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graciegirl 05-02-2013 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rc Moser (Post 669897)
OMG I said something negitive about the Villages.................... They can't be design flaw>>>>>>> In heavnly paradise!!! especially in the well to do areas. :bowdown::bowdown:

I think that I put my response about my mom (actually my grandmother who raised me) telling me to stay out of people's yards in your post and it may have seemed like I disagree with you but I don't.

I think that there are lots of ways that the streets could have been layed out differently and probably the rec centers could have had better access.

I think sidewalks everywhere would have improved this place too And sidewalks between lots at times leading to rec centers and all landscaped would have helped. Maybe, maybe not, I am not an urban design expert.

I didn't really MIND that people cut through. It is when they cut through and let their dogs poop and didn't clean it up. And this mostly happened when we were snowbirds and away and we paid extra for the lot to back on Odell. I don't understand about the well to do areas. All areas have about the same design of streets meandering around, don't they?

senior citizen 05-02-2013 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 669924)
I think that I put my response about my mom telling me to stay out of people's yards in your post and it may have seemed like I disagree with you but I don't.

I think that there are lots of ways that the streets could have been layed out differently and probably the rec centers could have had better access.

I think sidewalks everywhere would have improved this place too And sidewalks between lots at times leading to rec centers and all landscaped would have helped. Maybe, maybe not, I am not an urban design expert.

I didn't really MIND that people cut through. It is when they cut through and let their dogs poop and didn't clean it up. And this mostly happened when we were snowbirds and away and we paid extra for the lot to back on Odell. I don't understand about the well to do areas. All areas have about the same design of streets meandering around, don't they?

This comment doesn't relate to cutting through yards in The Villages , however, when we were younger in this neighborhood in Vermont and all of the trees, shrubbery and other landscaping hadn't matured enough to create a "boundary" between one acre and half an acre lots (properties), it was our pet peeve when not only did people cut across our back yard, but actually SIT DOWN WITH THEIR KIDS and have a snack in our back yard.

Everyone, back then......cut through everyone's property to get to the next street.....or to wherever they were going.

Years later, when we put our inground pool in......and fenced all around.........the young moms would hang over our fence and strike up a conversation, with their little ones drooling to dive into the pool..........i guess it's done all over.

Now, fences, and such prevent that......shrubbery, etc.
Fences make for good neighbors........

We still have the dog owners who think our front lawn is their dog's potty, even with our dog poop sign down by the mailbox on the road.

However, in full explanation..........this had all been apple orchards and people were used to walking their dogs, etc. and taking hikes up the hills , etc.........prior to 1970 when the new homes began going in........

Our own kids, as they grew from babies to school age, along with their friends.........all knew which properties to cut through as "short cuts" to get down into town to the library or the movie theatre, etc........they called it "The pine trail"......but some of it was through folks' backyards...

So, we've been on both sides of the situation.......and there are still wide open trails up here which border some newer homes....but are still woods and edges of farmland.......and people do walk on it.

OnTrack 05-02-2013 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 669078)
I hate to ruin all the drama, but have you ever thought about just being honest?

The next time it happens go out and say "Stop cutting through my yard, you're making me MENTAL, please Knock it off."

That gets my vote. :thumbup:

I might add....."MORE MENTAL. I don't want to go back to jail.". :D

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Parker 05-02-2013 05:22 AM

Maybe you could hire one of those sign twirlers they have out front of businesses.

OnTrack 05-02-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Parker (Post 669938)
Maybe you could hire one of those sign twirlers they have out front of businesses.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

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JourneyOfLife 05-02-2013 06:47 AM

Do you have any form of video or "still picture" security system outside the home?

What are the TV rules regarding plants in the front yard.... say a row of knockout rose bushes along the front?

asianthree 05-02-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JourneyOfLife (Post 669977)
Do you have any form of video or "still picture" security system outside the home?

What are the TV rules regarding plants in the front yard.... say a row of knockout rose bushes along the front?

Then you could post the picture of cutting in the yard:pepper2:

krausaj 05-02-2013 08:30 AM

Thank you all for your points of view and suggestions. Instead of believing that the person/muggin will "get it" when I say that my dog is barking at you because he is protecting his house. Or asking, did you lose something on my lawn? I will directly ask the person not to cut through. That should do it, I hope!

njbchbum 05-02-2013 09:02 AM

hope you'll let us know how that works out...if not too well received, feel free to mention that the girl's posse might be called in to assist with the pest removal problem! ;)

Bogie Shooter 05-02-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JourneyOfLife (Post 669977)
Do you have any form of video or "still picture" security system outside the home?

