:agree::agree:Great post, Beady. I agree, love the dogs, not sure about idiot owners.

[QUOTE=dillywho;200783]...I know they don't take them to the doctors office, church, grocery store, restaurants, etc. QUOTE]

Ah, grasshopper, you are mistaken...

I have seen pets in all but church. Also in many retail businesses. I think there are health codes restricting animals (other than service animals) in restaurants and grocery stores. In my younger days I worked retail and restaurants and was amazed at what people allowed their pets to do in those business. Also, how beligerent many got when asked to please remove their pets. I believe that the business may have some liability if a patrons pet harms another customer. And those that have the "small" pets that they hold in their arms believe they are exempt from the rule.

I am a pet lover myself. But I think there are times and places for pets. There should be few restrictions in public places. But in non-public places pets should be restricted. Sorry, those who say that a grocery store (retail store, doctor's office, etc...) is "public". It is not.

And, believe it or not, some people are AFRAID of animals (gasp). My father, big, strong manly man was attacked by a dog at a young age and nearly lost sight in one eye. He is a man that fears little, but get him in an enclosed space with a dog and he is a basket case.

I agree....
 

Nicely put Musicman...:beer3:

I agree 100%

I have heard reports from a few members of a local church that there is a member of the church who brings his dog to church. He parks in a space reserved for visitors, even tho he has been attending regularly for some time. Then he seats his small dog next to him during the service. Complaints to the ministry have been met with the remark that they would prefer to have him attend church rather that lose him by banning his dog. Unbelievable but true. I am a dog lover, and have had many great dogs in my lifetime, but they don't belong in public buildings, offices, restaurants, or within the confines of TV town squares.

Well Said
 

Couldn't have said it better myself. When will Pet Owners understand that many do not feel the same as they do. I despise going to public places to be barked at, have my leg smelled and licked, or to be jumped on by a dog whose owner thinks that such actions are cute. Have no problem with you loving your pets as long as you keep them out of public places. Smother them with love in your own home, not on the Town Square.

Does anyone know where I can cast my vote to support this rumored ban of Pets in Town Squares?

I always feel so sad when I read these kinds of threads. I am a person who does not have a dog but likes them very much.

I suppose I should try to understand those who dislike dogs very much.

At this point, I seem to feel more comfortable with people who like dogs.

But I have a lot to learn. I am young. I won't be 70 until next month.

It amazes me how we give our pets human characteristics. I am guilty of this…as are many pet lovers. Every morning my 100 lb German shepherd “Jazzy” sits by my side and watches me drink my coffee. I talk she listens and never disagree with anything I say. Occasionally, she will go sit by the window and guard the door ensuring that no squirrels or Landscapers get near our house. Then when she is absolutely sure that all is secured she comes back and sits next to me again. Dogs are truly amazing animals….they give us unconditional love and true friendship. Is it any wonder that we want them by us as much as possible? However, she knows that there are certain buildings and places she just can’t go and she understands.

And, I believe that we can learn some really wonderful things from our dogs. They are nonjudgemental and love you no matter what you look like , no matter what your hang ups. Its difficult for humans to feel unconditional love and this is something I admire so much in our canine friends. Spell dog backwards, I dont believe that it is just a coincidence.

If you want to know who really loves you, put your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car for an hour, then open the trunk and see which one is glad to see you.......(it's just a joke)....GN

Graciegirl,

I think (know) you are on to something here. "I seem to feel more comfortable with people who like dogs". Seems as if those people are very understanding, charitable and giving.

Just my thoughts from all the people who have been and are in my life.

aj

Perhaps a compromise could be met wherein dogs are requested not to go to the squares during the busy times. I'm sure they get their toes stepped on quite a bit too. It's just common sense to leave them home when the crowds are there. And if you know you have an aggressive animal, don't take them at all. :smiley:

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I also agree with joanne that shy and aggressive animals shouldn't be taken to the Town Squares. And that dog owners should be very respectful of others.

However I see no reason why conscientious dog owners should be banned from taking their dogs to the Town Squares. I've seen many people get enjoyment from patting the dogs. They walk away with a smile on their face.
And that's a good thing.

