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Taltarzac725 07-08-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Timeweaver1 (Post 2233232)
The LSL movie theater is not open in the evenings so I doubt old movies would even cover the cost when everyone that can stream the same old movie would watch it at their convenience in their favorite chair.

I believe the Old Mill Playhouse shows movies starting around 7:30 PM. Some of the recent movies are a good 2 and a half hours long.

This is off of movie times today for the Old Mill Playhouse.

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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
2:50pm
6:15pm
Joy Ride
1:05pm
3:20pm
5:35pm
7:50pm
Elemental
1:30pm
4:05pm
6:45pm
Sound of Freedom
1:45pm
4:40pm
7:40pm
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
1:35pm
4:35pm
7:40pm
Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken
12:50pm
3:00pm
5:15pm
7:30pm
No Hard Feelings
2:00pm
4:30pm
7:00pm
About My Father
3:00pm
7:40pm
It Ain't Over
12:40pm
5:15pm

justjim 07-08-2023 11:55 AM

From what I observed at Lake Sumter Landing, the concession has to be profitable. Maybe eight screens is two many - two or four might make more sense. Turn the rest of the Barnstorm (with a separate entrance) into a nightclub with drinks and dancing that opens at nine and closes at midnight. Just a thought.

Taltarzac725 07-08-2023 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2233239)
From what I observed at Lake Sumter Landing, the concession has to be profitable. Maybe eight screens is two many - two or four might make more sense. Turn the rest of the Barnstorm (with a separate entrance) into a nightclub with drinks and dancing that opens at nine and closes at midnight. Just a thought.

How much money do the developers need? The right thing to do is to keep at least two movie theaters open for those generations who grew up going to the movies.

Why does this keep going back to whether the movie theaters are making money? It is not even relevant to the discussion.

From the petition--

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By reopening Barnstorm Theater as an additional venue for public shows in Brownwood, we can ensure that all residents have equal opportunities for artistic engagement and enjoyment. This will not only enhance our quality of life but also contribute positively towards building a stronger sense of community identity.

We urge decision-makers at both local government levels and theater management teams alike to consider this petition seriously. By reopening Barnstorm Theater promptly while adhering strictly to health guidelines recommended by reputable sources such as CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), we can strike a balance between public safety and the need for accessible cultural experiences.

Bogie Shooter 07-08-2023 12:12 PM

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The villages is a unique entity and I love learning more about it every day. I would really love to hear from someone in the know![/QUOTE]

Good luck finding someone in the know......that will share.
To help you on your journey seeking knowledge, some sites with a lot of information-
Village Community Development Districts (districtgov.org)
POA of The Villages | Property Owners Association of the Villages (poa4us.org)
VHA | The Villages Homeowners Advocates (thevha.net)

Goldwingnut 07-08-2023 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2233241)
How much money do the developers need? The right thing to do is to keep at least two movie theaters open for those generations who grew up going to the movies.

Why does this keep going back to whether the movie theaters are making money? It is not even relevant to the discussion.

From the petition--

WOW! You really do have no clue how businesses work. It is and always has been about the money. That's why people take the risks they do in business, to make money. From just this post it's obvious that you have never owned a business or were responsible for a P&L sheet for a business. So, making a profit for any business not only is relevant to the discussion, but it is also the ONLY THING relevant to the discussion. As a current small business owner and past Project Manager for multi-million-dollar construction projects where I was held accountable for the P&L of the projects, I can tell you from firsthand experience you watch every penny spent and every dollar in costs saved, or you die.

As for your first question, a) it's none of your business b) the question is irrelevant as they are the ones at risk not you and c) since you opened this door by asking, how much money do you need? Since you want to pass judgement on their tax return perhaps it's time the court of public opinion passes judgement on how much wealth you have amassed in your lifetime and should determine how to relieve you of some of it, just as you stand in judgement of relieving the developer of theirs.

I'm neither for nor against the developer in their decisions, they have to do what they feel is best for themselves, just as I must make decisions for my company. Sometimes this means making investments and sacrifices for the long-term benefit, sometimes it means making hard or unpopular decisions, in either case the long-term viability of the business is the driving motive.

Keefelane66 07-08-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2233241)
How much money do the developers need? The right thing to do is to keep at least two movie theaters open for those generations who grew up going to the movies.

Why does this keep going back to whether the movie theaters are making money? It is not even relevant to the discussion.

From the petition--

Isn’t it great to spend other people’s money.

Taltarzac725 07-08-2023 01:10 PM

The Villages is the business. The movie theaters are a selling point made by that business to get people to buy homes or stay here in the Villages.