What are the TV rules regarding plants in the front yard.... say a row of knockout rose bushes along the front?

No rules on planting rose bushes.

DonH57 05-02-2013 09:31 AM

If you need to get a picture of the person caught in the act go to Dick's or another sporting goods store and buy one of those cameras deer hunters use which are motion activated they mount to a tree or bushes unless it's an area where cars or carts would set it off.

gocubsgo 05-02-2013 10:04 AM

How about a motion activated dog bark? They sell those on Amazon too. BIG dog bark...put it on a tree or a bush. Grab a lawn chair, a cold drink and laugh till you pee !

DonH57 05-02-2013 10:14 AM

LOL, Now, that's a good one...............

TrudyM 05-02-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gocubsgo (Post 670119)
How about a motion activated dog bark? They sell those on Amazon too. BIG dog bark...put it on a tree or a bush. Grab a lawn chair, a cold drink and laugh till you pee !

love it... A motion detector can be wired to anything. I vote for a recording yelling out what you want to say followed by a bark or growl.

How about " Barking" (Loud Voice) "Its a trespasser Killer sic him boy." (followed by) 'growl" "bark"

Or a voice that says "Electric fence controlled attack dog on property do not enter"

:clap2:

BobnBev 05-02-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 670240)
love it... A motion detector can be wired to anything. I vote for a recording yelling out what you want to say followed by a bark or growl.

How about " Barking" (Loud Voice) "Its a trespasser Killer sic him boy." (followed by) 'growl" "bark"

Or a voice that says "Electric fence controlled attack dog on property do not enter"

:clap2:

My opinion is worth what it costs that and $3.75 will get you a cut of coffee

I'd rather have a "CUP" of coffee.:evil6:

skyguy79 05-02-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 670330)
My opinion is worth what it costs that and $3.75 will get you a cut of coffee

I'd rather have a "CUP" of coffee.:evil6:

Your wish is my command...

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TrudyM 05-02-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 670330)
My opinion is worth what it costs that and $3.75 will get you a cut of coffee

I'd rather have a "CUP" of coffee.:evil6:

Well EXCUSE MEEEE....I'll shut up now. Just trying to be funny and failing apparently

JB in TV 05-02-2013 07:02 PM

I think BobnBev was refering to a typo in your signature line...cut=cup? I think you took the comment wrong. sorry... relax it is all good natured

TrudyM 05-02-2013 07:10 PM

Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by JB in TV (Post 670397)
I think BobnBev was refering to a typo in your signature line...cut=cup? I think you took the comment wrong. sorry... relax it is all good natured

Thanks I have severe dyslexia and I don't notice typos

CFrance 05-02-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 670376)
Well EXCUSE MEEEE....I'll shut up now. Just trying to be funny and failing apparently

I thought it was funny, Trudy.:pepper2:

Roaddog53 05-02-2013 07:28 PM

Ya know...as we sit here tonight once again we have people that walk along the sidewalk adjacent to our property, and just decide to walk up in our yard and look in our birdcage to see what is in it. It happens AT LEAST once every other day. Sometimes they do it with us out there and sometimes not. We would ask can we we help you and they say they are curious if there is a pool and other equipment. One even asked if we would sell our patio furniture. We just shake our heads and attribute it again tothe boldness of these people. So be aware you are not the only one that has people in your yard. However, there is NO shortcut here, just nosy busybodies wanting to look and feel it is their right to do so. LOL

Bucco 05-02-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Roaddog53 (Post 670406)
Ya know...as we sit here tonight once again we have people that walk along the sidewalk adjacent to our property, and just decide to walk up in our yard and look in our birdcage to see what is in it. It happens AT LEAST once every other day. Sometimes they do it with us out there and sometimes not. We would ask can we we help you and they say they are curious if there is a pool and other equipment. One even asked if we would sell our patio furniture. We just shake our heads and attribute it again tothe boldness of these people. So be aware you are not the only one that has people in your yard. However, there is NO shortcut here, just nosy busybodies wanting to look and feel it is their right to do so. LOL

You know, as I sit here and read this posting and the thread itself, I have to comment.

The Villages has changed so very much; we have been here since 2000; lived in a number of Villages' bought and sold a number of homes. I worked for The Villages and recall the day when we were called together for the announcement of the purchase of the land south of 466, which as long time residents know, was NOTHING.