Fumar Will Like This
 

I didn't go back through & read all the posts. As a member of the Responsible Dog Owner Group 2 (RDOG2) it has been recommended that owners NOT bring their pets to the squares. Sorry, you'll have to witness Teddy in action at the dog park or walking in our hood.

Such excellent advice. Now if we could get people who have aggressive or grouchy spouses (or significant others) to leave them home then we wouldn't have as many complaints about our beloved pets. :boxing2:

Yes, she WAS an idiot and her rudeness and lack of gratefulness in someone trying to "help" is maddening. I cannot tolerate rude people. A leash for your dog is a protection for other people not to fall over it and furthermore, I don't want some dog sniffing my privates in public either. Majorly rude if that dog is NOT on a leash!

Oh man what a lead in, but I just refuse to ask the question. I'm smarter than that!:duck:

I dont like that in private or public.. but to each his own..

Remember they were removed because of dumb people !!!!

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I love seeing the different breeds of dogs at the square and, Barefoot, you're right, I do get enjoyment from talking to dog owners and also from petting the dogs (with first getting the owner's permission). At a craft show in Pittsburgh, I enjoyed talking to a woman who had a wolf with her on a leash, of course. The wolf was a rescue animal. She was one of the vendors at the show. If a determination is made not to have animals at the squares, the vendors will be affected by it too (since some of them travel the country to go to these shows.) But I really hope that a "total" ban doesn't happen. It would be a shame!

Pets at the town squares
 

I love my pets and everybody elses pets but I agree that there should be a line drawn. When I go to the town squares and see the doggies there they look like if they could talk they would say "Take me home". It is loud and crowded. I think they would be more comfortable asleep at home waiting for their owner to come home. I take my dogs for rides and walks and they love that. Don't forget doggie do run. I just think town square is my time. I would be too busy worrying about my dogs to dance and visit with people. Also I have seen small children run up to dogs and grab them before anyone can do anything. You never know when a dog will bite especially when startled. I love animals. I am a volunteer at the humane society. I think everything has its place and doggie parks are best for visiting with other pets and the owners. I would totally understand if a regulation was passed about animals in the town squares.

Use common sense is what it boils down to. We have a Bichon and a teacup Chihuahua that love to go for rides and socialize. This keeps them friendly and well adjusted.
We never take them to a square when there is any kind of event going on and it is crowded. Most times we will park our golfcart and stay in it with them and listen to the music. People come to us and ask about them and if they can pet them etc.
Once a week our so we will take them for a walk at the boardwalk and look at the turtles and fish and stay maybe 15-20 minutes.
We keep ours on a very short leash and I usually carry "Bambi", our teacup.
Too many times I have seen people bring dogs and not have water for them or have them on too long of a leash.
There are many responsible owners that use good sense but on the other hand there are some real "boneheads" that do not.:duck:
p.s If you take a dog somewhere, bring a bag and clean up any mess!:boxing2:

Trouble is that all laws are passed because common sense is not definable. People differ about what common sense is. So, the authorities step in and draw the line. In this case, banning all dogs at the squares seems to be the most sensible thing to do.

TH, why is banning ALL dogs the most sensible thing to do?

Huh? Where did that come from? :confused:

Nope. I don't think so, TH.

Who is going to enforce a banning? And how? What? Up against the wall? Frisked for carrying dog biscuits without a permit? Fines? A day in court? A night at the pound? Not to mention a whole lot of angry Villagers with pitchforks and torches. I can't see it happening,TH. It does not make sense.

And if a banning were to be posted, but not enforced, couldn't that drag TV into the liability line-up if an incident occurred that resulted in a lawsuit? (I don't know the legal answer to that one, but I would think it would put TV on the legal responsibility radar. Maybe not. Don't know. Just a thought.)

When I am there, my dog will not be at the square. But that does not mean that I would run around trying to make everybody else's dog go home.

I think maybe when the tale starts wagging the dog on this subject, it is possible that the rumors could go out there about an impending banning and that could result in a little discussion, at least, and maybe a couple of people might get a clue to shorten the leash. Not everybody, of course. That never happens. But a banning? That would just cause a bigger problem.

Now, what I really need to know is whether or not dogs are allowed to use floats in the pools.

