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Bonanza 03-01-2014 02:28 AM

The one on the left is Sam, and on the right, the terror Maggie Mae..


Absolutely adorable!

PaPaLarry 03-01-2014 06:22 AM

Time to call the "Dog Whisperer" for an opinion!!!!

Parker 03-01-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 837423)
Kathie -- you are 100% correct. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, the topic is beyond a simple opinion.

The majority of posters have agreed that these crowded events is not the place for dogs.
My original post was simply based on sound reasoning -- both for the dogs and the public at large.

My reasoning is based on logic and experience. I have had cats and dogs for over 50 years.
In years past, I worked in a kennel, for a vet and for a dog trainer.
I have shown some of my dogs in dog shows and have taken some of my dogs to obedience training.

While all dogs should be socialized outside among people and other dogs,
a mobbed event is not the place.
The only dog who should be taken everywhere is a service dog.
Those individuals who bring their dog are, very simply,
selfish and thinking about themself and not their "beloved" pet.
Trust me -- the dog doesn't want to be there among the crowd.


Especially with those long retractable leashes. How people love to extend it to the fullest for the wandering pleasure of their dogs, and no thought at all for the folks who must work around it. Why not use a short leash for these crowded events?

bonrich 03-01-2014 07:24 AM

We do know that on a really hot day the asphalt can get very hot and uncomfortable to walk on with bare feet. So, think about your pet walking on that hot asphalt and how uncomfortable and maybe painful it could be on the bottom of their paws. Maybe that is why you see some of them "prancing" as they walk with the owner.

Bobcuse 03-01-2014 10:55 AM

I am a dog owner and agree with the 99% who do NOT think dogs should be at these crowded events so I won't bother posting my feelings here.

rubicon 03-01-2014 11:36 AM

I wish I had a dollar for every post I have read on TOTV concerning this topic. The going back and forth is helpful to at least understanding how people feel. However, this is always going to be a topic of opinion only . The only way for it to be addressed is that the organization sponsoring such events has to make clear if there is a dog restriction policy.
Unless it is posted with the advertised news event I assume dogs are allowed and given the crowding this time of year will not participate.
Dog bite claims and attacks are more numerous then people realize and can create some very serious physical and psychological damages

gerryann 03-01-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 837629)
I The only way for it to be addressed is that the organization sponsoring such events has to make clear if there is a dog restriction policy

I guess until this happens...you should stay away from these events. Problem solved......

lpkshop 03-01-2014 01:33 PM

This morning at the farmers market a man had this big dog and he was sniffing all the food! UGH! Gross

Halle 03-01-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lpkshop (Post 837694)
This morning at the farmers market a man had this big dog and he was sniffing all the food! UGH! Gross



Yep I saw that at one of the fruit and vegetable stands. Yes I know to wash my fruits and vegetables but still feel it is wrong to let a dog sniff the food.
I have seen people doing the same thing or worse. Like tasting and smelling food on the buffet line so they can decide if they want some instead of putting some on their plate and trying it at their table. I stopped eating at buffets a very long time ago and I seldom eat out. Thinking about what might have been done to the food makes me
barf

missypie 03-01-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Halle (Post 837740)
Yep I saw that at one of the fruit and vegetable stands. Yes I know to wash my fruits and vegetables but still feel it is wrong to let a dog sniff the food.
I have seen people doing the same thing or worse. Like tasting and smelling food on the buffet line so they can decide if they want some instead of putting some on their plate and trying it at their table. I stopped eating at buffets a very long time ago and I seldom eat out. Thinking about what might have been done to the food makes me
barf

I go out very little for that reason exactly

D&Lsunfun 03-01-2014 04:16 PM

I have never seen so many dogs in so many public and food venues. Dogs in grocery carts sitting where I am going to place groceries, dogs in shopping carts at the department stores, in the same cart I am going to place my new purchases. Why do people bring their dogs to a eating area and have the dogs on the floor or sitting on a seat next to them, while eating, the same table I am suppose to sit and eat. Dogs drinking from drinking fountains at the mail stations. Yes, I saw it with my eyes! At the neighborhood pool a person brings her dog or dogs in a large beach bag while she swims or sits on a chair. Just to have her dogs near her, advice stay at home with them. As said before, no one loves your dog like you do.
This community is "going to the dogs". Really!!