One BIG THING that has changed is the manners of those moving here and those who visit. It just seems as if The Villages is not considered someone's HOME any longer....just a spot to visit for a bit, whether it be 5/6 months or a week or so. People will do what ROADDOG has described, turn around in our driveway, and in general disrespect the fact that this is our home. While the amenities are great, this place is HOME for us, not a place to get drunk, play golf, etc.

Perhaps it is just me, but folks sure seemed to have more manners and respect a few years ago. Maybe it is my age, but when I compare the lack of respect and lack of manners that I see here today, I worry a lot about the direction of everything.

Sorry...had to comment and if I offended anyone, I apologize. Just saying how I see it as they say !

BobnBev 05-02-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 670400)
Thanks I have severe dyslexia and I don't notice typos

Trudy, I was just havin fun with you. Sorry you took it the wrong way.:shrug:

BobnBev 05-02-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 670419)
You know, as I sit here and read this posting and the thread itself, I have to comment.

The Villages has changed so very much; we have been here since 2000; lived in a number of Villages' bought and sold a number of homes. I worked for The Villages and recall the day when we were called together for the announcement of the purchase of the land south of 466, which as long time residents know, was NOTHING.

One BIG THING that has changed is the manners of those moving here and those who visit. It just seems as if The Villages is not considered someone's HOME any longer....just a spot to visit for a bit, whether it be 5/6 months or a week or so. People will do what ROADDOG has described, turn around in our driveway, and in general disrespect the fact that this is our home. While the amenities are great, this place is HOME for us, not a place to get drunk, play golf, etc.

Perhaps it is just me, but folks sure seemed to have more manners and respect a few years ago. Maybe it is my age, but when I compare the lack of respect and lack of manners that I see here today, I worry a lot about the direction of everything.

Sorry...had to comment and if I offended anyone, I apologize. Just saying how I see it as they say !

:agree::agree::agree:

OnTrack 05-02-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Roaddog53 (Post 670406)
Ya know...as we sit here tonight once again we have people that walk along the sidewalk adjacent to our property, and just decide to walk up in our yard and look in our birdcage to see what is in it. It happens AT LEAST once every other day. Sometimes they do it with us out there and sometimes not. We would ask can we we help you and they say they are curious if there is a pool and other equipment. One even asked if we would sell our patio furniture. We just shake our heads and attribute it again tothe boldness of these people. So be aware you are not the only one that has people in your yard. However, there is NO shortcut here, just nosy busybodies wanting to look and feel it is their right to do so. LOL

That's beyond rude. :doh:

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asianthree 05-02-2013 08:56 PM

OP i have a five foot long black snake that lives nearby you can come by and let it play in your yard for awhile to be a watch snake

buggyone 05-02-2013 08:56 PM

"as we sit here tonight once again we have people that walk along the sidewalk adjacent to our property, and just decide to walk up in our yard and look in our birdcage to see what is in it. It happens AT LEAST once every other day. Sometimes they do it with us out there and sometimes not. We would ask can we we help you and they say they are curious if there is a pool and other equipment. One even asked if we would sell our patio furniture."

Sounds to me as if you have a very nice looking birdcage. However, it is rude of people to be walking in your yard and looking in.

You did have some input on this, though, as you decided where to purchase your house and you decided next to a sidewalk.

Still, I agree with you it is extremely rude.

Bucco is also right when he says that it looks as though manners of full-time, seasonal, and renters have changed over the years. I do not consider it disrespecting my space if someone turns around in my driveway, but sure would if they looked in my windows or crossed my yard.

TrudyM 05-02-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 670423)
Trudy, I was just havin fun with you. Sorry you took it the wrong way.:shrug:

Sorry I am more than a little jumpy lately. I come on here as you guys for the most part are very witty. And it lightens my mood. I try to join in but I fall short as I am neither clever or witty.

Roaddog53 05-02-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 670459)
"as we sit here tonight once again we have people that walk along the sidewalk adjacent to our property, and just decide to walk up in our yard and look in our birdcage to see what is in it. It happens AT LEAST once every other day. Sometimes they do it with us out there and sometimes not. We would ask can we we help you and they say they are curious if there is a pool and other equipment. One even asked if we would sell our patio furniture."

Sounds to me as if you have a very nice looking birdcage. However, it is rude of people to be walking in your yard and looking in.

You did have some input on this, though, as you decided where to purchase your house and you decided next to a sidewalk.

Still, I agree with you it is extremely rude.

Bucco is also right when he says that it looks as though manners of full-time, seasonal, and renters have changed over the years. I do not consider it disrespecting my space if someone turns around in my driveway, but sure would if they looked in my windows or crossed my yard.