A good deal of our neighbors have moved or are in the process of moving out of the Villages. Their main reason for moving is to help family members.

Again. READ the Petition.

If I move out of the Villages, the lying about the movie theaters by the developers is one of strongest reasons I would move as well as the heavy cyber bullying I have encountered over the years on many platforms by "Villagers".

I was a manager of a very small food service in the Reno and Washoe Valley area. Money was an important issue for the owners of this small business. I earned two BAs during the rest of the year from the U of Nevada, Reno.

What drew the people to the Washoe Valley food service was the large swimming pool. What drew them to the ski lodge was the ski training program and the skiing. What drew them to the softball diamond was the softball being played by many amateur teams. I was not a manager at the ski lodge food service as I had left for law school in 1982 for the BYU Law School but did not fit in there so came back. Got a MA in Librarianship at the U of Denver. Worked my way through library school. Then was in an entry position at a publishing concern --Information Access Company-- and then went back to another law school at the U of MN. Where I worked my 2nd and 3rd year of law school and then worked a while longer at the U of MN Law Library.

Most of my law school training was in business matters which is common at all law schools.

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2233252)
WOW! You really do have no clue how businesses work. It is and always has been about the money. That's why people take the risks they do in business, to make money. From just this post it's obvious that you have never owned a business or were responsible for a P&L sheet for a business. So, making a profit for any business not only is relevant to the discussion, but it is also the ONLY THING relevant to the discussion. As a current small business owner and past Project Manager for multi-million-dollar construction projects where I was held accountable for the P&L of the projects, I can tell you from firsthand experience you watch every penny spent and every dollar in costs saved, or you die.

As for your first question, a) it's none of your business b) the question is irrelevant as they are the ones at risk not you and c) since you opened this door by asking, how much money do you need? Since you want to pass judgement on their tax return perhaps it's time the court of public opinion passes judgement on how much wealth you have amassed in your lifetime and should determine how to relieve you of some of it, just as you stand in judgement of relieving the developer of theirs.

I'm neither for nor against the developer in their decisions, they have to do what they feel is best for themselves, just as I must make decisions for my company. Sometimes this means making investments and sacrifices for the long-term benefit, sometimes it means making hard or unpopular decisions, in either case the long-term viability of the business is the driving motive.


Stu from NYC 07-08-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2233261)
The Villages is the business. The movie theaters are a selling point made by that business to get people to buy homes or stay here in the Villages.

A good deal of our neighbors have moved or are in the process of moving out of the Villages. Their main reason for moving is to help family members.

Again. READ the Petition.

If I move out of the Villages, the lying about the movie theaters by the developers is one of strongest reasons I would move as well as the heavy cyber bullying I have encountered over the years on many platforms by "Villagers".

I was a manager of a very small food service in the Reno and Washoe Valley area. Money was an important issue for the owners of this small business.

What drew the people to the Washoe Valley food service was the large swimming pool. What drew them to the ski lodge was the ski training program and the skiing. What drew them to the softball diamond was the softball being played by many amateur teams.

The developer should change the literature to one movie theater. Since it is his money at risk he gets to make decisions like this.

If this was my property would close it in a heartbeat based on demand for movie theaters.

Bogie Shooter 07-08-2023 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2233261)
The Villages is the business. The movie theaters are a selling point made by that business to get people to buy homes or stay here in the Villages.

A good deal of our neighbors have moved or are in the process of moving out of the Villages. Their main reason for moving is to help family members.

Again. READ the Petition.

If I move out of the Villages, the lying about the movie theaters by the developers is one of strongest reasons I would move as well as the heavy cyber bullying I have encountered over the years on many platforms by "Villagers".

I was a manager of a very small food service in the Reno and Washoe Valley area. Money was an important issue for the owners of this small business. I earned two BAs during the rest of the year from the U of Nevada, Reno.

What drew the people to the Washoe Valley food service was the large swimming pool. What drew them to the ski lodge was the ski training program and the skiing. What drew them to the softball diamond was the softball being played by many amateur teams. I was not a manager at the ski lodge food service as I had left for law school in 1982 for the BYU Law School but did not fit in there so came back. Got a MA in Librarianship at the U of Denver. Worked my way through library school. Then was in an entry position at a publishing concern --Information Access Company-- and then went back to another law school at the U of MN. Where I worked my 2nd and 3rd year of law school and then worked a while longer at the U of MN Law Library.

