Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1819483)

If you do go to court, I hope you're clearer in your presentation. I can't even figure out which side of the case you're arguing. :D

Originally Posted by Graspher (Post 1819431)

Read carefully....”white light visible from a distance of at least 500 feet...”

My 2 white blinky lights are visible from 500 feet or farther. I’m in compliance with that.

They do not illuminate like a car’s headlight. I will not see someone 20 feet ahead of me in the darkness - but I will be seen from 500 feet plus.

Being visible and illuminating a path are two different concepts. Think match versus flashlight.

Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1819449)

Try:
On your right!
Coming behind you!
YO! WATCH YOUR LEFT.!
coming through!
Watch you backs!

Or Wear a whistle around you neck

Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 1819437)

When I posted this statute I was certain the forum regulars would post comments like yours. It would not matter in a civil case, you would be negligent. I could easily get a statement from the winky light manufacturer that it was not intended to illuminate your path.

Let me be blunt: Your problem of not seeing people needs to be addressed by YOU.

Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 1819502)

That is useful.

What about you do you think is the guy who does not illuminate his path, operating at a greater speed than walkers, correct in blaming the walkers for not making themselves visible enough to satisfy his needs? Or do you side with me the the biker needs to get adequate safety equipment to operate his bicycle in the conditions (darkness) that he choses?

Is this biker a potential victim of careless walkers?

Originally Posted by Graspher (Post 1819431)

Read carefully....”white light visible from a distance of at least 500 feet...”

My 2 white blinky lights are visible from 500 feet or farther. I’m in compliance with that.

They do not illuminate like a car’s headlight. I will not see someone 20 feet ahead of me in the darkness - but I will be seen from 500 feet plus.

Being visible and illuminating a path are two different concepts. Think match versus flashlight.

Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1819449)

Try:
On your right!
Coming behind you!
YO! WATCH YOUR LEFT.!
coming through!
Watch you backs!

Or Wear a whistle around you neck

Originally Posted by Graspher (Post 1819343)

For the active folks who are walking and jogging in the early morning (read that as in the dark) - for gosh sakes - carry a flashlight or wear some form of lighting gadget or at least put on a reflective vest.

If one is walking in the dark while wearing dark clothing - I as a bicyclist can not see you. I don't have a 12 volt headlight on my bike revealing dark objects 150 feet in front of me.

As part of my 20 mile bike loop I travel along CHURCHILL DOWNS between 5 and 6 a.m. There are street lights and ambient light along that road but there are also MANY pockets of absolute pure DARKNESS.

Over this past weekend I encountered 3 individuals walking along the MMP who perfectly blended in with the darkness.

I'm traveling along at 12 mph with white blinky lights on the front of my bike and a red blinky on the rear. My white lights do not illuminate anything - they are eye catchers for others to see me.

I'm coming up from behind - you don't see my lights and my bike is quiet - you are camouflaged in the darkness - I may or may not be able to see you.

Don't chance an unwelcomed intersection between you and me.

If you walk, jog, rollerblade, skate or longboard in the dark - make sure you can be seen by those in front and in back of you.

The majority of folks I encounter in the early a.m. are highly visible - thanks to all who are.

For those who aren't - use a smidge of common sense and light yourself up. It's about safety - be safe!