TheVillageChicken 03-01-2014 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by D&Lsunfun (Post 837791)
I have never seen so many dogs in so many public and food venues. Dogs in grocery carts sitting where I am going to place groceries, dogs in shopping carts at the department stores, in the same cart I am going to place my new purchases. Why do people bring their dogs to a eating area and have the dogs on the floor or sitting on a seat next to them, while eating, the same table I am suppose to sit and eat. Dogs drinking from drinking fountains at the mail stations. Yes, I saw it with my eyes! At the neighborhood pool a person brings her dog or dogs in a large beach bag while she swims or sits on a chair. Just to have her dogs near her, advice stay at home with them. As said before, no one loves your dog like you do.
This community is "going to the dogs". Really!!

As I have stated in previous posts, I have determined that dogs are actually alien beings from other solar systems and that their "owners" are brainwashed abductees utilized purely as life support systems in a bizarre host/parasite relationship. That leg humping thing is their way of marking potential "hosts" for their Friends Their dangly bits and behinds secrete a chemical that makes humans attribute childlike human qualities to them. The critters transfer this chemical to humans by licking themselves then licking the humans either on the lips, nose, or eyes. Once afflicted the human host is doomed to a live of submissiveness to the alpha alien.

rubicon 03-01-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 837637)
I guess until this happens...you should stay away from these events. Problem solved......

Hi gerryann: It would appear that the following the above-referenced post five posters have expressed concern about the state of health risk posed by dogs. It has reinforced my decision to stay away from such events.

I did not intend to hurt anyone's feelings or upset them but based on your comments, I did or its just that for some reason you just don't like how I say things because of all the posts here you struck at mine. Perhaps its just my username? I will try harder at being sensitive to others and more subtle

ilovetv 03-01-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 837833)
Hi gerryann: It would appear that the following the above-referenced post five posters have expressed concern about the state of health risk posed by dogs. It has reinforced my decision to stay away from such events.

I did not intend to hurt anyone's feelings or upset them but based on your comments, I did or its just that for some reason you just don't like how I say things because of all the posts here you struck at mine. Perhaps its just my username? I will try harder at being sensitive to others and more subtle

I think there are many of us here who are painfully conscious of the fact that, as the value of human life is quickly being devalued and circles the drain, the value of dog life is being made sacred and exalted.

It's more of the gross national product of a godless society.

shcisamax 03-01-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 837852)
I think there are many of us here who are painfully conscious of the fact that, as the value of human life is quickly being devalued and circles the drain, the value of dog life is being made sacred and exalted.

It's more of the gross national product of a godless society.

Given the tremendous failure of humans as a "humane" species, I think an indication of a highly evolved human being is to recognize that other species are not lesser than humans...just different...in fact, superior in many attributes...loyalty being just one.

Abster 03-01-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lpkshop (Post 837694)
This morning at the farmers market a man had this big dog and he was sniffing all the food! UGH! Gross

This morning at the farmers market a man had his wife sniffing all the food! UGH! Gross! I guess they didn't know any better either.

ilovetv 03-01-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 837881)
Given the tremendous failure of humans as a "humane" species, I think an indication of a highly evolved human being is to recognize that other species are not lesser than humans...just different...in fact, superior in many attributes...loyalty being just one.

And this is the difference:

"....a highly evolved human being" indicates human life evolved from animal life such as apes.

By contrast, many of us of Judeo-Christian belief believe this about human and animal life:

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God created mankind in his image;
in the image of God he created them;

male and female* he created them.
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God blessed them and God said to them: Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it.* Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the living things that crawl on the earth.

Genesis_1
There is a natural order of things, and it is: Human life before animals, and God before humans, self, and animals.

Dani Forbes 03-03-2014 12:52 PM

I would like to add, that putting them in strollers and coming to these events are just as annoying. Dogs are meant to walk - not be strollered. They should not be allowed to be in stores or restaurants. They are animals - yes it may be your baby, but it is not mine

OBXNana 03-03-2014 02:02 PM

We had a baby shower in OUR home on Saturday. We have 2 rescue labs (the foster has been adopted) and we love our dogs. We also recognize the majority of the population are not dog lovers. Our pregnant daughter in law being one of the majority. Our pups went to Doggie Day Care for the duration of the shower. It was a courtesy for our guests and avoided having less than a perfect day for the mother to be carrying her first child.

In my mind, there are dog parks for dogs. There are places to walk man's (and woman's) best friend without taking them to areas there may be people that don't love your dog as much as you do.

