog to walk on your LEFT side on a leash. There are reasons for that, including safety. You walk on the left against traffic (as per law) and that keeps you between the dog and the dangers of the road. Dogs are unpredictable and can suddenly pull to the side - right into oncoming traffic.
If everyone does it consistently, then a dog being walked in the opposite direction is safely on the OTHER side of the road with their human barrier. Many dogs are terrified of other dogs and this keeps a safe distance for all. Dogs need guidance; if people can't be bothered to teach their dog the basics, they shouldn't be dog owners.
A pet peeve: I hate those long flexileads. Dogs should be walked on 4 - 6 feet leashes next to your LEFT side. People let their dogs run across streets to "greet" us without reining them in and the next thing you know you have a confrontation with 2 upset snarling dogs. NOT COOL!!! Also, walking is for exercise. My dogs relieve themselves in their yard before their walkies or wait until they get back to THEIR own yard. They walk in the street and we do not let them onto other people's lawns. It's common sense and really quite simple.

furbish 04-02-2020 04:33 PM

Reminds me of a quote years ago from Mayberry, NC, Deputy Sheriff Barney Fife: "Walk on the left after dark, or you'll wind up playin' a harp".


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