Very true we had input on where we live, but so did the OP as they walk through their yard/s, so do those on golf courses as they get their balls or hit them in the yard, sidewalk lots, end driveways in villas as turnarounds, corner lots where dogs go, and on and on. It STILL does not make it right and is extremely rude. But than again, I attribute it to the few that decide they are entitled to do so, and their manners. It is just a part of here. I have been all over this country in my travels and still have not found it as prevalent as here. AND.. Yes I like it here and the few won't ruin it for the many. Just grin and bear it. Life goes on. But, for fun, we still have the game we play sometimes for a day on how many rude, self-centered acts can be performed here. :) We should start a thread on here and see who comes up with the most. lol

CFrance 05-02-2013 09:47 PM

I think it's kind of over the top to blame the rudeness on people living south of 466, as a poster five or so pages back suggested. I've been stewing on that awhile and decided to respond. How can one make a blanket statement like that without some kind of statistics?

Roaddog53 05-02-2013 09:49 PM

:agree:
Although it is humorous, and sometimes down right astonishing what people do, a first in many cases that we have seen, the positives and good people definitely outweigh those. When you see it, just smile, they don't know what you are up to or thinking than :) We are getting used to it though and THAT is scary!
That is why when it sounds like complaining, it is more a sanity check asking or informing others what just happened and seeing if it is us or...

BobnBev 05-03-2013 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 670468)
Sorry I am more than a little jumpy lately. I come on here as you guys for the most part are very witty. And it lightens my mood. I try to join in but I fall short as I am neither clever or witty.

Trudy, listen to me-----------

You are just as clever and witty as most people on here. Stop beating
yourself up.

Please continue to join in whenever you feel like it. I enjoy your posts.

I especially enjoy the picture in your signature. I feel like that sometimes
also.:D:D

Parker 05-03-2013 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TrudyM (Post 670468)
Sorry I am more than a little jumpy lately. I come on here as you guys for the most part are very witty. And it lightens my mood. I try to join in but I fall short as I am neither clever or witty.

Hey Trudy, that statement WAS clever and witty!

Madelaine Amee 05-03-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 670419)
You know, as I sit here and read this posting and the thread itself, I have to comment.

The Villages has changed so very much; we have been here since 2000; lived in a number of Villages' bought and sold a number of homes. I worked for The Villages and recall the day when we were called together for the announcement of the purchase of the land south of 466, which as long time residents know, was NOTHING.

One BIG THING that has changed is the manners of those moving here and those who visit. It just seems as if The Villages is not considered someone's HOME any longer....just a spot to visit for a bit, whether it be 5/6 months or a week or so. People will do what ROADDOG has described, turn around in our driveway, and in general disrespect the fact that this is our home. While the amenities are great, this place is HOME for us, not a place to get drunk, play golf, etc.

Perhaps it is just me, but folks sure seemed to have more manners and respect a few years ago. Maybe it is my age, but when I compare the lack of respect and lack of manners that I see here today, I worry a lot about the direction of everything.

Sorry...had to comment and if I offended anyone, I apologize. Just saying how I see it as they say !

Agree ............ and I just thought it was me getting nastier with age!

notlongnow 05-03-2013 09:33 AM

First of all I don't live there, YET! But after reading the whole thread I am going to be the the one that does not get it. I lived on a very busy corner in my town for about 2 1/2 decades and had people walk across the corner of my yard everyday. In all that time I had no damage and in some cases got a chance to meet someone in my neighborhood that I otherwise would not know.
In all the responses the one that was the most sane was,

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I hate to ruin all the drama, but have you ever thought about just being honest?

The next time it happens go out and say "Stop cutting through my yard, you're making me MENTAL, please Knock it off."
Posted by Patty55.

I also have my office on an acre that I have many people walk across everyday and still no damage nor do I feel the need to confront them or detour them. It is just someone on their way to somewhere and but a moment in my life.

I would draw the line at looking into any space in my house or private areas, that is a different subject altoghether and does not sound like the case here.
As far as the responses, I know that some of them were tongue in cheek but some were very serious and sounded like they were solutions that were in use in TV.
I am not one to cut accross someone yard but I find it hard to see much harm in it if no damage is done, no poo is left and nobody is looking into a birdcage, that one was weird!
I hope that when I live there that my neighbors are not employing trip wires, Punji stakes, barracades or calling the sherrif. Sounds like over thinking the problem to me.

To me it seems like a chance to meet someone new and if that does not work out then do like Patty55 says, tell them to quit it because you can't get over it for some reason.