Boomer

While I'm up here reading all these posts about peoples dogs, I did a little research. This is what I found. A TOTV'er wrote a post about his mother-in-laws ruptured appendix. It garnered about 22 replies for her to get well. When another TOTV'er posted about her sick dog, it generated over 45 replies to get well. If you think I'm exaggerating look them up and do the math. Could it be that some people hold animals in higher regard than humans on this site. One of them even asked what dog spelled backwards is? I would suggest anyone trying to put any kind of restraint on dog owners habits good or bad think again..

Yeah Boomer!
 

I am sooooooooo with you on this one! I love seeing the dogs in the square! Yes, of course, some people really don't know how to act with them... but, boy, seeing a happy, tail-waggin' pup, sure makes me smile! :laugh:

Following that logic, banning young children from the dance floors at the Town Squares would also be the sensible thing to do. Some of them run around irresponsibly without supervision and are a hazard to older people trying to dance.

However, in my humble opinion, common sense is realizing the town squares are public areas and that adults, dogs and young children should all be welcome. And all should be polite and respectful of others.

And Days2go needs to take a happy pill.

Good point. Maybe we're addressing these problems from the wrong angle. The banning from the squares should be directed at the parents, grand parents, etc. that bring the children and dogs to the squares and allow them to run wild. If you can't control your children and dogs then stay home with them instead of inflicting them upon the public. Same for people who allow under age children to drive golf carts or who don't know how to properly navigate the roundabouts. Oops! - A couple more subjects that have been beaten to death. Face it: there are going to be some people that are going to do things their way regardless of rules, laws or public opinion. Try to politely tell someone that their 7 year old grand son shouldn't be driving a golf cart and listen to their response. And we wonder how those little tykes learn all that filthy language. :22yikes:

Don't worry about any of these meaningless peccadilloes. Whether it be yappy dogs with diarrhea on the squares, obnoxious brats running wild and illegally driving golf carts, pig-headed drivers refusing to drive the roundabouts correctly, or bathers using non-approved flotation devices in the various pools, all these issues of contention will soon be matters of the past. Once the peoples of the world adopt the conciliatory attitude for which our president was justifiably awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace, all will be perfect.


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I thought I read in the paper a while back that Codys roadhouse will be pet friendly on the outside..........................
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You may see grand chilren "running wild" in the town square, but I will venture to sa
 

you will NEVER see a dog "running wild" in a town square. Most dog owners are significantly more responsible than parents and grand parents.

Some need to understand that that when the nest is empty and we are up in years our dogs provide a significant companion ship. The are family as much as a spouse, a child or grand child. The discussion of closing squares to select members of other's family is sorta narrow minded and selfish.

I would also bet that none who have an issue, real or otherwise. have ever been bothered by a dog in the town square.

Ya see if we are going to start purifying the requirements for being allowed in a town square we need to start contemplating the loud, the boistrous, the drunks, the cigarette smokers, and what ever else fits the grumpies list to exclude.

If you can tolerate the array of the two legged undesirables, dogs are far and away more tolerable.

Of course we are responsible dog owners who know their dog is better behaved than many, MANY humans of all sizes and ages.

btk

If only...
 

Wonderful! Yes, you're right! I think President Obama is bringing that feeling to the world. If it was your intent to make fun of this commercial (because I know your views are not the same in Political) I will point out (as and old advertising person) this won an incredible amount of awards around the world. Nice to see it and reminisce.

Oh Muncle, you tickled my funnybone today! :D

I'd like to add "don't sweat the small stuff" to your advice of not worrying about the meaningless peccadilloes. Life is WAY too short to let all of this bother us. Can't we just all get along? :shrug:

P.S. Muncle, Unfortunately I don't think any amount of teaching will help me with my singing.;)

I LOVE this!!!!!!!!!! Oh, I just love this kind of humor Muncle! I was ready to put up my peace sign and smoke a coke. :a040:

Dogs at Cody's Roadhouse
 

Wouldn't stay away from Codys just because of a bunch of Dogs outside the front door (which would actually be enough to keep me away) but also because it's kind of a yukky place with mediocre food and mostly stale peanuts..

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This seems like a stretch!

BTK, I totally agree that dogs are part of the family. My spouse is not yet retired. When he isn't in TV, my dogs are my family. And they offer me wonderful companionship and unconditional love.

But only those who have been privileged to have that special relationship with a dog will agree with your comment.