Well, that explains a lot of questions.
Cannot imagine why you would receive cyber bullying.🤷🏼

Taltarzac725 07-08-2023 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2233264)
The developer should change the literature to one movie theater. Since it is his money at risk he gets to make decisions like this.

If this was my property would close it in a heartbeat based on demand for movie theaters.

Now that would be the right thing to do.

Correct the literature.

Taltarzac725 07-08-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2233267)
Well, that explains a lot of questions.
Cannot imagine why you would receive cyber bullying.������������

It goes with the territory. Encountered an incredibly creative and nasty cyberbully on Findlaw in 2002 who never let up. It turned out he was the person I was travelling all over the Tampa Bay area to help with his criminal defense case. He was a white collar defendant. Tracked him down when I knew who he was and the police department person I talked to knew the person well. He was kind of a gadfly there. The person who called me thought it was kind of funny. Probably because they were looking at Findlaw and it took me years to figure out it was this guy. He was very two faced online. I think I saw the last of him just after I moved to the Villages in 2005. I stopped using Findlaw around 2006 and heard Talk Host talk about Talk of the Villages in July of 2007 at a Villages Computer Club meeting. Talk Host used to be a co-owner of Talk of the Villages or something like that.

He was business man who had defrauded someone allegedly. And they were trying to get him convicted for it.

Most of the other cyberbullies I have run into look like people of maybe 12 year old maturity.

Worldseries27 07-08-2023 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by taltarzac725 (Post 2233261)
the villages is the business. The movie theaters are a selling point made by that business to get people to buy homes or stay here in the villages.

A good deal of our neighbors have moved or are in the process of moving out of the villages. Their main reason for moving is to help family members.

Again. Read the petition.

If i move out of the villages, the lying about the movie theaters by the developers is one of strongest reasons i would move as well as the heavy cyber bullying i have encountered over the years on many platforms by "villagers".

I was a manager of a very small food service in the reno and washoe valley area. Money was an important issue for the owners of this small business. I earned two bas during the rest of the year from the u of nevada, reno.

What drew the people to the washoe valley food service was the large swimming pool. What drew them to the ski lodge was the ski training program and the skiing. What drew them to the softball diamond was the softball being played by many amateur teams. I was not a manager at the ski lodge food service as i had left for law school in 1982 for the byu law school but did not fit in there so came back. Got a ma in librarianship at the u of denver. Worked my way through library school. Then was in an entry position at a publishing concern --information access company-- and then went back to another law school at the u of mn. Where i worked my 2nd and 3rd year of law school and then worked a while longer at the u of mn law library.

Most of my law school training was in business matters which is common at all law schools.

agree with you. Cannot understand people defending what amounts to pennies for an entity that misleads potential buyers to this very day

dewilson58 07-08-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2233261)

If I move out of the Villages, the lying about the movie theaters by the developers is one of strongest reasons I would move as well as the heavy cyber bullying I have encountered over the years on many platforms by "Villagers".

1) Well, hope you don't move.

2) Technically, aren't there are three theaters..............but only one is operational.

3) You can only go to one theater at a time......so it ain't that painful (1 vs. 2 vs. 3) is it??

4) Cyber b's are every where, probably less in TV vs. other places.

Peace

Taltarzac725 07-08-2023 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2233276)
1) Well, hope you don't move.

2) Technically, aren't there are three theaters..............but only one is operational.

3) You can only go to one theater at a time......so it ain't that painful (1 vs. 2 vs. 3) is it??

4) Cyber b's are every where, probably less in TV vs. other places.

Peace

The Talk of the Villagers moderators keep things peaceful.

What I do not understand is that it would bring about a lot of good will if the developers had at least two movie theaters open. Good will is worth a huge amount of money.

Do think good business people know the importance of good will. And it is very hard to get back once gone.

dewilson58 07-08-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2233281)
The Talk of the Villagers moderators keep things peaceful. What I do not understand is that it would bring about a lot of good will if the developers had at least two movie theaters open. Good will is worth a huge amount of money. Do think good business people know the importance of good will. And it is very hard to get back once gone.

The family goes thru Pro's & Con's on a weekly basis.

With Mark's presentation regarding the theaters and the industry and getting movies and splitting the proceeds...............I'm happy TV has one theater (mostly since i can get there in my cart) and that the one & only is "in the middle" of TV.

TV has millions of dollars sitting idle (fixed cost), that tells me they weren't even able to cover their variable expenses and put an impactful amount towards the fixed costs.

The family understands goodwill. But if the petition is turned in with only 1% or 2% of the population signing it..............that will only confirm to the family they made a good decision to close two out of three.

:ho:


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