YouNeverKnow 03-03-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 837099)
I'm going to jump in and add the Farmer's Market to this as well. I've nearly tripped over dogs or their leashes when not expecting that in my path. I've seen the owners stopped and chatting with friends while "poochie" is pulling (this is with the retractable leashes) the other way. I'm NOT a pet-hater! Loved my pets when we had them, love my friend's pets too (now) but think there's a time and place to take them out.

I also have to jump in about pets at the Farmers Market in Brownwood. We saw a woman with a dog on a leash stop and actually let her dog lift his leg and pee on the plants that were in pots on the cement that a vendor was selling! She just stood there and let him finish as a big puddle ran out of the pot and onto the cement. She then just walked away with a big smile on her face.
You can't fix stupid!

YouNeverKnow 03-03-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Abster (Post 837901)
This morning at the farmers market a man had his wife sniffing all the food! UGH! Gross! I guess they didn't know any better either.

Was his wife on a leash? :a040:

whybeglum 03-04-2014 10:38 PM

You All will just love my take on this and it is just for fun.. My take on the times I have been to an event at the squares is this " Way, way too many mammals on two legs crowded in this small space.... " And yes I do feel badly for the pups. But the thing that has me thinking about buying here in the villages is this: WAY WAY WAY too many humans per square mile. And yes I have a dog and he loves any human event.

Yosemite 03-09-2014 04:40 PM

I think you all are barking up the wrong tree. The problem with having dogs, or strollers, or any other attachment, is the fact that the events are so poorly presented. We should be annoyed with the people who hold/organize these events and do not present them in the proper way or at a proper venue. The Art and Craft fair was a perfect example. Since when are Solar Tubes and AAA considered arts and crafts products. The vendors let anyone be in their "shows" because they want the money for the display space. And having a regular street hold booths on both sides PLUS more booths down the middle of the street cuts the walking path ridiculously thin. Pets weren't the only impediment; I'm sure others were hit by wheel chairs and walkers. Well, we certainly can't ban them! So let's start looking at the real cause of the problem: the event organizer. A craft fair should be for art and crafts. Period. And the walking paths at these events should be wide enough so that everyone can attend. If Sumpter Square is too small, which it will be the way they let anyone and everyone have a display, then move the event to the polo grounds. You think it's bad now, wait till Brownwood is sold out and Fruitland adds another few thousand homes.

Bonny 03-09-2014 09:43 PM

I like having a little of everything !!

CFrance 03-09-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ccass-burke-va (Post 842529)
I think you all are barking up the wrong tree. The problem with having dogs, or strollers, or any other attachment, is the fact that the events are so poorly presented. We should be annoyed with the people who hold/organize these events and do not present them in the proper way or at a proper venue. The Art and Craft fair was a perfect example. Since when are Solar Tubes and AAA considered arts and crafts products. The vendors let anyone be in their "shows" because they want the money for the display space. And having a regular street hold booths on both sides PLUS more booths down the middle of the street cuts the walking path ridiculously thin. Pets weren't the only impediment; I'm sure others were hit by wheel chairs and walkers. Well, we certainly can't ban them! So let's start looking at the real cause of the problem: the event organizer. A craft fair should be for art and crafts. Period. And the walking paths at these events should be wide enough so that everyone can attend. If Sumpter Square is too small, which it will be the way they let anyone and everyone have a display, then move the event to the polo grounds. You think it's bad now, wait till Brownwood is sold out and Fruitland adds another few thousand homes.

I agree with you. I don't go to those events because of the crowds, but what you are describing sounds more like a flea market or home show than a craft fair. AAA at a craft fair? That's just wrong!

applesoffh 03-10-2014 08:58 AM

I love dogs, and I was a dog owner for years. I knew enough not to bring Freeway to street fairs, crowded neighborhood events, etc. No matter how good your dog is, you just don't know how a dog will react to certain situations. As an aside, I had a total knee replacement 6 months ago. Now that I'm up and around, I love going to the Farmers Market in Brownwood; however, I am very aware of the dogs around me, some of which are walked on "long" leashes, as I'm terrified of tripping and falling, just as I am of small children left to run around so their parents can browse. Dog owners think everyone should love their pups as much as they do. It's not the love, it's the uncertainty, so much so that I avoid most of the street fairs and exhibits here in TV. Too many dogs and unfettered tots.

Jbirds99 03-10-2014 09:42 AM

Really your dog likes the square at certain times???

yabbadu 03-10-2014 09:47 AM

Did your dogs tell you to take them to the square because they really enjoy it there?

maureenod 03-10-2014 10:15 AM

I also was at the craft fair and saw 2 dogs cock their legs and pee on tents. No place for dogs.


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