The lawn maintenance people probably do more damage than someone walking accross your yard and you pay them!

I don't think that someone walking accross your corner is an assault on you but just a short cut.
I have walked around TV several times and have never felt the need for a short cut. However, where my dad lives I could see me walking down between someones house to talk to a neighbor rather than getting in my cart and driving to the next road over and then walking back to them behind their house, seems silly.

I would end with maybe this is a learning moment for those in the future. If something like this gets under your skin so much then a corner lot may not be for you.

EB:shrug:

graciegirl 05-03-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by notlongnow (Post 670688)
First of all I don't live there, YET! But after reading the whole thread I am going to be the the one that does not get it. I lived on a very busy corner in my town for about 2 1/2 decades and had people walk across the corner of my yard everyday. In all that time I had no damage and in some cases got a chance to meet someone in my neighborhood that I otherwise would not know.
In all the responses the one that was the most sane was,



Posted by Patty55.

I also have my office on an acre that I have many people walk across everyday and still no damage nor do I feel the need to confront them or detour them. It is just someone on their way to somewhere and but a moment in my life.

I would draw the line at looking into any space in my house or private areas, that is a different subject altoghether and does not sound like the case here.
As far as the responses, I know that some of them were tongue in cheek but some were very serious and sounded like they were solutions that were in use in TV.
I am not one to cut accross someone yard but I find it hard to see much harm in it if no damage is done, no poo is left and nobody is looking into a birdcage, that one was weird!
I hope that when I live there that my neighbors are not employing trip wires, Punji stakes, barracades or calling the sherrif. Sounds like over thinking the problem to me.

To me it seems like a chance to meet someone new and if that does not work out then do like Patty55 says, tell them to quit it because you can't get over it for some reason.

The lawn maintenance people probably do more damage than someone walking accross your yard and you pay them!

I don't think that someone walking accross your corner is an assault on you but just a short cut.
I have walked around TV several times and have never felt the need for a short cut. However, where my dad lives I could see me walking down between someones house to talk to a neighbor rather than getting in my cart and driving to the next road over and then walking back to them behind their house, seems silly.

I would end with maybe this is a learning moment for those in the future. If something like this gets under your skin so much then a corner lot may not be for you.

EB:shrug:

You are such a reasonable person. I so agree with what you said. I am from Ohio and people are never looked at strangely for cutting across your yard. It doesn't harm the grass and we knew the folks around us.

I think we bring some attitudes with us from the places that we grew up in. They are neither right nor wrong, just the way we were taught and the kind of behavior we watched that was either accepted or unaccepted.

Coming up an peering in your lanai isn't among the things that I am used to and cutting back plants that are not yours isn't nice either. But those are things I was taught. I remember when our preschooler picked the green tomatoes she could reach through the fence and out of the yard of our neighbor next door. I swear I was standing there talking to the neighbor at the time. She got a very stern time out and a voice raised..."WE DON'T DO THAT!" That isn't your stuff! And maybe one love tap on the bottom.

But those are ideas and values that may differ from family to family and area to area.

I don't understand why people would continue to cut through after they are politely asked..."May I help you?". Or told "I just planted some flowers right there" or some other diplomatic fib.

I just don't understand.

I would be so embarassed if someone said that to me. "A house doesn't have to fall on you" as my mom, (my sainted grandmother) would say.

My sermon for the day. ;)

notlongnow 05-03-2013 09:52 AM

What graciegirl said..... I agree.

My point boiled down to it's essence is, "Don't sweat the small stuff" or maybe, "Life is too short"
When ever I am in TV I am never in such a hurry to need a short cut and I hope that does not change when I live there.

Thanks graciegirl,
EB

Polar Bear 05-03-2013 10:47 AM

I'm too lazy to read 7 pages of the posts to catch up...heheh. So...

Are we talking about somebody just cutting the corner a bit on a corner lot? Or are we talking about somebody walking though property at mid-block?

Bogie Shooter 05-03-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 670712)
I'm too lazy to read 7 pages of the posts to catch up...heheh. So...

Are we talking about somebody just cutting the corner a bit on a corner lot? Or are we talking about somebody walking though property at mid-block?

Are you asking me to read all 7 pages?:shrug:

Tweety Bird 05-03-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 669066)
When we lived in Hadley a few people would cut through our side yard to get to Odell Pool. OP must live on Havana or Ambrosia.

It was just a few and it didn't harm anything.

What did bother us is when someone trimmed back two bushes that screened us from the shuffleboard court on Odells property so they could cut through easier.

Trimming of bushes? Now THAT'S rude


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